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Destiny 2 (PC/XB1/PS4, Sep 8) CG reveal trailer, pre-orders, gameplay debut May 18th

Yeah you could buy a "legendary edition" when TTK came out that was TTK and both DLCs for $40 or something.

If you had all that stuff, you could still get TTK digital for $20 IIRC

E: Also, it might be $20 now, but it was $40 at launch for that bundle

TTK was 40 dollars by itself, if you already owned Destiny and DLC 1 and 2.

There was no option to buy it for 40 dollars with them. That version was 60 and included the base game as well.
 

Rainmaker

Banned
Most of the people complaining about the "tone" I can only assume don't / haven't played Destiny in the last 2 years. Its the only explanation really.



68 GB, holy damn

I played over 859 hours of destiny. This Cayde was amped up to 1,000. They went way too far in the other direction. The Taken King was lighthearted and there were a couple of (eye-roll worthy) winks and nods to shit but never "LOOOOT!" Opinions and all of that but most of the community would've defended this if it was a picture of the poop emoji. Also, I loved Destiny even with its flaws and it did get better but don't pretend these people didn't nickel and dime you a million times.
 

Lima

Member
Damn! How convenient..

They used to not charge until a few days prior to release and allowed you to cancel either through the website or the console here in Europe.

People abused it to get free themes and other pre-order shit (fucking roaches man) and Sony changed it to the way it works in America. Sucks.
 

Ghazi

Member
Yeah you could buy a "legendary edition" when TTK came out that was TTK and both DLCs for $40 or something.

If you had all that stuff, you could still get TTK digital for $20 IIRC

E: Also, it might be $20 now, but it was $40 at launch for that bundle

You're misremembering. Taken King was $40 for owners of all previous DLC and the vanilla game. The Legendary Edition was $60 and came with TTK and all previous content, it was the intended package for new players.
 
Really didn't like the trailer, nor am I hyped about the games premise.

Hopefully the gameplay reveal will recapture the space fantasy mystery and fun that pulled me in.
 

Drewboy64

Member
I played over 859 hours of destiny. This Cayde was amped up to 1,000. They went way too far in the other direction. The Taken King was lighthearted and there were a couple of (eye-roll worthy) winks and nods to shit but never "LOOOOT!" Opinions and all of that but most of the community would've defended this if it was a picture of the poop emoji. Also, I loved Destiny even with its flaws and it did get better but don't pretend these people didn't nickel and dime you a million times.

This.
 
Ah yes.

The Ubisoft sequel model of "people thought we where a little dry in the first game so lets add HUMOUR AND MEMES and get all self referential!"



Great.....
 
That's a weird thing to already know though, right? Or at least an oddly specific number to plan for at this stage.

The game is just a little over 5 months out, with a public beta already scheduled. Safe to say, this game is almost certainly content-locked, so they have a pretty good idea on how much free memory you'll likely need at launch. I also imagine that is taking into account a reserve that might be needed in the first few months or so after launch, for whatever updates they have planned from Oct.-Dec.
 

Bold One

Member
Everything you mention there just help Cayde's comedy routine stand out even more as contrast.

Not to mention several of your points are scenes 2-3 seconds long. While Cayde was talking for pretty much have the trailer, and almost all of the teaser.

Its not a comedy routine that is his natural cadence. He is not doing an open mic night in front of the crumbling city - he's trying to rally guardians - hence the contrast with the more serious Zavala who actually underlines the seriousness of the situation.

Cayde is at the forefront because he is a fan favourite and one of the only characters in the Destiny universe with some personality.
 
Ah yes.

The Ubisoft sequel model of "people thought we where a little dry in the first game so lets add HUMOUR AND MEMES and get all self referential!"



Great.....

The Ubisoft character everyone requires to call an Assassin's Creed/Far Cry/Watch Dogs game good is the first thing that I thought of. If it doesn't have that snarky irreverent character it can't be a good game! /s
 

KiteGr

Member
There are Franchises that leave me un-interested...
...And there are those that I actually hate!

Destiny owns me money!
I bought this thing at launch, and it offered what other games call "a sample" or "a Demo".
I thought that it might had been in some sort of beta state where they would patch the rest of the game later, and instead I figure they where just planning to sell the rest in pieces for ridiculous prices.
I thought that I might give it another go about two proper expansions later where the content would be enough to justify a 60 euros price, and they announce a discontinuation of the vanilla franchise!
I thought that I would see some major gameplay and mechanic improvements in the Destiny 2 trailer, and it ended up being a CG just doing an impersonation of Deadpool.

It's a game I wanted to like, but it ended up as a corporate experiment on how much can they ask for how little.
 

Gold_Loot

Member
Guys, it's a teaser.

The point of the teaser was to show the tone difference between the characters. These characters have been this way since day one. The Taken King just fleshed Cayde out more.

Maybe we should, oh ya know, wait until we play the game ?
 
What's your cut-off point for "drive by bitchers"? Because it seems to have gone from "anyone with a negative opinion on the trailer" to something very specific.

As for the trailer working, that's subjective; the trailer didn't work for me but it can work for others.

I'm not going to go through every post that represents it and I think my message has been pretty consistent. I elaborated on it since my first comment can be construed as a drive by bitch about the bitchers so it's what it is. You don't have to agree with me and that's fine.
 

BLCKATK

Member
Guys, it's a teaser.

The point of the teaser was to show the tone difference between the characters. These characters have been this way since day one. The Taken King just fleshed Cayde out more.

Maybe we should, oh ya know, wait until we play the game ?

Nah dude, we gotta jump to conclusions on the writing after seeing 1:30 seconds of it.
 
Yeah I'm gonna hold off on buying the legendary edition this time. Gonna see if it's a loot grind again pass the final level. From the looks of it though you're gonna have to buy all the expansions to keep playing the game. Not really for my benefit, but I will keep a look out as this trailer has definitely peaked my interest.
 
This "2" is the same as the one in the concept art leak from before

Official
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Leaked Concept Art
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Which probably means the leak of 3 of the sub classes was real too

Spear Hunter
Destiny2_5F00_2.jpg


Shield Titan
Destiny2_5F00_3.jpg


Fire Sword Warlock
Destiny2_5F00_4.jpg
 
There are Franchises that leave me un-interested...
...And there are those that I actually hate!

Destiny owns me money!
I bought this thing at launch, and it offered what other games call "a sample" or "a Demo".
I thought that it might had been in some sort of beta state where they would patch the rest of the game later, and instead I figure they where just planning to sell the rest in pieces for ridiculous prices.
I thought that I might give it another go about two proper expansions later where the content would be enough to justify a 60 euros price, and they announce a discontinuation of the vanilla franchise!
I thought that I would see some major gameplay and mechanic improvements in the Destiny 2 trailer, and it ended up being a CG just doing an impersonation of Deadpool.

It's a game I wanted to like, but it ended up as a corporate experiment on how much can they ask for how little.

this all basically amounts to "i bought a game blindly without doing any research, and i didn't like it. since i didn't like it, i will rage about it for years, and you'll have to listen to it."
 
Yeah I'm gonna hold off on buying the legendary edition this time. Gonna see if it's a loot grind again pass the final level. From the looks of it though you're gonna have to buy all the expansions to keep playing the game. Not really for my benefit, but I will keep a look out as this trailer has definitely peaked my interest.

Yes, it will be a loot grind. That's essentially the entire point of the game. Yes you will need the DLC to continue progressing. If you don't want to do either of those, Destiny is not the game for you. End of story.
 
Are they sticking with just 3 classes with sub classes?

Because one of the main things I hoped for in the sequel was a few entirely new classes.

Aside from Watch Dogs 2, what other examples of this are there?

Watch Dogs 1 to 2
Far Cry 2 to 3
Assassins Creed 1 to 2

(outside of Ubisoft)

Borderlands 1 to 2
GTA4 to 5
Could toss in the change in most Bioware games tone over the years into this bucket too.

Devs get called out for being a bit dry so they just add a bunch of PERSONALITY and in-jokey that isnt bad on its own but its been done it so many times that it feels so unnatural and predicable. Probably because the target audience for is so similar so writers are probably told to just browse r/gaming and come up with a script to appeal to that audience.
 

thumb

Banned
"Oh man, our friends died and our homes were destroyed BUT THINK OF THE PHAT LOOTS GUYZ!"

DESTINY 2: FRIENDS DEAD, PHAT PURPS LFG

Will there be microtransactions for better writing?
 
You're misremembering. Taken King was $40 for owners of all previous DLC and the vanilla game. The Legendary Edition was $60 and came with TTK and all previous content, it was the intended package for new players.

TTK was 40 dollars by itself, if you already owned Destiny and DLC 1 and 2.

There was no option to buy it for 40 dollars with them. That version was 60 and included the base game as well.

The Legendary Edition was $60 and replaced the base game army retail and on digital marketplaces. And since the DLC was mandatory to play TTK it ended up being cheaper to buy that bundle and technically own the base game twice than just buying the DLC and TTK. $40 just got you TTK and the option was completely unavailable at retail and was impossible to purchase digitally if you didn't own the first two DLCs.

Ahhhh, missremembering indeed. $20 more than I remember.

Thanks.
 

orborborb

Member
Loved Destiny, but couldn't stand The Taken King story missions because there was no way to mute Cayde without muting all the audio. If that's still the case I'll stick to Crucible.
 

riotous

Banned
Borderlands 1 to 2
GTA4 to 5

Devs get called out for being a bit dry so they just add a bunch of PERSONALITY and in-jokey that isnt bad on its own but its been done it so many times that it feels so unnatural and predicable. Probably because the target audience for is so similar so writers are probably told to just browse r/gaming and come up with a script to appeal to that audience.

Borderlands 1 had tons of humor... no more or less than 2.

Same with GTA4 and 5; all GTA games have had humor.
 

Drewboy64

Member
You're all getting worked up over one character. One fucking character.

Why wouldn't you wait for the gameplay reveal before judging the game as a whole?

Fucking hell...

I mean, it's the overall tone that people are talking about. Obviously there will be more to say once they reveal gameplay, but after being burned by Destiny 1, people are viewing all of these trailers with skepticism and caution, because we don't want to shell out a bunch of money for a game that ends up disappointing.

And, uh, sorry for discussing a game on a game discussion forum, i guess?

this all basically amounts to "i bought a game blindly without doing any research, and i didn't like it. since i didn't like it, i will rage about it for years, and you'll have to listen to it."

People did research, but Bungie falsely advertised the game. They showed footage of stuff that was never put into the original game (or even the game in its current state), said it would be an open world MMO, etc.

Also, plenty of people who gripe about Destiny also love many aspects of the game. If people didn't like the game, they wouldn't be invested enough to discuss and critique it. You can enjoy some aspects of a game while still critiquing other glaring problems in it.
 
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