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Nickolaidas
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Dude seriously, I run First Descendant and I can't believe how beautiful all the characters there are - male and female. It's almost too much after being bombarded with the Mary Janes of SM2 and the Avoweds and the Intergalactics. It's like a fucking palette cleanser.1) Bro, almost no games gonna call themselfs woke, its bad for business, players/ppl recognise those symptomes as wokeness of the game.
2) Hoe behaviour is sexual promiscuity but not only that, all kinds of almost naked photos on insta is hoe behaviour too, or posting almost naked vids on tik tok doing stupid dances, going to pubs and clubs, dressing provocatively, all for male attention.
3) When it comes to female characters, suddenly all white knights/SJW's and feminist want them to be covered and ugly as much as possible, thats coz they arent real women, but they appeal to male audience, for the same reason us-gamers want female characters in game to not be ugly and to wear provocative/sexy clothes- coz they are ez on the eyes, and they appeal to us/please us, they arent real ppl/ aka sluts, just imaginary game characters, that is why its perfectly fine.
4) From ur reply i see u didnt ask what wokeism is, but u tried to get a gatcha instead, tuff luck 4u
ToughestSoul
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Yeah, there is definitely something about the 2008 finanical crisis.
Something broke back then and never really recovered
PeteBull
Member
We saw back in Detroit:Become Human even 1,8tf mashine, aka ps4 is perfectly capable of having beatiful female characters already:
Im thinking maybe coz game was about androids they decided its ok to make them femine, playful and beautiful, i mean what guy would want to have a woman who is argumentative ugly bitch if he had different option
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Nickolaidas
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Wokeness is all about presenting degeneracy as normalcy and normalcy as degeneracy.
Nuclear family? Fuck that, have all families either be dysfunctional or have the parents be gay.
Beautiful characters? Fuck that, make them as plain and unattractive as possible and brainwash people into perceiving that as 'beautiful'.
Masculinity is heroic? Fuck that, masculinity is demonic, toxic, evil and oppressive.
Meritocracy promotes reward after hard work? Fuck that, you are entitled to success simply because you perceive yourself to have been slighted since birth, thus you are owed everything simply for existing.
Religion brings inner peace? Fuck that, the only thing you need to believe in is globalization and communism.
Wokeness is all about convincing you that you are entitled to success simply for being lazy, ugly, rude, obnoxious and degenerate, while anyone who tells you that you must work for success is a tyrant who needs to be killed.
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PeteBull
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Add to that whole gender ideology and them not being able to describe what is a woman w/o using word woman or/and thinking 2 males having sex isnt gay just coz one of the males decided to think of himself as a woman
Woke is conditioning the the minds of individuals or creating injustice scenario were there really no injustice really happening. Victim mode.
Boss Man
Member
Important point.
One example of this that many people aren’t aware of is that black people did not poll favorably at all for “defund the police.” That was entirely white progressives acting on their behalf, saviors that they are. My (very intelligent) white progressive friend supported it. He’s lived in gated communities his entire life.
81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Despite Protests: Poll
A Gallup poll found that 61 percent of Black Americans said they would like police to spend the same amount of time in their community, while 20 percent answered that they'd like to see more police.
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semiconscious
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'let's switch the conversation back from class (big no-no) to identity'. very well done. thanks!...It all started in 2011, after Occupy Wall Street.
After the 2008 crisis and the American government helping the banks to save themselves, while millions were left unemployed, people revolted and began protesting against the bankers.
Then, mysteriously, the media started introducing diversity issues in a way that divided people and thus, the Occupy Wall Street movement was dismantled.
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PeteBull
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Thats coz a lot of black ppl live in poor and dangerous hoods, they know very well less police means more crime, only rich liberals can be so delusional in thinking defunding the police would be of any good coz they simply live in rich, safe and very restricted areas- no gangbanging or drugdealing on every corner there, they simply dont realise how good they have...Important point.
One example of this that many people aren’t aware of is that black people did not poll favorably at all for “defund the police.” That was entirely white progressives acting on their behalf, saviors that they are.
81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Despite Protests: Poll
A Gallup poll found that 61 percent of Black Americans said they would like police to spend the same amount of time in their community, while 20 percent answered that they'd like to see more police.
Its like those woke celebs pretending to care about ecology while flying private jets all the time and living in crazy big mansions- pure hypocricy.
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Coco is like an 8 year old man, that's why no one complained, CTR was the same generation and that had "sexy" BandicootsNaughty Dog is such an interesting case. They changed VERY early on. Way sooner than many assume. Back in old 1992, they saw fit to include a topless woman as part of their dev credit in Rings of Power (via a code). Later, in 96, you've got Crash Bandicoot where Crash's girlfriend Tawna has a very exaggerated female form. And then, in just one year, we get the complete removal of Tawna's existence. The next female Bandicoot, now a sister instead of a girlfriend, is Coco who seems to be the exact opposite of Tawna. I don't remember any real backlash to this. It was a different time. Devs could make such choices without being called out for being "woke," and were allowed to simply change their priorities as they saw fit.
tkscz
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Not to mention Jak and DaxterCoco is like an 8 year old man, that's why no one complained, CTR was the same generation and that had "sexy" Bandicoots
This stuff started when it started in a lot of nerd media, 2014.
A bunch of activist got jobs in these companies then began only hiring other activist and telling board members that "majority of gamers were activist minded, just look at California, Oregon and Washington for example and don't look anywhere else."
Took nearly 10 years for companies to notice it lost them money in the long run and not gained them any.
rubik's dude
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Naughty Dog is such an interesting case. They changed VERY early on. Way sooner than many assume. Back in old 1992, they saw fit to include a topless woman as part of their dev credit in Rings of Power (via a code). Later, in 96, you've got Crash Bandicoot where Crash's girlfriend Tawna has a very exaggerated female form. And then, in just one year, we get the complete removal of Tawna's existence. The next female Bandicoot, now a sister instead of a girlfriend, is Coco who seems to be the exact opposite of Tawna. I don't remember any real backlash to this. It was a different time. Devs could make such choices without being called out for being "woke," and were allowed to simply change their priorities as they saw fit.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
First half of the 2010s. I was a lurker then, but around 2014 is when you'd really see the discourse on GAF steer towards the absolute lunacy that culminated in 2017. After Trump's election, wokeness really became a matter of survival for a lot of people.
I wasn't too worried the first time I read people debating unironically that the lack of black characters in Mario Kart was problematic. I should have been. MK8 released in 2014, so yeah, the real madness started around then.
I wasn't too worried the first time I read people debating unironically that the lack of black characters in Mario Kart was problematic. I should have been. MK8 released in 2014, so yeah, the real madness started around then.
Wolzard
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Important point.
One example of this that many people aren’t aware of is that black people did not poll favorably at all for “defund the police.” That was entirely white progressives acting on their behalf, saviors that they are. My (very intelligent) white progressive friend supported it. He’s lived in gated communities his entire life.
81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Despite Protests: Poll
A Gallup poll found that 61 percent of Black Americans said they would like police to spend the same amount of time in their community, while 20 percent answered that they'd like to see more police.
This reminds me of a video where a guy first interviews white liberals at a university, they claim that black people have difficulty getting ID, access to services and even access to the internet. Then he interviews black people based on these claims and they claim that it's all ignorance (with a slight racism).
Durin
Member
This, literally the exact year I remember seeing this stuff bubble up, and the frequency only increased meaning games in development were already starting to be influenced then.
No BBC=Anger
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It all started in 2011, after Occupy Wall Street.
After the 2008 crisis and the American government helping the banks to save themselves, while millions were left unemployed, people revolted and began protesting against the bankers.
Then, mysteriously, the media started introducing diversity issues in a way that divided people and thus, the Occupy Wall Street movement was dismantled.
This about sums it up for me.
Hector Hall
Neo Member
In my opinion, Woke is an aggregate word we use to summarize some identity politics and liberal narrative, but it's not a totally homogeneous thing.
There are several groups of feminists confronted and battling it out, and some of the identities start to Duke it out because of perceived rivalry in privileges they seek for themselves.
Yes, there are some usually common things like totally hating white men, occidental civilization and historic legacy, or pretending to deny biology itself for a power illusion, but it's not always for the same reasons or under the same theoric implications.
Si, it's somewhat difficult to really define what's Woke, specially as the word has evolved and other sub groups have adhered to it Last years, as anti fatphobic, trans movement, non binary and all kind of other "identities". We could resume it's a ideology based on collective identities instead of individual ones, victimist because historic deeds they sometimes deeply alter or don't understand, that asks for rights they mostly have but try to implement privileges to protect those, and that has transferred some of the ideology and rethoric of Marxism and post Marxists as Gramsci about the state being the key to educate and coerce everyone on the "right way" through estate education and an hegemonic social narrative that permeates everything.
There are several groups of feminists confronted and battling it out, and some of the identities start to Duke it out because of perceived rivalry in privileges they seek for themselves.
Yes, there are some usually common things like totally hating white men, occidental civilization and historic legacy, or pretending to deny biology itself for a power illusion, but it's not always for the same reasons or under the same theoric implications.
Si, it's somewhat difficult to really define what's Woke, specially as the word has evolved and other sub groups have adhered to it Last years, as anti fatphobic, trans movement, non binary and all kind of other "identities". We could resume it's a ideology based on collective identities instead of individual ones, victimist because historic deeds they sometimes deeply alter or don't understand, that asks for rights they mostly have but try to implement privileges to protect those, and that has transferred some of the ideology and rethoric of Marxism and post Marxists as Gramsci about the state being the key to educate and coerce everyone on the "right way" through estate education and an hegemonic social narrative that permeates everything.
Toons
Member
Imagine if the Metroid reveal happened today.
Or if shiek one shots link and its revealed to be zelda
Thered be a 1k post topic about it
DZx
Neo Member
As a former liberal I say It's not liberalism or leftism but late-stage leftism aka woke. Woke used to be about something else for blacks and about injustice, but the label is now just for the mutated form of late-stage leftism for redditors and woke cucks. Think adding Weimar Germany degeneracy with some Marxism and anti-Conservative ideology and revenge politics, add in cringe and even illogical views in many parts too. It's a new form of far left for this century.
Developers and companies forget most people aren't woke or that kind of far left. They're also adversarial to conservative fans over time, which is dumb because less money then when those guys quit. Most gamers were some sort of right wing. Been more woke flops than woke successes, they misjudged what their actual respective fanbase wants. Now you got lot of western gaming companies going bankrupt over time.
Wokies basically want to divorce anything conservative off, and also even later on regular liberalism. Half naked hot women is part of old liberal media, the wokies are neo-puritians, but are fine with half naked men, because they want you to be gay. Obama was always secretly mad everyone wasn't gay like himself. So "Heterosexuality bad, but homosexuality superior" is their logic.
I dunno why you bother with woketards, they are fucking deranged. Of all political ideologies i know about, woke is the most illogical one.
Developers and companies forget most people aren't woke or that kind of far left. They're also adversarial to conservative fans over time, which is dumb because less money then when those guys quit. Most gamers were some sort of right wing. Been more woke flops than woke successes, they misjudged what their actual respective fanbase wants. Now you got lot of western gaming companies going bankrupt over time.
Wokies basically want to divorce anything conservative off, and also even later on regular liberalism. Half naked hot women is part of old liberal media, the wokies are neo-puritians, but are fine with half naked men, because they want you to be gay. Obama was always secretly mad everyone wasn't gay like himself. So "Heterosexuality bad, but homosexuality superior" is their logic.
I dunno why you bother with woketards, they are fucking deranged. Of all political ideologies i know about, woke is the most illogical one.
snapdragon
Member
someone is going to take advantage of these masses of young dudes once shit truly hit the fan and I hope they use them for good
taizuke
Member
Was about to say... lol
snapdragon
Member
The french and Southern Germans played a much bigger role in the creation of "woke" ideologies than the Americans did, I do not want us being blamed for that garbage when it comes crashing down
Punished Miku
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It was already existing and online. But it was definitely convenient to use to crush economic class focused liberals like Bernie Sanders and prop up corporate servants like Hillary and Kamala while rainbow-washing corporate America. Great point. Corporations pushed all the big money DEI training BS. A huge distraction and divide and conquer tactic.It all started in 2011, after Occupy Wall Street.
After the 2008 crisis and the American government helping the banks to save themselves, while millions were left unemployed, people revolted and began protesting against the bankers.
Then, mysteriously, the media started introducing diversity issues in a way that divided people and thus, the Occupy Wall Street movement was dismantled.
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rubik's dude
Member
Turned the friggin video game characters gay.I honestly think it started back in 1986 with Metroid and Samus.
Women bounty hunters in my game?? What is this?? No wonder Naughty Dog is now copying it!
Yoda
Member
Mid 2010s.
I think Mass Effect Andromeda is a really good canary. It had a tinge of what we dub "wokeness" in the dialogue, funky looking characters, etc... But more importantly it was done on a successful, existing franchise where that certainly wasn't the case for the prior games. It came out dead center in the middle of the decade, but said design decisions would've been made a few years before the release, thus it was already a potent force within large game studios much earlier in the decade than there'll be direct evidence for.
Given how long it takes to make games, I suspect we still have more heavy woke stuff in the pipeline, but I suspect most stuff being greenlit now (releasing in >= 2 years) will NOT follow the sweet baby inc route anymore.
I think Mass Effect Andromeda is a really good canary. It had a tinge of what we dub "wokeness" in the dialogue, funky looking characters, etc... But more importantly it was done on a successful, existing franchise where that certainly wasn't the case for the prior games. It came out dead center in the middle of the decade, but said design decisions would've been made a few years before the release, thus it was already a potent force within large game studios much earlier in the decade than there'll be direct evidence for.
Given how long it takes to make games, I suspect we still have more heavy woke stuff in the pipeline, but I suspect most stuff being greenlit now (releasing in >= 2 years) will NOT follow the sweet baby inc route anymore.
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CLW
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These things are often difficult to pinpoint - I’d argue late 00s
The American left thought they had started some sort of mythical revolutionary turning point bc of Obama. That election somehow convinced them they can and should do ANYTHING their minds could conjure up out of thin air
Of course the American left found out “Average Joe” voted for him because he looked and sounded “cool” and the economy had just hit the biggest recession in nearly 100 years. In fact Obama was LOSING to McCain prior to the economic collapse.
Corporate America also thought Obama was some sort of turning point and realized that if they jumped on board the alphabet soup oppression Olympics theology it was an effective sin permit to go and do whatever they wanted.
It’s all coming back to bite them now. Average Joe wants movies games etc for entertainment not be lectured about whatever cause de jeure is
The American left thought they had started some sort of mythical revolutionary turning point bc of Obama. That election somehow convinced them they can and should do ANYTHING their minds could conjure up out of thin air
Of course the American left found out “Average Joe” voted for him because he looked and sounded “cool” and the economy had just hit the biggest recession in nearly 100 years. In fact Obama was LOSING to McCain prior to the economic collapse.
Corporate America also thought Obama was some sort of turning point and realized that if they jumped on board the alphabet soup oppression Olympics theology it was an effective sin permit to go and do whatever they wanted.
It’s all coming back to bite them now. Average Joe wants movies games etc for entertainment not be lectured about whatever cause de jeure is
Someones been paying attention.
Idleyes
Gold Member
U tried to play race card and teach me stuff i knew, so i taught u some stuff back, seems pretty fair, most of the world who has sane views on this topic and hates wokeism/feminism isnt what u think it is, ofc they dont teach that stuff in gender studies, they like to hide/change history there
Oh, so you got in your feelings, then as a result thought the truth hurts, and decided to throw out some random truth in hopes to make me feel your pain? A thumbs up would have been much cooler.
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Idleyes
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To me It's paradoxical that those criticizing 'wokeness' are engaging in the very awareness it originally signified, recognition of social and racial injustice. Yet, they weaponize the term to discredit the same consciousness they possess.
I mean, I get it, the way the term's evolved and how it's broadly used now, but when you break it down, it makes no real sense. Honestly, it feels like a lot of people had no idea what the term originally meant before it became a catch-all buzzword.
Gamerfan81
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As everyone said, gamergate was the start of the hard infiltration.
But I would say you start seeing the formation of it as early as 2006.
Why 2006? The trailer of RE5 where Chris Redfield is killing a bunch of black zombies in Africa, it was said that video games like that were problematic and insensitive the critics went hard into video game companies like Capcom and said they were racist, lacked diversity to understand people, and came from a country like Japan that allied with Germany during WW2, so still had their racist mindset.
I remembered this vividly because it was one of the biggest stories in gaming that year about the "controversy" of that RE5 trailer, along with the Wii being about to be released.
But I would say you start seeing the formation of it as early as 2006.
Why 2006? The trailer of RE5 where Chris Redfield is killing a bunch of black zombies in Africa, it was said that video games like that were problematic and insensitive the critics went hard into video game companies like Capcom and said they were racist, lacked diversity to understand people, and came from a country like Japan that allied with Germany during WW2, so still had their racist mindset.
I remembered this vividly because it was one of the biggest stories in gaming that year about the "controversy" of that RE5 trailer, along with the Wii being about to be released.
Majormaxxx
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This is the real answer. It starts with the freaking money.
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DEAD ORIGINAL
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Gone home was so boring
As some people said earlier it is the media that created this. It's hard to pinpoint it to one game because we had games with a diverse cast of characters before, characters that would be considered woke now but no one would know that word back then and no one (or only very few) would have called out those devs and games.
In 1999 we had Shadow Man, having a black protagonist and support character(s). In 2000 we had Koudelka, having a Romani female (!) protagonist. Persona 2 from 1999 (Japan release) had queer and gay depictions of characters.
It's actually pretty normal to have characters on the edge of society in many stories; outcasts, chosen ones, shunned characters, hermits, outlaws, refugees, undead, etc.
The wokeness wasn't inherent to the games but what people made out of it (therefore the lack of diversity on a grand scale because it was more about skin colour and sexual preferences and identification – that normally wouldn't play a big role in high-stakes stories with worlds on the brink of extinction – than plausible and believable characters) and what ultimately lead to a reaction of the industry to flood certain topics upon you.
Currently been playing Eternal Strands and the way all the characters talk to each other feels like all of them went to therapy. Which wouldn't be a bad thing in real life. They're all supportive, cheer each other up, have high emotional intelligence and empathy. It's nice when everyone gets along but it's not interesting in a story. It's not a depiction of real conflict. It's an utopia and a lack of conflict. We had this in the infamous DA:V as well. Conflict between characters is the wrong use of a pronoun, some lost books and the like. That's not the kind of conflict I expect in a world threatening scenario and although light-hearted topics are generally fine, but if it's the only type of character conflict you have... well it's simply boring. Not to mention the lack of actual role playing where you can be an asshole towards anyone. Nope, that's not allowed here, only slightly snarky comments, tops.
The issue is not a new IP (Eternal Strands) doing something different than 90% of the games – like it or not, take it or leave it – it's becoming an issue when an established IP with a known tone, history and world building gets to be made so different you wouldn't recognise it anymore. And that's thanks to the outcry of very vocal people.
And let's not forget that companies don't this because they believe in the cause. It's because they think it sells. Until it won't, and they will paddle back. They jump on bandwagons because shareholders see a risk if they don't do it. See Mark Zuckerberg and Meta, years they proclaim diversity and equity. And now they stopped their program.
It just depends on what backlash is bigger, the one by minorities or majorities. It's calculated business. So while on the surface queer people should applaud strive for representation, and please indulge yourself by all means and be happy about it, but don't be fooled by AA(A) companies making you believe they think of you. They think of dollars.
In 1999 we had Shadow Man, having a black protagonist and support character(s). In 2000 we had Koudelka, having a Romani female (!) protagonist. Persona 2 from 1999 (Japan release) had queer and gay depictions of characters.
It's actually pretty normal to have characters on the edge of society in many stories; outcasts, chosen ones, shunned characters, hermits, outlaws, refugees, undead, etc.
The wokeness wasn't inherent to the games but what people made out of it (therefore the lack of diversity on a grand scale because it was more about skin colour and sexual preferences and identification – that normally wouldn't play a big role in high-stakes stories with worlds on the brink of extinction – than plausible and believable characters) and what ultimately lead to a reaction of the industry to flood certain topics upon you.
Currently been playing Eternal Strands and the way all the characters talk to each other feels like all of them went to therapy. Which wouldn't be a bad thing in real life. They're all supportive, cheer each other up, have high emotional intelligence and empathy. It's nice when everyone gets along but it's not interesting in a story. It's not a depiction of real conflict. It's an utopia and a lack of conflict. We had this in the infamous DA:V as well. Conflict between characters is the wrong use of a pronoun, some lost books and the like. That's not the kind of conflict I expect in a world threatening scenario and although light-hearted topics are generally fine, but if it's the only type of character conflict you have... well it's simply boring. Not to mention the lack of actual role playing where you can be an asshole towards anyone. Nope, that's not allowed here, only slightly snarky comments, tops.
The issue is not a new IP (Eternal Strands) doing something different than 90% of the games – like it or not, take it or leave it – it's becoming an issue when an established IP with a known tone, history and world building gets to be made so different you wouldn't recognise it anymore. And that's thanks to the outcry of very vocal people.
And let's not forget that companies don't this because they believe in the cause. It's because they think it sells. Until it won't, and they will paddle back. They jump on bandwagons because shareholders see a risk if they don't do it. See Mark Zuckerberg and Meta, years they proclaim diversity and equity. And now they stopped their program.
It just depends on what backlash is bigger, the one by minorities or majorities. It's calculated business. So while on the surface queer people should applaud strive for representation, and please indulge yourself by all means and be happy about it, but don't be fooled by AA(A) companies making you believe they think of you. They think of dollars.
PeteBull
Member
Dunno if u remember, but at the end of each metroid samus takes off her suits, and we, players, are rewarded with nice eye candyI honestly think it started back in 1986 with Metroid and Samus.
Women bounty hunters in my game?? What is this?? No wonder Naughty Dog is now copying it!
March Climber
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Don’t mind me, I’m just looking to see how far back people are trying to push when things started.
So far 2008 is the lowest year I’ve seen. Didn’t think someone would try to breach lower than the 2010s, but they did
DeltaPolarBear
Member
When did it start? It started when the term Woke was used. The effects isn't felt for years because that's how long it takes to make games, but I distinctly remember the first time I heard that term.
It was when I was watching a video study commentator on Youtube. She specializes in reviewing Disney films both new and old. And in one video she suddenly declared that "no, don't, i can be woke, don't hurt me!" or something to that effect. Basically she was afraid of some backlash and comically tried to make a joke that the Woke people would lynch her.
So it seems from way before Woke got into games, it was always a scary thing that forces everyone to agree with it.
As for actually when woke got into games, it is not possible to date, just because it is basically related to finding a wake game and tracing it back in time to when it was being made. It is always vague when a game truly got started, a game can be in the works for decades before it finishes and the woke can be ejected at any time in between.
It was when I was watching a video study commentator on Youtube. She specializes in reviewing Disney films both new and old. And in one video she suddenly declared that "no, don't, i can be woke, don't hurt me!" or something to that effect. Basically she was afraid of some backlash and comically tried to make a joke that the Woke people would lynch her.
So it seems from way before Woke got into games, it was always a scary thing that forces everyone to agree with it.
As for actually when woke got into games, it is not possible to date, just because it is basically related to finding a wake game and tracing it back in time to when it was being made. It is always vague when a game truly got started, a game can be in the works for decades before it finishes and the woke can be ejected at any time in between.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
The biggest issue I have always had with wokeness is that the main progress of diversity should be an over all UNITY not some clown version of segregated " special " groups.
We use to have stories of unity and kindness in the 80s and 90s, it wasn't perfect but it was slowly making a change.
Wokeness has just become marred with too many bad actors. Without clear definitions of what it is, it has led to people making it whatever they want to gain money or influence while hiding behind basic good ideals. A lot of it is based on pure revenge on false pretenses because everyone feels like it's " only them " who has problems.
We use to have stories of unity and kindness in the 80s and 90s, it wasn't perfect but it was slowly making a change.
Wokeness has just become marred with too many bad actors. Without clear definitions of what it is, it has led to people making it whatever they want to gain money or influence while hiding behind basic good ideals. A lot of it is based on pure revenge on false pretenses because everyone feels like it's " only them " who has problems.
StueyDuck
Member
The problem is calling it the "woke" trend, when it's had different names throughout the years, SJW, PC and so on.
But the people saying the 99% and occupy Wall Street are probably the most correct.
That's when companies pretended they had a conscience now, and became "entities" which would change their logos on "socially trending day".
I'd also argue that the #MeToo movement sparked and skyrocketed the involvement and hiring of bad faith actors in the industry.
But the people saying the 99% and occupy Wall Street are probably the most correct.
That's when companies pretended they had a conscience now, and became "entities" which would change their logos on "socially trending day".
I'd also argue that the #MeToo movement sparked and skyrocketed the involvement and hiring of bad faith actors in the industry.
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Little Chicken
Gold Member
Its not that deep, bro, its simple- supply and demand- 18yo avg girl straight from highschool can easily accumulate 1k bodies in a year if she only desires, for the simple reason men(and i mean all men, 18-60yo, aka with functioning pp
Women on the other hand ofc still care if man is tall/handsome/fit(so physical looks) but on top they prioritise his wealth/resources and status, they want him to be charismatic and funny too, most men have none of those qualities when they become adults, and must work for years, often decades to achieve that, hence at the starting line we got 0 sexual value, aka no way to get sex - hence we become involountary celibate
I don't even know where to begin with this.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Oh, since someone mention the comics...
One REALLY silly idea Marvel had, was to have all the major dark skinned characters they had in comics to end up working together. The issue being that nearly none of them had any reason to have anything to do with each other because they are all from different walks of life. I have no idea why they even did that other than woke points. Just because they are all black, doesn't mean they are in some secret club together. You might as well expect all Asians to have each other on speed-dial.
One REALLY silly idea Marvel had, was to have all the major dark skinned characters they had in comics to end up working together. The issue being that nearly none of them had any reason to have anything to do with each other because they are all from different walks of life. I have no idea why they even did that other than woke points. Just because they are all black, doesn't mean they are in some secret club together. You might as well expect all Asians to have each other on speed-dial.
N0S
Al Pachinko, Konami President
When they remake 5 it needs to have that vibe from the original reveal trailer.
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