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Avowed Tops out around 16K Concurrent Steam Players on Release Day
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HeisenbergFX4
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Not worth it 
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Topher
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Killjoy-NL
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Subjectively*
You need to be friends for 'friendly fire'.Yeah quite crazy to me, fanboys are attackingHeisenbergFX4 , guy was the loudest advocate for PS5 Pro, isn't this friendly fire?
For some weird reason people always seem to think that the PS fanbase on Gaf is one single front that's always on the same page.
For the record, I am in no way attacking Heisenberg.
HeisenbergFX4
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Nahh I have been labeled a PS hater because I am not crazy about Sony's first party output this gen.Yeah quite crazy to me, fanboys are attacking
DownLikeBCPowder
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Yep. And now retroactively, I guess Pillars of Eternity and the sequel are "in the same corner as Concord", too. I mean, look at all these Concord vibes.
nah! you said
"the character design is nowhere even close man."
and people shoved twin sister receipts to your nose. that's what happened
Killjoy-NL
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Then you misinterpreted my post.No, you were talking about flops and you said Indy "isn't" one.
I was saying Avowed is in the same corner as Concord. Both have the same Woke vibe and shit character designs and are/were barebones games, although each in their own regard.
Indy is a failure as well, but it doesn't seem to suffer from the above, it's just mediocre-looking in every way and failed because of it.
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Topher
Identifies as young
That wasn't clear in your post, but if you say that's what you meant then fair enough.
HeisenbergFX4
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Nahh I don't mind disagreeing with someone as I just wanted clarification on how you came about your conclusion
I took your post totally differently as well if I am being honest, fair enough
DownLikeBCPowder
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Can you provide some more that isn't the same image people keep posting? One character? That's of a certain race, of which fur is common?
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Reizo Ryuu
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woke, bad game obviously.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Ultra woke, Concord prequel.
so character design is actually close then?
Topher
Identifies as young
That "twin sister receipts" is being overly played. You've got two females with similar colored hair. That's about all there is. I'm playing the hell out of Avowed and there is no Concord "vibe" here.
DownLikeBCPowder
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No? If anything, Concord design is similar to Pillars universe design, for one character. This is sad.
Irobot82
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POE I had way more muted colors than POE II. POE II was based in an archipelago.Yep. And now retroactively, I guess Pillars of Eternity and the sequel are "in the same corner as Concord", too. I mean, look at all these Concord vibes.
Still two of my all time favorite games.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah quite crazy to me, fanboys are attacking
HeisenbergFX4
an anti PS guy, the guy single handedly maintaining the Pro thread on GAF.
HeisenbergFX4
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I have played some Avowed but don't get that comparison either but then again I didn't buy and play Concord
DownLikeBCPowder
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Yeah, it definitely did have much more muted colors - but there were certainly colorful scenes in Pillars. I prefer Pillars to Pillars 2, personally. But point being is that Avowed really isn't on some special crusade - people just have no knowledge of the source material and make themselves look like buffoons, IMO.
Mr Moose
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Hmm, I kinda agree with the shit character design part (though I haven't seen anything about this game recently). Last time I saw it I thought the characters didn't fit in with the world and most look shit, especially the green (blue?) fish guy.
Indiana flopped, which is a shame because it's meant to be good. Good games deserve sales. Shit movie didn't help at all.
DownLikeBCPowder
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If you don't think they fit the world, you haven't played the previous games. That's fine if you feel that way, but that race and the world were designed together.
Aumaua
Aumaua are one of the civilized races that inhabit Eora. There is great ethnic diversity between Aumaua in different regions of the world. In Pillars of Eternity two sub-races of Aumaua appear, namely Island aumaua and Coastal aumaua. The aumaua are a race of large, semiaquatic humanoids with a...
pillarsofeternity.fandom.com
Irobot82
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Pillars I is my favorite as well.
I'm still leery about buying Avowed. Maybe when it's $30-40. It just doesn't look worth anything near $70.
geary
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Avowed is taking place in the Living Lands, a place in the universe from 2015 since the first game. It's in the intro map.
The naming is suggestive regarding the island color palette.
SmurfMustard
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Just shows whatSo what is scary is I just looked at Steam numbers for Concord and wait for it
James Sawyer Ford
does when he is not trolling in Avowed threads.
DownLikeBCPowder
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It's a good game. Not sure it's worth 70 USD though. I'm currently playing on a $1 gamepass two week trial, but loving the game.
LectureMaster
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Not saying everybody needs to be on the same page, but coming to Avowed thread relating it's Concord level failure is just absurd.
Yes, I was dunking on Avowed day one since the Matrix Hansen thread, I am probably a bigger PS fan than many here, but I think it's absurd.
Killjoy-NL
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I already explained what I meant by that.
LectureMaster
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Mr Moose
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I haven't played the previous games. Graphically they fit? I don't know, I think it was last year during the Xbox show, I thought they seemed off. Haven't really paid much attention to it since then (or maybe I was drunk at the time).If you don't think they fit the world, you haven't played the previous games. That's fine if you feel that way, but that race and the world were designed together.
Aumaua
Aumaua are one of the civilized races that inhabit Eora. There is great ethnic diversity between Aumaua in different regions of the world. In Pillars of Eternity two sub-races of Aumaua appear, namely Island aumaua and Coastal aumaua. The aumaua are a race of large, semiaquatic humanoids with a...
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
These are very similar numbers. Tho those numbers are prob fine for pirates to be successful. They make somewhat niche game and they make them very efficiently and cheaply. If anything this shows the issue is western companies keep continually making niche games for niche demographics that only have appeal in certain circles, but keep spending massive budgets on them, that its actual audience size cannot meet. There is an audience for something like avowed, or dragon age veilguard. It’s just small. If that’s the sort of game a dev wants to make, that’s fine, just spend accordingly, otherwise you are literally setting your companies or investors money on fire and it’s tantamount to gross incompetence, which I guess is quite often quite rightly rewarded with being fired. That doesn’t undo the damage to the company tho, or the corresponding IP.I downloaded Avowed, was gonna play and then saw my manKacho was playing pirate Majima. Didn't know what I was thinking but somehow I caved in and bought the Yakuza game instead.
And obviously this had a more profound consequence than I could fathom:
LectureMaster
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LectureMaster
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P:axMagellanic
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Good, dogshit setting.
LectureMaster
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Absolutely agree on efficiency and sustainability about Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio. But I don't think Avowed is exactly the same situation as Veilguard. I haven't played yet, but it seems the game is nowhere near as preachy as Veilguard.
Other than the pronoun controversy, Avowed probably isn't a ideology driven game, just a 7 - 8 out of 10 game that is perfectly suited for game pass. Unlike Bioware, I think Obsidian will survive this.
DownLikeBCPowder
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I mean, it's arguable. It's akin to asking if Hobbits "fit" in LotR. Or the orc creatures. It's a high fantasy setting that they conjured from thin air, so really it's up to the player to decide, but it's not something they cooked up for Avowed. There were plenty of Aumaua in the first game, there are even two that can be in your party, though only one is a "blue" coastal like Kai.
But if you're asking if they fit into the world as I understand it from the first two games - yeah, nothing seems unusual here. It looks especially great aesthetically by that metric, IMO, as a Pillars fan. Particularly the environments. What doesn't look great are some of the regular humanoid character models - animations, face, etc aren't perfect. But, eh, I don't really care personally. A lot of the things people are on about, I just don't care (slashing at a random cup on a table doesn't move it.. ok, most games do NOT have physics down to the cups like Elder Scrolls, it's just a fact, etc).
However, if someone hadn't played the first two games and just looked at screenshots from this game, I could easily see how they might jump on the "omg woke design!!1" train, but it's an erroneous conclusion to draw, IMO.
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bender
What time is it?
Yep. And now retroactively, I guess Pillars of Eternity and the sequel are "in the same corner as Concord", too. I mean, look at all these Concord vibes.
Same corner! End of!
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PeteBull
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Its very ideology driven, tons of feminists/women in the dev team, check avoved review thread-we showed plenty examples of game being woke/feminist/anti-men.
Its not as blatant as da:v or concord, marketing team was much smarter this time coz they were afraid of terrible sales(hence lastminute option to diseable pronouns even), still playerbase isnt as easy to trick into buying woke shit nowadays, as we see by extremly low ccu on steam, and undoubtfully 0 sales numbers announcements and future very low placement or no placement in sales charts over the world
Devs know already that game flopped, hence making dmg control interviews/articles about them being fine with game only being "mild success"
U made thread about it, so u should know best, bro.
SEGAvangelist
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It's very much not a AA game, IMO.
Buggy Loop
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Yep. And now retroactively, I guess Pillars of Eternity and the sequel are "in the same corner as Concord", too. I mean, look at all these Concord vibes.
/s
Really showcases the peoples who have never touched a cRPG or PoE series. Their loss.
Topher
Identifies as young
If demand is low then price is too high. That's how things work. So the question is why is demand low?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My man dropping truth bombs.
So what is scary is I just looked at Steam numbers for Concord and wait for it
bender
What time is it?
By the logic you presented the price is too high but I think that assumes a bit too much.
Raven117
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Nope. Objectively. You objectively incorrect by any conceivable metric. (That’s not to you, Down)Yep. And now retroactively, I guess Pillars of Eternity and the sequel are "in the same corner as Concord", too. I mean, look at all these Concord vibes.
And lol! Gawd damn! Concord is everywhere!
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