nemiroff
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Wrong. We just have a thing for sponsoring leather jackets.
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ZOTAC confirms GeForce RTX 5090 with 32GB GDDR7 memory, 5080 and 5070 series listed as well
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
90 series card every generation for me, and would love a 5090Ti Super to launch for $3000 day one
GHG
Member
Yes, everything points to it using the same connector type again.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Really not looking forward to building a new mid-range PC in late 2025 / early 2026.
I want that one, too, but it's still 830EUR minimum here. If it was let's say 700 EUR, I'd go for it.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I wonder now if the rtx 5060 will perform worse visually than the Intel 580 with Indiana Jones. The Memory available seems to constrain what options can be enabled.
I can see the 5060 getting better FPS but it will be forced to turn off visual options. The 580 will have less FPS but will be running with options turned on.
I can see the 5060 getting better FPS but it will be forced to turn off visual options. The 580 will have less FPS but will be running with options turned on.
Locked features? Like what?
The VRAM part is true, but I have a 4080 and play at 1440p 180hz and I've never run into problems with VRAM ever. I'm assuming you game at 4k?
Ivan
Member
And you'll keep flexing on fucking neogaf about it...90 series card every generation for me, and would love a 5090Ti Super to launch for $3000 day one
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asdasdasdbb
Member
Really not looking forward to building a new mid-range PC in late 2025 / early 2026.
5060 really isn't midrange. It's like entry level at best.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Clearly we are reaching some limits here.Really not looking forward to building a new mid-range PC in late 2025 / early 2026.
Moore law is dead
Thanks for the funding of my midrange card!90 series card every generation for me, and would love a 5090Ti Super to launch for $3000 day one
I really hope AMD delivers something more in January some competition would be good for Nvidia's pricing. Although we gamers are only a niche market anyway.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
As long as people keep saying those of us with extra money want the best of the best gaming experience stupid or cucked fanbase your damn right I will
P:axMagellanic
Member
Yeah, I've wondered myself where the idiocy came from. Used to be that PC component buyers used to be a bit more discerning, rebadges of cards used to get absolutely crucified by the community and the press for example. A slightly noisy and hot cooler would make people go apeshit. Now we're in to what? three generations of a literally gimped mid range? The most important market segment for the hobby.
Like you I don't give a shit about Titan series, they'll always buy whatever they want. That's not the issue here.
I wonder if its because a load of former console dorks came over during the height of Crypto/Covid and will now buy any old shit. Is it a wider culture thing with people used to getting rinsed by gacha and skins in unfinished games anyway?
Bending over the sofa, spreading cheeks and spit-lubing ones own chocolate starfish is definitely a real thing in this community though.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
People just are more wealthy than ever and 3000$ gpu will sell I guess. It's really nonsense to me.
I hate that 90 cards are treatet as high end. Should be an extra extra option or don;t exist at all since it's just a high wattage cash grab and not a real efficiency improvement
nkarafo
Member
Since when the $300/400 price range is "entry level" ?
Also my "entry level" RTX 3060 from 3 years ago has 12 GB VRAM.
nkarafo
Member
And the 60 cards are treated as entry level, despite the price range.
I mean technically they are, Jensen scammed PC gamers by renaming the 128bit 50 series cards to 60. And PC gamers accepted that that with open arms.
I recently got my 12GB, 192bit 3060 (the last good Nvidia mid-range card) for $240 and i'm happy at 1080p. I couldn't care less for the newer gimped Nvidia cards. Maybe next time i'll jump to AMD.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
Several years, honestly.
nkarafo
Member
Sorry, won't accept the $300 price range as entry level.
In 2006 i got the X1950 pro for $220. This was considered a high end card ($340 with today's money).
The X1950XT was the niche "enthusiast" range and that would cost $450 then ($700 today). But now you need to pay more than $2000 to be in that range?
This is how the ranges normally go if we consider the prices (as we should):
X080 - enthusiast
X070 - high end
X060 - mid range
X050 - entry level
X030 - office junk
....
X090 - An experimental range for those who don't care about money?
But now they scrapped the 30 series completely, renamed all the others one step above their real performance/value and even increased the prices because now the 90 series is considered the new enthusiast for 3x the money.
It's sad how low the standards have dropped and how PC gamers have normalized paying more for the same products. The guy above me accepted the $300 range as entry level, in that you shouldn't expect any decent performance when buying a fucking $300 card. And he is not the only one.
It's like we are back at the mid-90's again, where you had to pay a full month's salary to be able to play Quake at 20 fps.
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Grildon Tundy
Member
NVIDIA has trained their consumers to accept outlandish prices. They're to "blame"..but people are willing to pay it. It's outrageous; I don't like it; but it is what it is.
All I can control is my actions, so looks like I'll be holding off on the 5000 series. My RTX 3080 still plays most games 4K at 60fps, and that's good enough for me.
All I can control is my actions, so looks like I'll be holding off on the 5000 series. My RTX 3080 still plays most games 4K at 60fps, and that's good enough for me.
Insane Metal
Member
8GB is unacceptable IMO.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Much better way to put it then calling people names
nemiroff
Gold Member
Let's hope so.
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hinch7
Member
It pretty much is though. There is no 4050 this generation. And 3050 is practically useless DGPU for gaming and is just a slot in card.
The 5060 series will be the same. Nvidia shuffled the SKU's lower with each tier with Ada Lovelace and Blackwell will follow. As in the 5060 is practically the new XX50.
Cost is irrelevant, they've bumped up the price across the stack.
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CityHunter1981
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The question will be, if they have a new feature like frame gen, that was their main argument for the 4000 series. If it doesn’t have a new exclusive feature, they have to put more raw power in it.
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xenosys
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The 4090 will probably end up being the 1080Ti of this decade, it's so far ahead of the rest of the chasing pack, and it'll probably still trade blows with the 5080 when it's released whilst remaining relevant for another 2 gens.
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delirium trigger
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It's only true of the 60 class cards. The 60 class has basically turned into the yea it'll play your game class. The 4070 matched the 3080 and the 4070 ti could hang with the 3090/ti. 4080 definitely had a weird price but the 4090 with all it's performance was priced fine. Highly doubt the 5070ti can match a 4090.
LordOfChaos
Member
I don't see 8GB on that dropdown menu. Thats a good sign.
edit-I see the 5060 with 8 however.
If people don't want Nvidia and AMD to string along with embarrassing amounts of VRAM for this tier, you actually have to BUY the B580 and make it successful enough to dent marketshare
coping hard
Grildon Tundy
Member
"Coping": the process of managing taxing circumstances, expending effort to solve personal and interpersonal problems, and seeking to master, minimize, reduce or tolerate stress or conflict.
So yes.
LordOfChaos
Member
Really not looking forward to building a new mid-range PC in late 2025 / early 2026.
There is an answer...
CoreyFlawless
Member
If they cheap out on the ram this time. Imma just go to amd. I don’t need that ray trace shit. If the 5080 least don’t have a 24gb. I’m done with team green. And be all team red. Been team blue/green, then went red/green. Gonna go all red if this happens.
Bojji
Member
4060 has 128 bit and 8GB. 5060 looks to be repeat of that, unless they wait long enough to be able to use 3GB chips on it and make it 12GB.
Between 16GB 5060ti and 16GB 5070ti, normal 5070 with 12GB looks like shit.
LavitzSlambert
Member
The crypto mining craze is what ignited the greater fool theory of GPU purchasing. Everyone thought "I can use this to make money", and then when the crash happened people justified other reasons for their dumbass purchases. And the manufacturers followed the money - look at all the dumbshit "gamer" branded trash they are pumping out. You have fucking Corsair trying to act like they're a lifestyle brand with all their accessories. It used to be bad with the dumb RGB gamer look, but it's 100 times worse now.
Look at the hardware survey, you just see it more because anyone running a xx90 card feels the need to justify it to their 37 youtube subscribers. People find stupid ways to waste money, it's nothing new except for the numbers going up.
Yup, it's shrinkflation and enshittification all the way down with Nvidia. Classic rebrand because people don't actually understand what they're buying. Somewhere along the way the actual mid-range cards were no longer recommended or cool to own, everyone got upsold to the high tier. But in real life most people can only afford a mid tier card or worse. It's a double whammy because now you are selling an 8GB 4060 to someone who could only afford a mid range card, yet its specs are low tier. And people are eating this up! Disgraceful.
Thank you, this is the price chart we should be actually looking at. Titan was a one-off weird thing not directed at gamers, and more a halo "what could we do if we were stupid about it?" card from Nvidia. I think the only hope we have is for Nvidia to continue their arrogance and fuck up immensely on the VRAM situation, and locking any software improvements to the new cards. With enough time those two things will be obvious and egregious enough to piss off their fanbase. Thankfully Intel is putting pressure on AMD so there may actually half decent options in the range most people are shopping. Otherwise AMD and Nvidia would be sitting their content, not really competing against each other and just enjoying the margins. Can't wait for this all to come crashing down on them.
Hoddi
Member
That would be my plan if they release something higher end than B580. It's only on par with my current 2080Ti so it wouldn't be an upgrade for me but I'd definitely consider a larger Battlemage card.
As is, I'm now more interested to see what AMD is coming up with than nvidia. They're getting too uppity for my tastes and someone needs to support the little guy. I'll never understand this level of codependency where people feel like they have to buy an nvidia card when it barely matters in the vast majority of games.
nkarafo
Member
See, that's what i'm talking about. This is so absurd, it should be fake.
Unfortunately, it isn't.
This is for the 4070 Ti, I meant the 4070 Ti Super. According to the linked charts it's more like 12-15% (depending on resolution) and 43-51% (!) with RT. This is some mighty difference :/