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Avowed devs details the game's character creator and shows some of their creations

GymWolf

Member
Yes.
With more neutral facial expressions she doesnt even look that far off the face model.

Wait are you talking about the character or the model.
Cuz I know people got different tastes but no way you think the face model aint good looking?

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I dont have time to scour the trailer to find her in the exact same poses.



All Fable games had options to be gay and were inclusive of LGBTQ+.
Fom my understand reading into the Anti-Woke being inclusive and gay is Woke.
Fable'25 is being called Woke because the character we have seen isnt a doll like smokeshow.


Then again I dont even fully understand what is woke these days.
i have to be honest, i really don't like the real life model so i may even say that i like the ingame pic where she looks normal over her real face :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

Maybe it's the haircut, the face expression or the camera angle in that specific pic.
 
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Hollywood Hitman

Gold Member
Yes.
With more neutral facial expressions she doesnt even look that far off the face model.

Wait are you talking about the character or the model.
Cuz I know people got different tastes but no way you think the face model aint good looking?

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I dont have time to scour the trailer to find her in the exact same poses.



All Fable games had options to be gay and were inclusive of LGBTQ+.
Fom my understand reading into the Anti-Woke being inclusive and gay is Woke.
Fable'25 is being called Woke because the character we have seen isnt a doll like smokeshow.


Then again I dont even fully understand what is woke these days.

I think for me the easiest way most of the time Is ask how does whatever it may be in question, make sense. Like for instance in Veilguard top surgery scars and a storyline where a character in a fantasy world where you're fighting dragons and gods, Is litrelly saying actual modern day PC lingo like non binary and transgender... Makes zero sense in that game, is 100% forced lecturing nonsense.

I really do think it just comes down to just common sense on what normal is as we all experienced normal for many years in gaming. But I also agree that there are probably some things that in yesteryear we wouldn't have issue with but today we would.

I think about tbh alot of music I love and the attire or way they'd dress, like 70s and 80s you had jagger looking like a woman at times, or 80s rock bands pole poison lookin like women among others... None of it bothers me because it was a "schtick"... I rememeber dee Snyder saying it was simply a fuck you to society, they were so confident in masculinity they COULD just do whatever... But none of it bothers me like it does now and that's probably because the mentally ill actually tried to say men are women... But I'm sorta off track here a bit, and I guess ultimately I don't know what the fuck woke is either ultimately in some cases 😅🤣😭
 

DirtInUrEye

Member
So wat. You only ever really see the back of them in various regalia anyway. As long as the characters aren't all sitting around a table sharing how gay and special they are, I can make the character creator work.

People just look for problems these days, it's like a crap new pastime.
 

simpatico

Member
What is it with game devs and facial markings? Has anyone ever not turned that slider to OFF? I for one and am excited about AI making games from concept to final release with zero human input.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Great news, you can make one to your own liking in the character creator.

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Imagine if peoples had shit on BG3 for the weirder spectrum of character creator you can do in.... most western RPGs.

Even Larian, if peoples recall, was challenging peoples to stop making the typical Bob dweller after looking at the stats of how peoples created characters. You go into fantasy game and you want to be bland as fuck... ok, you can.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Imagine if peoples had shit on BG3 for the weirder spectrum of character creator you can do in.... most western RPGs.

Even Larian, if peoples recall, was challenging peoples to stop making the typical Bob dweller after looking at the stats of how peoples created characters. You go into fantasy game and you want to be bland as fuck... ok, you can.


I don't know what you're on about, mate.

This looks rather unappealing and annoying to me.

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Buggy Loop

Member
Models look ok, but it still gonna have that stilt, wooden digital acting during chitchat with npcs.

Horizon 2 is more than 3 years away, cyberpunk is even older and no game has been even close to their chitchat tech, when half of your game is talking to zoomed up characters that should be a fucking priority, they are asking for 70 dollars, not an indie price, step up your fucking game, this is not 2000s anymore.

You don't even need to mocap all the dialogues, horizon doesn't do it neither.

Gym, wanted to reply but forgot

I know you always want peak graphical fidelity

But for cRPG fans, we went from 2d Isometric pillars of eternity with portraits and text to this

Its already a leap over Bethesda's tech. Not much of a high bar you'll say, but for western RPG fans, its hard to not be excited. It seems roughly on BG 3 level. Which is fine.

Could it be better? For sure. But peak facial technology does not make me interested to install Horizon Forbidden west ;)
 

Wimbledon

Member
Thank god we can turn those features off, that's making me itch my head for some reason. Like I cant look at that directly, its making me itch.
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Fair enough, I played the first one almost 20 years ago and don't recall any romance options, except I think you visit a whore house at one point? Never played 2.
If that screenshot was an example of their gay characters though, it certainly looks to have been meant as a joke.

Its always the people who dont really care about a game who really care about a game.

The model is better looking, but not by a great margin. She looks like she could be Alia Shawkat's brother.

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DirtInUrEye

Member
Gina from The Great Circle is a decent example of a female character whom I didn't find at all appealing at first glance, but one that I warmed to a bit by the end of the game. I got over her suboptimal hairdo and found her fairly charming in that final cutscene.
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
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JayK47

Member
I hope they have some decent presets. I like making my own character, but I do not get into every little detail like changing chin, cheeks, nose etc. I always end up making them look worse. The hair looks really good and there are lots of things to make a unique character supposedly. I too am worried the body sliders will be very limited and I doubt you will be able to make a curvy female (or body type B or some stupid shit). Can almost certainly bet there will be top surgery scar options.
 

GymWolf

Member
Gym, wanted to reply but forgot

I know you always want peak graphical fidelity

But for cRPG fans, we went from 2d Isometric pillars of eternity with portraits and text to this

Its already a leap over Bethesda's tech. Not much of a high bar you'll say, but for western RPG fans, its hard to not be excited. It seems roughly on BG 3 level. Which is fine.

Could it be better? For sure. But peak facial technology does not make me interested to install Horizon Forbidden west ;)
It is not about graphic fidelity, it's about believability of your npcs, for once i would like not to talk to fucking robots that wear human skin :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Those character models have a lot more detail than anything in The Outer Worlds, at least that problem's taken care of.
Because Avowed is releasing 7 years after The Outer Worlds?

Or do you normally expect 0 improvements in two games that release 7 years apart and across 2 different generations?
 

Buggy Loop

Member
It is not about graphic fidelity, it's about believability of your npcs, for once i would like not to talk to fucking robots that wear human skin :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

Yea it would be nice

There’s always a ton of tools presented to make facial animations easier and especially UE5, not sure what would make a technological barrier to not use them and have an internal made one.
 

Zug

Member
I'm really into Pillars of Eternity lore so this is interesting.
PoE/PoE2 writing was still way above the industry standard a few years ago so hopefully they shouldn't have fallen at Veilguard level of nonsense.
If we are to play a godlike then the weird appearance is 100% justified, godlikes are weird and mostly outcasts.
Also PoE world isn't really vanilla fantasy like Dragon's Dogma or Skyrim, or only on the surface maybe.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Because Avowed is releasing 7 years after The Outer Worlds?

Or do you normally expect 0 improvements in two games that release 7 years apart and across 2 different generations?

Not just sheer tech, you've shared that Outer Worlds character image template enough times to know that :p

It's not just the same square jaw face templates with 3 very similar looking hairlines, there seems to be actual and genuine variety here, you can seemingly go buck wild and make a tree-man if you want to. Or some very feminine looking females with long hair if that's one speed. And those "Godlike" things on the character models can also be toggled off, they're just there for narrative since your character is supposed to be a godlike irrespective of the race/gender etc.



Its always the people who dont really care about a game who really care about a game.

Ancient proverb: Any time someone says they don't care about something, they definitely care about something.
 
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Buggy Loop

Member
New screenshot. A Dreamthrall

"As an envoy of Aedyr, you are sent to investigate rumors of a spreading plague. The Dreamscourge ravages not only the body and soul but even the surrounding ecosystem.
The afflicted are referred to as Dreamthralls, as they appear to be enthralled by a strange and horrifying madness."

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That's metal as fuck
 

nnytk

Member
I don't want to bash on this game but I'm reminded of this old school DnD book that my friend has. It contains a ton of sketches and early DnD artwork. Demons, devils, characters, dragons, all kinds of fantasy stuff.

The drawings in this publication are quite intricate and often naïve in style, but there's a logical love or... direction to it. It tries to be fantasy, kind of dark, in a way that is interesting or attractive, something that peaks your curiosity.

The characters shown in OP have the energy of a poor man's Midsommar cosplay with a dash of queerness. It's so damn dull, how do you even come up with these types of designs and feel good about them. Sterile. Safe. Uninteresting. And sadly, quite boring.
 


That's an old tweet but it does seem at least they've upgraded massively the visuals compared to the old trailer

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The lighting and material PBR got huge upgrades over the old trailer.

Now, where is Obsidian marketing gonna show us a brand new trailer or a dev commentary, the game is out in 3 weeks


Not feeling it much , the faces in particular look lifeless imo. The environments look a bit better though.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
I don't want to bash on this game but I'm reminded of this old school DnD book that my friend has. It contains a ton of sketches and early DnD artwork. Demons, devils, characters, dragons, all kinds of fantasy stuff.

The drawings in this publication are quite intricate and often naïve in style, but there's a logical love or... direction to it. It tries to be fantasy, kind of dark, in a way that is interesting or attractive, something that peaks your curiosity.

The characters shown in OP have the energy of a poor man's Midsommar cosplay with a dash of queerness. It's so damn dull, how do you even come up with these types of designs and feel good about them. Sterile. Safe. Uninteresting. And sadly, quite boring.

You do realize the pictures in the OP are from the character creator, and you can create your own designs to suit your taste?
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I’m gonna spend 3 hours making a character with some fucked up face deformation where mushrooms acts like a mask and we don’t see eyes anymore


Then play first person

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I'm making a purple character with a jawline which would make Thanos blush. I'll name it Gaffer for good measure.
 

KimDongHwan

Member
Personally, after the crazy art director's tirade against Musk, I'm just curious whether there's anything special going on with the default character or set-up:
I think after this event they must have updated the character creation to avoid any more controversy that would hurt sales. Imagine once the first batch of review codes gets out and the first news is that it's forcing they/them as default pronoun or something like that
 

DavidGzz

Gold Member
Is this not day and date for PS5? Guess the shitposts make more sense then. The graphics and the combat look great to me.
 
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