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[S0ULZB0URNE]

Yes, I would prefer the original tone in the revealed trailer.

This and the multiplayer.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Well it's a shame they let it all run wild for 3 years then, both internally and externally.

2018 by the way:

Avellone called it. Went from being "Skyrim", to something else entirely, and then finally the POE version of the outer worlds, but worse.

LMAO holy shit where the hell was this posted and how do you know about it

 

[Rentahamster]

No wonder the original trailer looked so different. I wonder what the issue with that vertical slice was.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Well it's a shame they let it all run wild for 3 years then, both internally and externally.

2018 by the way:

Avellone called it. Went from being "Skyrim", to something else entirely, and then finally the POE version of the outer worlds, but worse.

Chris is always on-point and always with receipts. Too bad that a lot of his warnings fell out on deaf ears.

 

[CoreyFlawless]

Oh I definitely think Obsidian is an AAA dev. But I'm just joking fun at some Xbox bros who on another thread were saying Obsidian is a smaller dev and independent before aquired by Microsoft therefore AA.

I mean, they really not wrong with that saying

 

[GHG]

LMAO holy shit where the hell was this posted and how do you know about it

Rpg codex. Avellone posts there along with a bunch of other current and former RPG devs.

 

[RagnarokIV]

It was Jan. 6, 2021, and Obsidian’s big day was being overshadowed by a riot.

I was on a massive wine bender last night, my head is proper fucked lol but not even that has done as much damage to my brain as reading that cringe political insert

 

[Team Andromeda]

I can tell you that this has already happened with Hellblade 2, Avowed, and even Indiana Jones to an extent, there are definitely games I'm missing there too. the way this loop keeps happening has to relate to how MS plans marketing campaigns for games now, it's impossible that the same scenario happens with 2-3 very different games unless it is.

I can tell you now. You haven't played it. And unless you've been living in a cave with Trolls everyone could see what Avowed was like in the Xbox Games Showcase 2023.

And its also not like lots of games get rebooted lets all remember what RE4 looked like when it was 1st shown off or what about Doom 2016 or Conkers back in the glory days of gaming

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Honest question: has a single studio known for doing single-player story-driven RPGs been able to transition into a successful live-service multiplayer game?

I'm just sitting here wanting a game like Skyrim that is just co-op. No special shared world with a HUB, just myself and a few friends going through a big open world doing anything in whatever order.

Bethesda with Elder Scrolls Online?

 

[GymWolf]

2 reboots huh?

RIP in pieces to those who attempted to gaslight people by telling them it's the same as the original trailer.

Do people ever tried that narrative?

 

[GymWolf]

Their standouts this gen:

Forza Horizon 5
Hi Fi Rush
Indiana Jones

That’s literally it. They have serious QC issues. Hopefully Doom does well like the list above

Wasn't forza horizon 3 or 4 also praised by people and media?

 

[rkofan87]

Its obvious it was intended to be a Borderlands type game with co-op. The director said as much when she stated it was intended to have online play. They managed to salvage a decent game out of it. I'm certain Outer Worlds 2 has been the studio's primary focus.

i hope so love outer worlds.

 

[winjer]

Six years to develop such a bare bones game, is impressively bad.
It also means that the development cost is probably in the range of 150 Million.
They are never going to make their money back at this rate.

 

[Astray]

They didn't 'leave people to ponder' for 3 years, the game got rebooted twice in that time, that's quite literally what the article is about. They showed the game when it was in a state to show in '23 and it still took then 2 years after that to release it. It was probably not in a state to show between 2020 and 2022.

Then maybe don't hype consumers up on something you don't fully have nailed down?

Which again, is a chronic Microsoft issue. They did this with so many games it's honestly insane.

The notion of missing all media on a game you're interested in playing for 5 years is absurd enough as it is ..

But the user in question talked about Avowed both in the January '24 Direct topic and the Showcase Summer '23 topics, so he definitely saw the game.

Being casually interested in a game (which is the vast majority of people, even ones who watch showcases) doesn't mean that you signed a soul contract to watch and read everything posted online about it.

I can tell you now. You haven't played it. And unless you've been living in a cave with Trolls everyone could see what Avowed was like in the Xbox Games Showcase 2023.

And its also not like lots of games get rebooted lets all remember what RE4 looked like when it was 1st shown off or what about Doom 2016 or Conkers back in the glory days of gaming

I mean I haven't been hiding the fact that the art design change put me off the game completely and made me uninterested in playing it, so I'm unsure about the point you're trying to make here about me living in a cave or whatever.

My point is, only one company has this shit happen repeatedly to them, and at some point they might want to revisit how they market games and present them to the public.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Bethesda with Elder Scrolls Online?

Bethesda didn't develop it.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I mean I haven't been hiding the fact that the art design change put me off the game completely and made me uninterested in playing it, so I'm unsure about the point you're trying to make here about me living in a cave or whatever.

My point is, only one company has this shit happen repeatedly to them, and at some point they might want to revisit how they market games and present them to the public.

My point is you're the typical troll who's got a lot to say about a game they haven't played and that's to look over the fact that many games completely change their look from inception to release (hello Wave Race 64) and also to overlook how it was very clear how the game looked way back in 2023

Their standouts this gen:

Forza Horizon 5
Hi Fi Rush
Indiana Jones

That’s literally it. They have serious QC issues. Hopefully Doom does well like the list above

It's your opinion I happen to think you can add a few more to that list.

It is a shame so many look over how brilliant Psychonauts 2 was for starters.

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[adamsapple]

Being casually interested in a game (which is the vast majority of people, even ones who watch showcases) doesn't mean that you signed a soul contract to watch and read everything posted online about it.

At this point it just feels like you're being contrarian for the sake of it. If someone's seen the game progress through 2023 and 2024, it makes zero sense that at launch they wonder why it doesn't look like the announce trailer 6 years ago and where its current 'colorful' art style come from. It has nothing to do with 'signing a soul' or whatever.

It is a shame so many look over how brilliant Psychonauts 2 was for starters

Conveniently also removed from that The Game Awards nominees list that gets thrown around often.

Strange.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Bethesda didn't develop it.

Yeah, nvm. It's a Zenimax game.

 

[Horseganador]

And it shows in the final result, it lacks many details that similar games already had more than 10 years ago.

 

[Lunarorbit]

Wasn't forza horizon 3 or 4 also praised by people and media?

Crazy that tango got let go by MS. I thought they had just shuttered but a south Korean company bought them

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I really like the game but since it's getting shit on everywhere and I usually prefer to follow the crowd I'm going to give the game a low 6 out of 10

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

let's go!

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Their standouts this gen:

Forza Horizon 5
Hi Fi Rush
Indiana Jones

That’s literally it. They have serious QC issues. Hopefully Doom does well like the list above

Being a PS player, I would highly recommend you to play Avowed over Indiana Jones.

Would borderline recommend skipping Indi, taste and all.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Being a PS player, I would highly recommend you to play Avowed over Indiana Jones.

Would borderline recommend skipping Indi, taste and all.

In other words, Avowed was a bigger financial flop and needs to recoup money more than Indy?

 

[ungalo]

I really like the game but since it's getting shit on everywhere and I usually prefer to follow the crowd I'm going to give the game a low 6 out of 10

it doesn't deserve more than that

 

[BigBeauford]

Finally someone in the comments noticed that. If Jan 6th caused this big of an emotional upheaval for this studio then this game was always fucked.

Imagine being an adult and unable to work on Jan 6th. When 9/11 happened, I was a young teenager who had to go to school, AND still had football practice after.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

In other words, Avowed was a bigger financial flop and needs to recoup money more than Indy?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Given everything up to this point in the article, a 'big day' would be massive layoffs or the company closing down. Rebooting after two years doesn't seem disastrous or disruptive.

Also that day was just a regular work day for us. Imagine the fragile tenuous grip on reality these people have where this meeting had to be scheduled a week later... Jeez

Weak men create hard times.

 

[ByWatterson]

They rescheduled a super important all-hands meeting because of January 6!!!

 

[Denton]

Well it's a shame they let it all run wild for 3 years then, both internally and externally.

2018 by the way:

It's incredible how Avellone is right about...everything.
I now believe everything he wrote on codex about Obsidian.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Being a PS player, I would highly recommend you to play Avowed over Indiana Jones.

Would borderline recommend skipping Indi, taste and all.

I cannot get into Avowed at all. I do not like Bethesda Skyrim / Starfield type games, and this looks like a poor man's version of that with a Concord skin.

Indy is far more up my alley. Wasn't that your GOTY last year?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It is a shame so many look over how brilliant Psychonauts 2 was for starters.

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I tried it for a few hours and bounced. Didn't grab me at all. Maybe I didn't give it more of a chance but it felt like a drab saturday morning cartoon with boring gameplay.

 

[Truthtellers]

Could've done with a third.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I tried it for a few hours and bounced. Didn't grab me at all. Maybe I didn't give it more of a chance but it felt like a drab saturday morning cartoon with boring gameplay.

Ok Jim

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

They rescheduled a super important all-hands meeting because of January 6!!!

It's absolutely insane to read that. I can't believe the article starts that way and uses it as some kind of justification for whatever action they took (or rather didn't).

I cannot get into Avowed at all. I do not like Bethesda Skyrim / Starfield type games, and this looks like a poor man's version of that with a Concord skin.

Good thing it's not really like Skyrim. I've never played Concord, but based on what I know of it, not sure how it's name is even brought into the conversation with Avowed. Avowed is also not aggressively DEI as best I can tell, though there are some occasional elements.

Indy is far more up my alley. Wasn't that your GOTY last year?

Indiana Jones does look amazing, too bad I have a shitty (well, not really, just old) GPU.

I tried it for a few hours and bounced. Didn't grab me at all. Maybe I didn't give it more of a chance but it felt like a drab saturday morning cartoon with boring gameplay.

So you thought the combat was boring? How far was "a few hours" ? Whereabouts did you get to and what exactly was boring? Do you like games in this style?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

So you thought the combat was boring? How far was "a few hours" ? Whereabouts did you get to and what exactly was boring? Do you like games in this style?

Hmm, I can't really remember. I beat the first area which was like inside of a mouth or something.

I do like Platforming games in general, so it's not an issue with this genre, but this one just seemed too bland for my tastes.