Kacho
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That video is depressing. We had it so good back then. Weekes was a good talent in the 'before times'.
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Dragon Age: Veilguard releases with over 70k concurrent players on Steam and 'Mixed Reviews'
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That video is depressing. We had it so good back then. Weekes was a good talent in the 'before times'.
Mattdaddy
Gold Member
I was referring more to them using Dragon Age as a platform to deliver a lecture on hot button political/culture topics. If Dragon Age grossly underperforms, maybe theres less of a chance that stuff makes its way into the ME game.
Now whether or not they still have the chops to make a great Mass Effect game period, I dont disagree its likely they dont lol.
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Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Won't get into all my issues with the game, most of them are mentioned multiple times through these 32 pages...
I do think the environments are fucking incredible. From a fantasy perspective they are Chefs fucking Kiss good IMO. I played a side quest last night that was "hard to find" (it wasn't) but...it was fantastic. It was lore heavy, and the writing was 10,000% different in tone and execution compared to the core "linear" portion of the game I had played up to that point (about 7 hours in).
It most certainly feels like there was a great game there at some point (well a great game for me I guess) and some of that shows through in areas that are not overshowed by the main storylines dialogue presentation and abysmal character "personalities".
On a side note...this is the first game I have ever played on a 4k display over 120hrz that just let me choose "ultra" all the way down the settings page and it runs like a dream. It is insanely well optimized....so much so I think they just spent 10 years on the environments and system tech (i mean...frostbyte so yeah) then 2 months on the story and dialogue "choices".
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touchfuzzy
Member
Hmm yes I wonder what could've happened between then and now...
Trick Weekes - Wikipedia
Found it.
Shouldn't have spoiled the fun you'll have with such crafted piece of work that is the dialogue, have fun...
If they added mastectomy scars in a fantasy game where fking magic could fix crap, imagine whatever mind numbing stupid "current age" thing they can add in a futuristic game where you get to interact with other planets and races
And if DAV flops, I don't think there will be a Bioware at all, also what's left to sell to the audience when they made flop after flop
Topher
Identifies as young
Shouldn't have spoiled the fun you'll have with such crafted piece of work that is the dialogue, have fun...
I mean......I know about the nonsensical woke stuff that has been shown, but I'm just talking about the other normal banter. So far it is fine.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Didn't know he changed to "Trick." Wow. His stuff in Mass Effect was pretty good, too.Hmm yes I wonder what could've happened between then and now...
Trick Weekes - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Found it.
You've got to turn tricks if you want to stay employed as a White man in that industry these days
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Hmm yes I wonder what could've happened between then and now...
Trick Weekes - Wikipedia
Found it.
I always found that interesting since he's been happily married with two sons for over a decade now...
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
It's a safe play right?
Already married with kids almost out the door, why would you care what anyone thought of your partner and how you run your relationship at this point? Just change your bio and have several years of job security and probably promotions to boot. Climbing the corporate ladder just looks different now? Not saying this person is a grifter or doesn't have strong convections around how they identify but...
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Superkewl
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Kacho
Gold Member
I just assume he’s a weird / eccentric guy who bought in on current day identity politics because of his social circle. It’s not genuine.
Topher
Identifies as young
If he has lived on the west coast all these years and has embraced that culture then I'm really not surprised. For me, everything I read about that area......sounds like an entirely different country. Probably why I hear so much about folks moving elsewhere.
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Kacho
Gold Member
He’s definitely a product of his environment like most of these people. Put him in an area detached from it and he likely doesn’t change. Identity politics is the new goth for weirdos.
Conflict NZ
Member
After 9 days Veilguard has not appeared on either the US or the UK Xbox top 50 most played games. It updates weekly so that’s a sign it is not doing well. This is in line with the game doing poorly on Trueachievements, only reaching 25th there which is based on amount of players.
xenosys
Member
I think it's probably done well over a million. The Steam analytics suggest it's sold slightly better than Metaphor.
Metaphor sold over a million in a day, and hasn't cracked the top 10 on PSN for October in the US or EU. Dragon Age is also above it on both PSN charts despite it only having 1 day worth of sales data.
Metaphor sold over a million in a day, and hasn't cracked the top 10 on PSN for October in the US or EU. Dragon Age is also above it on both PSN charts despite it only having 1 day worth of sales data.
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Diatribe1974
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At this point in time, Its fairly safe to say that the Bioware that once was, is no more. I'd had high hopes for Dragon Age and Mass Effect, but I think I'll probably skip them both from what I've seen the "Future of the franchise" has been with Dragon Age (and now that that team is is on Mass Effect), and Mass Effect.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Hmm yes I wonder what could've happened between then and now...
Trick Weekes - Wikipedia
delishcaek
Member
Steam analytics don't suggest that it sold slightly better, they suggest that it sold worse.
Like Metaphor averaged 50k-ish players throughout the whole launch week, Veilguard only 35k-ish. The dotted line is the average.
Veilguard also doesn't look all that hot going into the 2nd weekend.
I wish we had tracking like this for consoles, I wonder how it did on PS5 and Xbox.
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ChorizoPicozo
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it's nice that the quality of the game is speaking for itself. and actual gamers and long-time fans of the series are rightfully pointing out how and why the game is shit.
Unknown Soldier
Member
We could guess it was underperforming already, I'm sure this game wasn't cheap to make and they probably had Inquisition-like expectations for it
Inquisition ended up selling 12 million and EA probably thought this would be similar but it's looking more like Inquisition was a fluke
Kacho
Gold Member
It still hasn’t appeared in the top 50 most played list on Xbox. For what it’s worth.
Darkness_Arises
Member
I do not see any reason to compare Metaphor to DA:V. Metaphor was made on a budget of peanuts and it shows in the game. Nobody is praising Metaphor for the OMG so great hair or lovely vistas. If these 2 games sold the same, one of them is a mega bomba. Also, Metaphor will get the usual Atlus treatment of Reload, Anniversary, Golden, Royal versions further extending the full-priced sales with minimal effort.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Obviously, they feel happy, proud, stunning, and brave.
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Plague Doctor
Member
The comments are savage. Yeah.... this is razzle dazzle bullshit by EA and it ain't sticking.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I’m actually glad we don’t. Player count hype and politics isn’t something that needs to spread any further.
Bernardougf
Member
Hardly any. Just wanted to get some screens to show how it looked on Pro. I'll be playing more in a bit. Low expectations for the writing/story, obviously, but I hear the gameplay is good.
Wish I could ignore shitty stories and enjoy the ride ... it would open up more things for me to enjoy .. but my brain just dosent work like that anymore... I did in early life and was able to enjoy some really bad movies lol .. but for quite some time I just cant.... for any kind of entertainment...
Outside ANIME ... anime for some reason I can ignore the stupid writing for the fun of it, I think is the absurd of all that makes more easy to do it and the lack of woke influence in most of them.
I guess the problem with games is that now days they take everything too serious and with "real life problems and politics" and the writing with all this DEI writters and tropes is atrocious so ignoring this plus the usually written errors is pretty fucking impossible.
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Bernardougf
Member
Oh this brings back memories from TLOU2... then after is the post with all those woke media awards.
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Phobos Base
Member
The Thieves Guild don't steal things because that would disrespect other cultures
Oh believe me, that's only half the trouble, there are a ton of such moments. Let's say there is a faction of Antivan Crows in the game, actually a faction of hired killers, at the mention of which people in the world of DA simply start to panic and they run away in horror. In fact, a faction of ruthless killers for whom human life is worth nothing at all, and if you sign a contract with them for a person, he is dead without options.
Not only is this faction now unable to protect its leader (Top Secret Organization), but now we have another party member from this organization, Lucanis Dellamorte. There will be a plot spoiler below, I will hide it, but if you go through his plot -
I'll try without big spoilers just in case, he has a demon sealed inside him, we help him (His relative will be to blame... what a surprise... Who has been spying for a long time and dumping information to enemies) and the player will have a choice - attention... let him go (he is a relative, you can't kill him...), or put him in prison... A truly bloody order of assassins, who have killed thousands of people on order before, including people of the first magnitude in the kingdom, will either let the person go or put him in prison... If you make one decision in the dialogue before this, you will not be able to let him go, you can only put him in prison.
I'm just honestly shocked by how the story and dialogues are written in this game, and oh my god how many inaccuracies and blunders there are in it regarding the lore of the game...
MayauMiao
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thefool
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Johnny Concrete
Member
“Old forgotten ruins and crap”.
Yea, you’re really selling this world to me..
Remember the good old days when fantasy writers were inspired by the works of Tolkien, instead of Twitter?
Nickolaidas
Member
If you don't mind characters in a grimdark medieval fantasy setting talking and sounding like heroes from an MCU film, you won't have any real issues.
Jaybe
Member
Did he delete these ones too? Jason Schreier has gone unhinged. I think Concord, Outlaws, and Dragon Age has broken him down to lashing out to defend his ideological aligned buddies in the business.
Topher
Identifies as young
Generally I'm the same way. If a story is shit then I usually have little motivation to keep going. If Veilguard's writing overall is as shitty as the clips we've seen then I won't last long.
I don't think there will be any special problems if you just don't pay attention and don't delve into the plot, then yes, stupid things will pop up. The game is perceived much simpler and easier if you don't know the world of the game and haven't played the previous parts. Well, perhaps, except that the dialogue wheel that appears, the answer options on it will not always coincide with what the character actually says. That's why sometimes there may be moments when you want the character to say one thing and he says something completely different.
Game is too kind and soft, so it is perceived as a fantasy fairy tale, if you don't really go deep. This is directly in contrast to the same DAO, where in the first 30 minutes of gameplay, if you want, you can kill one of your first companions (Sten), and then later in the story, kill another one if you want to (Zevran). And there are many other bad things you can do in the game. There were even walkthroughs of the worst decisions in the game.
It was a very warm and kind game for its time. ^_^
Kacho
Gold Member
Fallout 4 had the same problem. They have a story to tell with specific characters so you’re left with very little agency.
Fake
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Humdinger
Gold Member
Smash JT confirming through a separate source (this one at Bioware, he says) Endymion's earlier report about a high level of returns. Also, both sources estimate that the game has sold about 500K. Take it fwiw. It's still unconfirmed rumor, but there are two sources now.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
FFS I expected Veilguard to be somewhat woke and cringe but it’s so much worse than I ever expected. This is getting into Dustborn territory where it’s so artless and heavy handed that it’s indistinguishable from parody.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
Half a million copies? That's too low even for this trash. On a Concord flop scale, it would score around 0.4 to 0.7 Concords.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Yeah I tried giving the small benefit of a doubt for Dustborn when I first saw videos of it on youtube. Thought it was a parody at first too until I saw the dev. Games like Dustborn and Veilguard are what people think the crazy woke lunatics are like and sadly they really are like this which makes it even worse. Not surprised now that I see how completely twisted and insane most of the woke nutjobs are like.
In the past woke shit would just seem off and a bit weird from normal sane people but now it's so bad that it should have been a parody or a joke but it's not lol.
I think it definitely sold more than that, even more than 1 million. But for a big budget western and well known rpg. Even 3 million as their first week announcement would just be borderline okish at best. Their message about this having a chance to be borderline breakout would be them thinking it'll be a smash hit like what Skyrim or Witcher 3 was DURING their time let along now in 2024. So 50% of them probably thought it'll be a big surprise over 10 million copies sold within a week or something. Probably would have if they didn't include any of this crazy shitty garbage and got better writing like Witcher 3 when it first announced.
Sure is, it's higher than yesterday, there's no stopping this trans train now
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