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Aaron Greenberg: 60fps will be the standard output for Xbox Series X
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The Pleasure
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Are third paryies gonna agree with that? Since the vast majority of 3rd parties go for graphics are you gonna tell them what to do?
JareBear: Remastered
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Hmmm...I would love this to turn out to be true but I am pretty positive numerous titles will opt for 30fps throughout next gen.
Playing Dirt 5 at 120 fps will be cool, for sure, but that won't stop GTA6 possibly needing to be 30fps
Playing Dirt 5 at 120 fps will be cool, for sure, but that won't stop GTA6 possibly needing to be 30fps
KingdomHeartsFan
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Is Assassin's Creed Valhalla 60 fps? If your launch games aren't even 60 fps then its clear it won't be "standard" throughout the generation.
Mister Wolf
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They showed their commitment to 60fps with Gears/Halo 5.
hyperbertha
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NO WAY 4k 60 fps is being standard at 10 ish teraflops. Unless you want actual graphics to stagnate.
New Yorks Finest
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Its 61 fps, Aaron just called me on the down low.
Wandering Leopard
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A carefully worded PR response that doesn't really answer the unreasonable question and statement from that person Nick.
I think he's more or less saying, while the standard will be 60, the supported/alternative/non-standard outputs include 30 and up to 120.
I think he's more or less saying, while the standard will be 60, the supported/alternative/non-standard outputs include 30 and up to 120.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
The guy's a liar.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Microsoft will likely be targeting 60fps for their titles, but as long as third parties are chasing the shiny graphics for their games, they'll be more than satisifed to settle for 30fps.
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Endless Fluff
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60Hz output is standard for pretty much everything, even a FireTV stick runs at 60Hz... that doesn't mean that the software, video steams etc run at 60fps.
It's like running windows on a 240Hz monitor while playing a 60fps game. The monitor still displays 240 frames per second (edit: unless the game runs in exclusive fullscreen). So I believe he's either really vague, or he didn't understand the question.
It's like running windows on a 240Hz monitor while playing a 60fps game. The monitor still displays 240 frames per second (edit: unless the game runs in exclusive fullscreen). So I believe he's either really vague, or he didn't understand the question.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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The power is available...
Pallas
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So we should at least expect exclusive Xbox Series X games And those exclusives optimized for it when they release to be the standard, which is at 60fps, thats how I took that twitter post, since 3rd party developers will do what they need to do and I imagine some if not many would opt for 30fps.
Perhaps not at a variable 10TF’s, but that extra 2 or so TF’s from the series X should give it a bit more headway.
Perhaps not at a variable 10TF’s, but that extra 2 or so TF’s from the series X should give it a bit more headway.
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Endless Fluff
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There's another spin you can put on this. Games are first and foremost optimized for Lockhart (a 4TF machine if rumors are true), so Series X should've enough headroom to brute force 60fps in all games, just like a decent PC has pretty much no problems running current games at 60fps.
I believe it when I see it.
Pallas
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I didn’t add Lockhart into the equation because I’m honestly starting to doubt its existence but that is one way to go about it.
Bladed Thesis
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These threads are getting great.
Makes me want to go comb through chinese telephones articles to find one line that I can make a thread about. Love this stuff, great content.
Makes me want to go comb through chinese telephones articles to find one line that I can make a thread about. Love this stuff, great content.
Jayjayhd34
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I believe it exsisted but am starting to doubt it will ever see the light of day.
Self High Five
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This was directly asked yesterday to the partner director of program management for Xbox:
The big interview: Xbox Series X development chief Jason Ronald on power, price and that new boot screen
Jason Ronald's job title is partner director of program management for the Xbox platform team, but what that somewhat r…
www.eurogamer.net
It's Aaron Greenberg so I would take what he says with a huge grain of salt.
thebigmanjosh
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The key word is "output".
Technically XSX will output at 60fps even if the game renders at 30fps much like
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SidViscous
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Is this another "display output will always be 60hz" thing? Seeing as it's running cross gen titles they better be 60fps!
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JerryinSoCal
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I was pointing that out to people yesterday, this guy is a marketing geek and he talks out of his ass. Maybe it'll be standard for 1st party but I would think if you want o see game pushing things like ray tracing then 60fps is going to be hard to come by. I know there is a dev working on a PS5 game saying they are doing RT at 4K with 60fps but that game doesn't look like it's pushing the limits plus they haven't even gotten a PS5 dev kit so it could all just be big talk.
JerryinSoCal
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Being that a 1.8TF advantage with extra memory only got us a res boost from the Pro to the One X I don't see much more being done with a smaller differential
Radical_3d
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Greenberg. What a pest in the XBox garden.
I mean Greenberg says alot without any 100% proof, its kinda obvious some games will hit 30 FPS, Greenberg is always stating something like he was 100%, I don't really like following him to be on par with something...
He's just making xbox promises that eventually will be broken, and then xbox turns into a meme of itself
He's just making xbox promises that eventually will be broken, and then xbox turns into a meme of itself
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Deleted member 17706
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Oh man... that's a classic.
It's nice that they at least acknowledge 60 fps is a good goal to have. Hopefully that holds true for 1st party stuff.
I'm going to be on PC with a 3080 Ti and a new 8+ core processor, so I don't give a shit either way. 144hz + or bust!
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GlassAwful
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Why does MS give this dumbfuck money?
Give me some god damned money. I'll spin a yarn twice as fast and thrice as long..
Give me some god damned money. I'll spin a yarn twice as fast and thrice as long..
JordanN
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But it's ok for gameplay to stagnate?
60fps will always be more fluid and responsive than 30fps. You're basically asking for a less playable game just for better visuals.
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Deleted member 17706
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I'd be way down with that. If we could keep the level of graphics at the current gen level, but get 4K60FPS for every game on the next consoles, I think that would be awesome.
Journey
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Remember when they said "all XBOX 360 will run at 720p minimum". First game, PGR: 576P
PGR was an exception, not the rule, in fact, the majority of Xbox 360 games ran at 720p and often ran at higher res than PS3, what does that tell you when Sony said PS3 games would be 1080p Full HD? and they tired with games like NBA 07 LMAO, now that is a disgrace, hardly any PS3 game was 1080p, that was a blatant lie from them and their dual HDMI output at 1080p
Bringing this up after Sony lied about PS3 outputting games at 1080p and having twice the power of 360 makes you look like a blind fanboy
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JareBear: Remastered
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Not all the games shown yesterday even claim to target 60fps. A lot of them do, but it seems like a lot of people agree that Valhalla will be 30 fps on console.
DeepEnigma
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Also Aaron Greenberg:
Let's hope he is not pulling the ole, "your TV is 60hz" like most sets are, routine.
Let's hope he is not pulling the ole, "your TV is 60hz" like most sets are, routine.
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PGR was an exception, not the rule, in fact, the majority of Xbox 360 games ran at 720p and often ran at higher res than PS3, what does that tell you when Sony said PS3 games would be 1080p Full HD? and they tired with games like NBA 07 LMAO, now that is a disgrace, hardly any PS3 game was 1080p, that was a blatant lie from them and their dual HDMI output at 1080p
Bringing this up after Sony lied about PS3 outputting games at 1080p and having twice the power of 360 makes you look like a blind fanboy
Tons of 720p and not-so-720p games on both consoles.
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The other thread was getting to big for its own good, and as has been requested often enough, an easy-to-find compilation of discovered resolutions is needed. I or other mods may update this thread as time goes. Here is how resolutions can be determined...
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The reason Aaron Greenberg's past claims about graphics are being brought up is because this is a thread about Aaron Greenberg making claims about graphics.
