adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Also the baseball season is starting iirc, natural expected boost related to it.
Assassin's Creed Shadows officially has surpassed the launches of AC Origins and AC Odyssey according to UbiSoft
Also the baseball season is starting iirc, natural expected boost related to it.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
That's not how it works. If you pander to a certain demographics, you would want your products sell to them. The problem with wokeness/DEI is that they pander to a demographics for almost zero return. How many "games for modern audience" succeeded? Literally yesterday we had thread about all LiS dev got laid off. This trend is hurting the industry.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
It adds choice to the game in the same way that the romances are available for both charactersYou are spinning the argument yet again. You were arguing if we had eden apple or Washington, why can't we have gay Yasuke.
My point was Yasuke being gay adds no benefit to the game, or even just make sense; it is clearly there to pander the modern audience, which almost won't help the game's sales figure at all.
Canon and Immersive Mode Explained - Assassin's Creed Shadows Guide - IGN
When starting a new game in Assassin's Creed Shadows, you'll be prompted with several game setup options ranging from your difficulty setting towww.ign.com
Both can be either gay or not or abstain just pick and choose I dont see the issue, its an rpg with choices
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Adding a chooseable romance options is not dei, forcing a choice on player would be more apt but giving the player a freedom of choice is not what I would call dei pill here.
By that logic you can say that dei games like KCD2 and Baldurs Gate 3 were Uber successful. Looks like Shadows is also heading towards success.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
As I mentioned previously, I have no issue with Naoe because she is completely fictional and Ubi can create whatever the sexuality of her as they wanted to.
Yasuke on the other hand, is real historical figure, with no record indicating he could be gay in feudal Japan. Such creative choice is clearly pandering to certain groups. And speak of consequence, this did sparked a huge debate all over the place, right? Is this necessary a good thing for the game?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
How exactly does a completely optional romance path even affect you if, as you say, it doesn't pander to you? Can you not just, you know, not do the gay romance?
You're making it seem as if there is only one way to play the game and it's as a gay character.
Does it really bother you that much just that the option is there for those who want to feel more included?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
To be fair there are a lot of fabrication and lies about his story.
Was the life of Yasuke from Assassin's Creed Shadows invented by a scientist? The university is investigating, the Japanese parliament is interested
The dubious historical accuracy and alleged disrespect for Japanese culture in Assassin's Creed Shadows has led to a scandal that continues to flare uitc.ua
This is ludicrous - we have historical texts acknowledging that he went to Japan with a Italian jesuit, that he was robust and well mannered and that he became a member of Nobunaga's retinue, that Nobunaga would sometimes let Yasuke carry his sword, and that he gave him a household, a stipend and a sword. These same historical texts say that Nobunaga took a liking to Yasuke and enjoyed talking to him although Yasuke was not very well versed in Japanese. We also know he was present at the honno-ji incident but was spared because he was not Japanese.
He was without a doubt, a real historical figure.
A weapon, a household and a stipend.
PauloRoberto
Member
let me say the same thing in another way... bizarrely, nioh 2 was more historically accurate than AC Shadows :-D
FYI... poor Yasuke in nioh 2... it was so easy to arrange some free levels whooping his a**.... :-D
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
My man, I feel like we are just keep circulating. Come on now.
You are making shits up. Where did I ever imply the only way to play is as gay?
I play the game, enjoy the goods it offers while calls out bullshits it sneaks in. Always have been like this. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
"those who want to feel more included" what a false statement, then what about other communities the game does not feature? This is an endless rabbit hole and this is not what the game is about, Ubi certainly doesn't have the capability to handle it well.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Doesn't Yasuke bang Nobu's sister?
Not that we have all the historic facts about the guy but I don't know why you keep calling him a gay samurai. That's just not true
There's a gay fish joke in here somewhere.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
Altering him into bisexual is even worse and you know exactly why Ubi did this, for "inclusion".Doesn't Yasuke bang Nobu's sister?
Not that we have all the historic facts about the guy but I don't know why you keep calling him a gay samurai. That's just not true
There's a gay fish joke in here somewhere.
I have nothing against folks enjoying the game, just calling out BS Ubi put on there. There would have been way less controversies had none of those "inclusive options" existed and circulated online, and it would have been a good thing for the game, you know it.
Hero_Select
Member
Why does it matter how historically accurate a game is or isn't?
Assassins Creed has always put historical figures in their games and then worked a story around them
Lokaum D+
Member
And yet Ubisoft wont disclosure copies sold, It seens that engagement is more important to shareholders#1 selling Pro Enhanced game, #2 overall game on US PSN.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Bookmark me.
I'm confident this will be a massive hit.
2 million players already in a few days. With positive reviews and word of mouth, this figure can only go up.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Developers went out of their way to make the male lead be the only black guy in feudal Japan.
He has three romance options, two of them being part of the LGBTQ umbrella. The heteronormative option is literally the minority in Yasuke's campaign.
There is a character who uses They/Them pronouns, which not only is the trademark of woketardation, it is also 100% immersion breaking for a feudal Japan setting.
Yeah.
Game's not woke at all.
PauloRoberto
Member
You said it... worked a story around them, not changed what is known about them to follow an agenda.
All of that is optional and part of AC games since Odyssey and Yasuke isn't the main character. You're just spewing false grifter propaganda easily proven false by a game that's already out.
Killer8
Member
I wonder if people also have any strong thoughts about the romance options in the Japanese-made Rise of the Ronin, many of which were also real historical figures:
Wonder how Matthew Perry's family feel about the idea of him crossing sabres in the land of the rising sun:
Given you can customize the main character down to the gender, it also makes a lesbian romance possible with Princess Atsuko:
I didn't hear any outrage about any of this...
Wonder how Matthew Perry's family feel about the idea of him crossing sabres in the land of the rising sun:
Given you can customize the main character down to the gender, it also makes a lesbian romance possible with Princess Atsuko:
I didn't hear any outrage about any of this...
Nickolaidas
Banned
None of what I said was false - what the hell are you talking about?
It might be worse than I thought if that's true about the baseball game.
It's disingenuous omitting the fact that you have to have canon mode turned off to even access the optional romance stuff. 99% of people won't even run into that stuff. Just like with Odyssey and Valhalla.
I wonder if people also have any strong thoughts about the romance options in the Japanese-made Rise of the Ronin, many of which were also real historical figures:
Wonder how Matthew Perry's family feel about the idea of him crossing sabres in the land of the rising sun:
Given you can customize the main character down to the gender, it also makes a lesbian romance possible with Princess Atsuko:
I didn't hear any outrage about any of this...
Their favorite chibi avatar didn't tell them to get mad about that because the game wasn't big enough to drive engagement.
The Chairman
Member
If only you could fool the investors the same way you fool some members here with your cope, Ubislop might actually be saved!#1 selling Pro Enhanced game, #2 overall game on US PSN.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Some people don't understand that 2million players/sales for a game that needs to hit 8-10 isn't exactly a home run.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nickolaidas
Banned
Of course they're optional - that's why they are called OPTIONS. It's in the name.
The fact remains that when you play as Yasuke, your options in terms of romance are one heterosexual woman, one gay man and one non-binary they/them. The supposed sexual minorities are actually more in number than the supposed sexual majorities.
You're basically saying that Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't have bestiality because you have to search for it. That's just stupid.
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There are no romance options with canon mode on. Meaning the romance options of the canon story are: NONE
Griffon
Member
He still said the truth. Nobody cares what you feel about it.
Is Baldur's Gate woke because literally every character is bisexual?
Nickolaidas
Banned
"The game isn't woke, because when I turn a game option on, I lose access to the woke content."
Wait, wait - I got a better one.
"Assassin's Creed Shadows doesn't have any graphics, because the moment I run the game, I shut my eyes."
Nickolaidas
Banned
Well according to your logic, there is no sexual content in Baldur's Gate 3, because you can turn it off at the beginning of the game.
You avoided the question. Is Baldur's Gate 3 woke? Is Rise of Ronin woke because you can have a gay relationship with a historical figure?
MMaRsu
Gold Member
we've moved from game needs to be succesful to game needs to entirely save the entire Ubi companyIf only you could fool the investors the same way you fool some members here with your cope, Ubislop might actually be saved!
GHG
Gold Member
If that's the case then why are we drawing the line there?
A quick Google says that today there are over 600 recognised sexual orientations.
And the best they could do is stretch to making gay and lesbian individuals feel included? Sacrilege. Where's the love for our skoliosexual brothers and sisters?
Nickolaidas
Banned
There are no bisexual characters in Baldur's Gate 3, because you can turn off NSFW content at the beginning of the game.
Your rules. Not mine.
Baemono
Member
Let's not forget that you can make your character in Rise of the Ronin look like this, if you wish:
Keep avoiding the question.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Didn't make the rules!
MMaRsu
Gold Member
I think you can turn off the romances in this game by choosing canon mode.
Or is that not what you want?
Nickolaidas
Banned
It's not about what I want. It's about what are the options that are presented to me and what I am to think about the people who offer me said options.
Let me put it this way.
I go inside a bar.
There is a beautiful straight woman sitting in one table.
In another table, sits a gay man.
In another table, sits a lesbian.
In another table, sits a furry.
In another table, sits a 'non-binary'.
In another table, sits a drag queen.
I am only interested in the beautiful woman.
Does that change the fact that I walked in what turned out to be an LGBTQ bar?
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Here you go little buddy.
I said you're making it seem as if that's the only way to play. Because otherwise, your bitching is even more petty. You do you though I guess.
Also that last part is laughably revealing. So if you can't include everyone, just include straight white males I guess. Again, revealing. Anyway carry on bitching about something in the game you'll never see unless you want to see a gay samurai.
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GHG
Gold Member
That's what's always funny to me. He's supposedly purchased multiple copies of this game (or most likely, been sent them).
And instead of throwing his time in to enjoying the game he's spent the bulk of his time attempting to sell Ubisoft a handful more copies.
Here you go little buddy.
That's it? You just want to be dismissive and palm off my concerns surrounding the hundreds of sexual orientations they've failed to represent in this game?
Not very progressive of you now is it?
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BlitzerRadic
Member
lmao you cant prove anything you said is true. Like how do you even get to "almost zero return?"
Plenty going by what games the anti people are complaining about.
Giallo Corsa
Member
I can imagine Manabyte masturbating furiously while reading his own OP title thinking " Damn I'm cool, take that chuds !" and after replying to each and every dissenting opinion in here.
Man's on an unhinged crusade, and for what ? A fucking videogame of all things - and an extremely mediocre one at that, 'cause, let's not kid ourselves, if you think this bullshit is worth fighting for, maybe it's time to reconsider both your hobbies - and especially - your life.
To think that some of these people are actually above 20-something years old and are actually married with children...It literally bogles the mind, it's like people don't have anything better to do than trying to stick it to another person and be at each other's throat for days.
Manabyte, you've been basically living inside this thread for 2 days in a row now and your late unhinged behavior is just...not only weird but actually annoying, you keep trying to lecture people and continuously insinuate that they're wrong and/or chuds®, hope that at the very least you get your kicks out of it.
This forum is slowly changing back towards the bad ol'days and we have to "thank" 5-7 people for that ('cause there ain't more than those) and it's a shame, it's a constant dog eat dog situation with people being constantly petty and regaling others with epithets.
Congrats form fucking up the forum I suppose...
Food for thought eh ?
Man's on an unhinged crusade, and for what ? A fucking videogame of all things - and an extremely mediocre one at that, 'cause, let's not kid ourselves, if you think this bullshit is worth fighting for, maybe it's time to reconsider both your hobbies - and especially - your life.
To think that some of these people are actually above 20-something years old and are actually married with children...It literally bogles the mind, it's like people don't have anything better to do than trying to stick it to another person and be at each other's throat for days.
Manabyte, you've been basically living inside this thread for 2 days in a row now and your late unhinged behavior is just...not only weird but actually annoying, you keep trying to lecture people and continuously insinuate that they're wrong and/or chuds®, hope that at the very least you get your kicks out of it.
This forum is slowly changing back towards the bad ol'days and we have to "thank" 5-7 people for that ('cause there ain't more than those) and it's a shame, it's a constant dog eat dog situation with people being constantly petty and regaling others with epithets.
Congrats form fucking up the forum I suppose...
Food for thought eh ?