I think this is more of a Horizon 2 situation, with the last gen version being a down ported game, as oppose to a Halo Infinite style cross gen game.
Hmm...I wonder if these guys are working on an RPG, by chance?....
Anyway yeah, this game looks flippin' phenomenal. This the kind of gameplay showcase Halo Infinite needed last year (and this year; maybe they'll do one closer to launch). Right up there with FS 2020, Rift Apart, Demon's Souls remake and Forbidden West for best-looking games either out or coming by end of the year.
Gran Turismo has a LOT of work to do to catch up with Forza now, between this and Forza Motorsport proper (which should look even better than Horizon 5 if that's even possible). Best of luck, Polyphony Digital!
You could well be correct here. What they showed earlier was unbelievable
I believe that PD is above and beyond with their presentation, but I also believe that it does not matter Horizon > F: Motorsport so the battle is not really about PD vs Turn 10, but Turn10 vs Playground Games. FH is just on another level, with....everything. I hope that Sony do some "party Grand Tourismo", because I think that these games offers a ton of fun time. And yes due to scale, they obviously cannot compete with the detail in GT games.
You can also expect powerful, all-new graphical features like HDR captures of the vibrant Mexican sky, sweeping vistas, and an unparalleled attention to detail. Available in 4K 30 FPS on the Xbox Series X (1080p 30 FPS on Xbox Series S) with an optional 60 FPS performance mode, and ray tracing added to cars in Forzavista, you will be immersed in the open world of Horizon like never before.
Forza.net: The official home of Forza
Official site for Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon gamesforzamotorsport.net
No raytracing in gameplay, even at 30fps.
GT7 so far?
And those from youtube's compressed video, not direct feed
It still look very nice, despite the aggressive pop in/out and no raytracing. It's better to wait for both games to release then compare before spouting outrageous claims, although both are kinda different with one being arcadey open-world and the other circuit sim racing. Also GT is much bigger and one of the largest, most pristine eSports in gaming.
In any case, this the the best game shown so far on their conference.
Where does it say 30fps on Series X?i wonder what the resolution will be for the 60fps mode as it says it’s 4K 30fps on series X and 1080p 30fps on series S.
Also what is everyone’s total game time on forza horizon 4? i have 479 hours on it
right here.. https://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/Forza-Horizon-5-Coming-to-Mexico
On self relfections i agree but its also not good in Driveclub, in photomode it gets better but in gameplay it fals apart. And the same goes for the paint job in game the paint shaders are not as good and have this weird muted tone to them. But i agree with you that Forza should have proper ray traced self reflections in game, thats the only thing that bothered me in 4.I have no luck with different paint materials in forza. It looks like grainy texture instead of complex mulilayer shader for me.
Also Forza cars really need self reflections and properly self shadowing(especially rear lights self-shadowing) like this
I agree with this, but I am honestly blinded by all of that gameplay goodness, I think it looks great and for me this is like a "close to my heart" experience. I agree that it could be better, however FH2 > FH3 was a massive jump, so I hope for this too. I rather take the game now with these constraints than wait. I admit that when it comes to this game, I cannot be objective, this franchise means a ton of good memories for me and I simply don't care about this sort of stuff.
I agree with this, but I am honestly blinded by all of that gameplay goodness, I think it looks great and for me this is like a "close to my heart" experience. I agree that it could be better, however FH2 > FH3 was a massive jump, so I hope for this too. I rather take the game now with these constraints than wait. I admit that when it comes to this game, I cannot be objective, this franchise means a ton of good memories for me and I simply don't care about this sort of stuff.
I know I should, but:
yeah it looked great but i want to see the 60fps mode, that’s what mode i will be selecting on series X.
That is something where Polyphony Digital always excells.
Not to start console wars but Polyphony Digital doesn't need any luck when it comes to creative a photorealistic racing game. These guys are obsessed with detail and it shows in their games.
We have seen the gameplay footage of GT7 also with low rez shadows pop in and there was also no sign of ray tracing in game. Also GT7 isn't even comparable to Forza Horizon 5 in its current state the environments alone look a generations apart and the ray tracing in those garage scene's and replays are all low rez and low poly. But it would be fair to compare it against Forza Motorsport, both are closed circuit racers at 4k60. This game is in a league of its own.
You can also expect powerful, all-new graphical features like HDR captures of the vibrant Mexican sky, sweeping vistas, and an unparalleled attention to detail. Available in 4K 30 FPS on the Xbox Series X (1080p 30 FPS on Xbox Series S) with an optional 60 FPS performance mode, and ray tracing added to cars in Forzavista, you will be immersed in the open world of Horizon like never before.
Forza.net: The official home of Forza
Official site for Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon gamesforzamotorsport.net
No raytracing in gameplay, even at 30fps.
GT7 so far?
And those from youtube's compressed video, not direct feed
It still look very nice, despite the aggressive pop in/out and no raytracing. It's better to wait for both games to release then compare before spouting outrageous claims, although both are kinda different with one being arcadey open-world and the other circuit sim racing. Also GT is much bigger and one of the largest, most pristine eSports in gaming.
In any case, this the the best game shown so far on their conference.
For GT its a case of less variety but higher quality and it's the opposite for Forza but you're spot on. Both are good and have their own unique strengths and weaknesses.
Those GT7 textures belong on PS4, of course they gonna run that at 4K60 with RT lol. And comparing a track racer to open world racer? I can only smh. Show me another open world game doing 60fps RT on consoles..
GT7 so far?
And those from youtube's compressed video, not direct feed
It still look very nice, despite the aggressive pop in/out and no raytracing. It's better to wait for both games to release then compare before spouting outrageous claims, although both are kinda different with one being arcadey open-world and the other circuit sim racing. Also GT is much bigger and one of the largest, most pristine eSports in gaming.
In any case, this the the best game shown so far on their conference.
couldn’t tell from the twitch stream, so the footage of gameplay was the 60fps mode with ray tracing?
Er the gameplay demonstration is clearly 60fps. Even the trailer is 60fps.
You realize there are 2 high quality vids of the demo and gameplay in this very thread right?, check the OP.
i’ll watch the 4k versions on youtube tomorrow as i’m on my phone atm, game looks great anyway. can’t wait to rip round mexico in a supra
That's a very blurry picture lol. The cars in GT7 look impressive, but the environments look really unimpressive and lack detail. Horizon 5 textures are miles ahead of GT7 even though it's an open world game. Polyphony does usually improve the looks with time so let's wait and see.Gt7 looks...lol
Pop-in was barely noticeable compared to GT7 or even the recent Horizon Forbidden West showing. I'm yet to see any new game without pop-in. Only Unreal showed a demo without pop-in, but that was a demo.
Like i said to the other guy, there are 2 4k high bitrate vids in the very first post of this thread you have been posting in lol.
It actually took me a while to notice the pop in, and thankfully is further out than most games.
had to go watch the vids i couldn’t wait haha but yeah definitely is much smoother than the footage i saw on twitch. do you think it’s 1440 or 1800p 60 for performance mode then?
Bruh they don't care bout the game, he just here to talk this crap don't take him serious
He calls the environment low res lmfao
They didnt say what rez the 60fps mode is, probably because its not final yet.
Strange of you to make such a big deal out of pop-in in a game that has it the least out of all cross gen and next gen games we've seen, especially an open world one at that.
Bruh they don't care bout the game, he just here to talk this crap don't take him serious
He calls the environment low res lmfao
