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Avowed Tops out around 16K Concurrent Steam Players on Release Day
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Topher
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No doubt. All we can do is make assumptions here, I think.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I loved it. It’s the closest we’ll get to another Infamous at this point, sprinkled with The Neverending Story. If you can get past the opening three chapters of exposition and walk n talk I think you might enjoy it. I found it to be one of the best podcast games, the combat is cool and satisfying once it clicks and Frey is actually one of the more likable female protags out there. Good use of haptics too.
Enough derailing from me but you should def give it a shot especially if it doesn’t cost you anything.
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bender
What time is it?
Well, go buy your lady a nice hat and grab some Taco Bell on the way home. Wrap up the hat box nicely and give it to her after you've finished the #9 combo. She'll be grateful of course but your true aim was to have a nice hat box to take a shit into. Once you have that in hand, create a listing on eBay for your shit in a hatbox with a buy now price of $90. Once the auction fails to get any bids, are we to assume that you set the price of the auction too high or that it wouldn't have sold no matter the price?
Topher
Identifies as young
We have competing assumptions then
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
bender
What time is it?
Shaki12345
Member
For somebody who hasn't played the game, you sure have an opinion.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
bender
What time is it?
Fess
Member
16 hours in now. I’m enjoying this much more than expected. Even with the lackluster interactivity and static world. It’s no threat to Bethesda’s games for me but it’s still great. Starting to really dig the script and conversation possibilities now. Just hoping any of it actually matters in the end.
Topher
Identifies as young
Yep. As I said before, I think it is fine to point out the warts in this game and just say "yeah, that's how it is", but if I'm still having fun with it then it doesn't really matter. I'm around 23 hours now and cleaning up quests in the first area. Looking forward to moving to the next.
Radical_3d
Member
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Agree, I like the dialogue and etc more the further I get into the game.
Shaki12345
Member
This game will have long legs because of good word of mouth. Especially when it goes PS. I'm sure it'll do just fine.
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Denton
Member
Good luck with that.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Look at the defense force at work.
PoE isn't the same as Avowed, is it?
It's okay to like mediocre Woke games.
I liked Concord for what is was as well.
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Also, for comparison:
This was in it's first week.
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Fess
Member
100% agreed, it’s got plenty of warts but it’s okay since it’s still fun to play.
Are you going to the new area after doing the ambassador stuff and after meeting the inquisitor?
I got a quest that say travel to -don’t remember the name- at the right side of the first map. I decided to do side quests after that because the fights started becoming really tough. Just want to get an idea how much there is left of the first map.
Raven117
Gold Member
I’m not defense forcing shit. Im pointing out that you are wrong. You are wrong to do what you are doing. You are pushing some culture war agenda. You and all of your ilk (yup… you and the wokes are equally as tiresome and childish) are ruining video games.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Wait, are you accusing me of being anti-Woke?
I thought I was Woke when I didn't hate on Concord?
Anyway, you think I'm wrong. I don't think I am.
Darkness_Arises
Member
In the new 70$ normal, price cuts and Steam sales don't hit the way they used to earlier. This game does not have regional pricing and is more expensive than MH Wilds on Steam (India). I am assuming it is the same globally. I will get it 2-3 years down the line when it hits 20$ or less (~1500 INR).Hey.....how about an on topic post...
Seems the game is leveling out sub 19k. Not a great showing. I imagine the price will get cut sooner, rather than later.
Fess
Member
They aren’t going to axe a team from looking at the Steam CCU numbers. GP will pull in the majority of players, especially on a 8/10 game where you normally think ”I’ll buy on a sale”. Microsoft probably have they’re own internal math equation to judge popularity through total multi platform player count, new GP subscribers, how long people are playing, maybe even social media talk.
Plus Obsidian have The Outer Worlds 2 coming out too. And probably something else. It’s one of Microsoft’s most prolific teams.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Sounds more like an attempt to retain users, rather than gain users.
If COD couldn't move the needle for GP growth, Avowed most certainly will fail in that regard.
Sales will also be very low, so it doesn't seem like a sustainable business.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Agreed. People are too attached to old ideology when it comes to a games success. That and in the case of Avowed, they are mostly mindless warriors.
Denton
Member
Social media talk does not pay salaries, neither does playtime. Of course MS looks at all kinds of metrics, but in the end two things matter:
- how much did the game sell compared to what it cost
- how many new GP subscribers did the game bring to our service
And, based on known numbers, it stands to reason both of those are abysmal.
And no, I do not think MS will shut down Obsidian (though if they did, I would not be surprised, Hello Tango!). But there might be some soul searching being done.
Darkness_Arises
Member
Their prolificacy and versatility is phenomenal. Outer worlds, Grounded, Avowed, Dungeon Siege 3, PoE, Pentiment cover a wide variety of genres. It is a hugely varied portfolio, which really helps MS gamepass appeal to a greater audience. I realise that Dungeon Siege 3 is not well-known or loved but it is my favourite Obsidian game, so I had to include it.
It would be extremely shortsighted of MS to even think about shutting down Obsidian.
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Mister Wolf
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If Microsoft will sign off on shit like Hellblade 2 then they can let Obsidian make POE3 in UE5. Especially after the success of BG3.
Fess
Member
No idea but they do PS5 ports and Switch ports now and sell on Steam day 1, so should be in a better position than 5 years ago.
They’ve talked about having a big release every month but never managed that. But COD(oct), Stalker 2(nov), Indy(dec), Ninja Gaiden(jan), Avowed(feb), South of Midnight(apr), DOOM(may). Things are getting better! Supposedly The Outer Worlds 2 is a 2025 release as well, but I have my doubts there considering how little they’ve shown.
Sebastian1295
Member
Let's just be blunt about avowed. Avowed is a double A game that's a perfect gamepass game but fails to move the needle in any direction for xbox as a whole or gamepass. You can have games like avowed on your subscription service because there's always a place for a game like avowed on it, but the problem is that you need bigger and more premium games at the top of your subscription service pulling the weight so that a game like avowed isn't being relied upon to carry the load.
Microsoft/xbox have failed to produce enough high end premium games to bolster gamepass which in turn means that games like avowed, hellblade 2, etc are being propped up as triple A premium releases when they simply were never going to be that and should've never been expected to be that. The failure to produce high end premium games screwed avowed because said failure meant that the expectations for avowed were increased ten fold and it was never going to reach them.
Microsoft/xbox have failed to produce enough high end premium games to bolster gamepass which in turn means that games like avowed, hellblade 2, etc are being propped up as triple A premium releases when they simply were never going to be that and should've never been expected to be that. The failure to produce high end premium games screwed avowed because said failure meant that the expectations for avowed were increased ten fold and it was never going to reach them.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Those titles aren't big successes, or won't be. They'll sell decently at best.
Indy, Avowed are flops, even (as will South of Midnight be).
The only redeeming factor could be Playstation sales and possibly Switch 2.
Granted, 3rd party publishing will be a good option for MS, but that line-up will only be viable short-term.
If it took SoT 4 months to get to 1M sales on PS5, I honestly don't see any of those titles, outside of COD and maybe Doom, doing much better.
Certainly not long-term.
And if Obsidians goal going forward is to aim for 'mild successes', I doubt they'll last long if their next game is a flop as well.
Can't imagine MS' patience not growing thinner with each release.
Fess
Member
You’re talking about flops but we don’t know what metric Microsoft are looking at to judge a success, somehow I doubt it’s Steam CCU…
Anyway they’ll do more day 1 releases on PS5 going forward, will probably be on Switch 2 as well when possible, those are huge userbases their games didn’t have before. I think things will be fine.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Ulimately, it's going to be all about revenue, whether it's sales or GP.
I don't believe for a second anyone here truly believes games like Avowed and Indy are financially viable.
And GP is a dead end, we all know it.
Denton
Member
This level of willful ignorance must be intentional.
Do you just assume everyone else is retarded?
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Insanemaelstrom
Member
It's funny you say that when by almost all metrics Spiderman 2 and horizon forbidden west are far better games than the game that is actually free to play on a sub, imo. Far more successful games as well in almost every metric.Sony’s overhyped open world slop? Yea entirely combined. It’s comparable to marvel fans thinking that it’s amazing cinema , big sales big hype, pure braindead content.
Sony’s historical best especially in older days? No
Even if spider-man 2 and horizon forbidden west was gifted to me for free, I wouldn’t even install. I prefer my games fun.
In fact I come from a KCD 1 play through just a week ago with 75 hours in. While it’s a masterpiece in a sense and the genre it is trying to achieve, I’m having more fun and I’m more hooked to Avowed’s 20h of time spent so far than anytime in KCD even though there is a list of flaws in avowed. Fun is fun, regardless of checklists
Swinging in Spiderman is pure unadultered joy, hunting giant robot dinosaur always remains pure fun. Shame your bias makes you blind to fun games.
vaibhavpisal
Member
If budget of game was 40 million, then 500k sales and gamepass revenue should make the game viable.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Was Avowed budget $40M?
N30RYU
Member
Tbh I wanna see the numbers when MS release a game I would purchase on PS5... and I don't mean filler gamepass games none is willing to give them money for... I mean the big ones... Gears and Halo on a PS5... this will be the metric 'cause not an Avowed, Indy, hellblade2 or Starfield will give MS the actual numbers for them to see the real deal
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vaibhavpisal
Member
panda-zebra
Member
It's this kind of compelling weaving of themes and exploitation of narrative mechanisms that Obsidian has completely forgotten the art of.
tronied
Member
Are people still arguing in here about sales and desperately trying to make this into a win / loss for one team of another? I recently bought Marvels Spider-Man on Steam and have been really enjoying it. Great game, missions and gameplay deserving of its high praise. This has now come out and Spider-Man has been put to one side as I'm really enjoying this. Thing is, just let go of your affiliation and you'll have a lot more fun. Games are there to be played and enjoyed and should not be conditional on which billion / trillion dollar company you support. People are obviously enjoying it so why try to stir things up? If it's not for you then no problem, play something else.
On a somewhat related note for some of you, stress is one of the leading causes of chronic illness which can lead to things like cancers and other health complications. I know some of you stir for fun but it you do get wound up by posting, just chill out and enjoy some games.
On a somewhat related note for some of you, stress is one of the leading causes of chronic illness which can lead to things like cancers and other health complications. I know some of you stir for fun but it you do get wound up by posting, just chill out and enjoy some games.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Hope so for their sake, but it would also explain why Xbox 1st party output has been mediocre af and it doesn't show confidence in the Xbox division.
That's pretty much full-on damage control, all things considered.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Killjoy-NL
Member
So far it's not really that impressive, let's see how it holds up over the next week since the game is quite short, I think we'll start seeing an outflow of people from Monday. But overall the game is showing worse on Steam than Pillars of Eternity, games in the same setting, and yes I know they'll immediately write about the gamepass. But here we have a situation where an Action game aimed at a mass audience competes with a 2.5D turn-based old-school RPG, there are significantly fewer fans of this genre. Although the second part of the game, as far as I remember, did not live up to expectations and was considered commercially unsuccessful, which is why they actually started having problems.
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Pillars of Eternity
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
vaibhavpisal
Member
I see. So no specific quality then.
Its all arbitrary, depending on which platform game is on?
Killjoy-NL
Member
Because it's all mostly subjective.
And platform doesn't matter, because Playstation has it's own mediocre flops like Concord and Lego Horizon.
If you want to see what makes Avowed mediocre:
vaibhavpisal
Member
I wouldn’t have noticed this stuff if you hadn’t posted it here.
Just like I don’t expect this stuff in From Soft games.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Ofcourse you wouldn't have. You're probably getting paid not to notice it.
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