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Eevee86

Member
Torn between the fact that you are supporting a criminally underrated game and the fact that you are wrong.


Yeah, a mess considering that the definitive experience is on Wii U, though it seems like everything that was censored was just silly fan-service at least. Not a fan of censorship but no actual game was lost as far as I am aware.
Nope. Switch load times make it the better version by far.
 

Woopah

Member
I agree that announcing things too early is a bad idea, but I'd also say there's a middle ground that would be perfect. Announce games 12 - 5 months in advance so people have an idea of what's happening in the future, without the wait feeling like it's taking forever. Personally I would have been happier if the Mario Direct happened earlier in the year, and if AoC had been announced around E3. The way they went about things, it was like we didn't have anything to look forward to at all in 2020.

Personally I'd rather have these structured Directs that you can expect to come out every so often, rather than chaotic, random anbouncements whenever Nintendo feels like it. That's just my preference though. And well, random and chaotic describes Nintendo's Directs for the past few years anyway.


Too bad they censored it. It was a fun little game otherwise. Enjoyed my time with it.
Now that Nintendo has had time to react to the pandemic I expect them to return to a more traditional Direct structure by the end of March.

Last year the virus threw off all their marketing plans (we know the Mario event was originally planned to take place in April for example).
 
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Keep telling yourself that.
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I see you're using your Corona-time well.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Now that Nintendo has had time to react to the pandemic I expect them to return to a more traditional Direct structure by the end of March.

Last year the virus threw off all their marketing plans (we know the Mario event was originally planned to take place in April for example).
Do we know? I feel like common sense backs that up, though. It would make so much more sense to sell the Mario stuff for the full one year anniversary, than just half a year until this March.
 

Woopah

Member
Do we know? I feel like common sense backs that up, though. It would make so much more sense to sell the Mario stuff for the full one year anniversary, than just half a year until this March.
Yes, for one of the anniversary events Nintendo forgot to change the dates from April: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2...35_plans_may_have_been_delayed_by_five_months

Fits in with what several people had been hearing and explains why Paper Mario wasn't in the March Mini Direct.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
2020 timeline was definitely changed. They did have plans to start the Mario 35th celebration in April and run through March of 2021. It would have aligned with their fiscal calendar. That's why there is a magic March 31 date on everything right now.

I don't think the 2020 releases were too different though than planned though. With the exception of Bravely Default 2 and perhaps Mario 3D World I think everything that was planned to release in 20 did. The timing of everything was off but it all got out the door.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
So, this
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has been way more cool than I ever expected.

I found a stack at Christmas, in Walmart (I’m not sure if I’m lucky, or if Nintendo is actually being cool with providing lots of stock on collectibles), and impulse bought it with some of my gift money. I wasn’t really sure if I was buying something neat that I’d play once and put in a drawer forever, as the meme goes with these retro throwbacks and collectibles.

...In actuality, I’ve been playing it just as much as my other new games, lol.

I just find something cool about it. It’s super portable, even pocketable if you want to do that (same depth as a phone). Cool looking/nostalgic. Sleeps and wakes instantly like the Switch. Has a better working Instant Resume/game switching than the Series X. The controls take some getting used to, but feel quality once you do. The quite small screen looks great. The speaker is LOUD.

And of course, Super Mario Bros. is a really fun game (we will see on 2, lol) with an arcade/real game nature that makes it perfect for this. And likewise. Those big chonker pixels look so much better shrunk down to a small screen, than they do playing out on a 6” screen or 50” TV in 2020. Nintendo even possibly messed with the colors? It looks really vibrant and good.

The whole package, despite being a seemingly bizarre mish-mash of two separate things (What exactly does the Game and Watch have to do with Mario’s anniversary?) just works as a fun, nostalgic way to pick up and play Mario anywhere. Even the G&W involvement makes more sense after a while, seeing as it’s just 2 games. I don’t know if it’d work as well for say, The Legend of Zelda, being a more involved, not so much pick-up-and-play game, but it’d possibly be really fun to see a whole collection of these.
 
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MagnesG

Banned
Tokyo Mirage Sessions 2 was the thing that made the 4chan leak obvious bait, unfortunately. There's no way in hell we'll see a TMS2. It bombed even by Atlus' standards.
But I could see a Fire Emblem #TMS, where we get a Fire Emblem-like game with Shin Megami Tensei characters/units and a bit of J-PoP maybe, utilizing the Fire Emblem name...
It could happen if Nintendo says so. I mean, we have games selling lower than 300k but kept coming back.

Really hope Nintendo gets the message this time. Anything franchises similar to this (Xeno, Fire Emblem, BD) could flop hard with any hints of obvious censoring.

NoA can be shit sometimes.
 
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So, this
AKUh5a6.jpg

has been way more cool than I ever expected.

I found a stack at Christmas, in Walmart (I’m not sure if I’m lucky, or if Nintendo is actually being cool with providing lots of stock on collectibles), and impulse bought it with some of my gift money. I wasn’t really sure if I was buying something neat that I’d play once and put in a drawer forever, as the meme goes with these retro throwbacks and collectibles.

...In actuality, I’ve been playing it just as much as my other new games, lol.

I just find something cool about it. It’s super portable, even pocketable if you want to do that (same depth as a phone). Cool looking/nostalgic. Sleeps and wakes instantly like the Switch. Has a better working Instant Resume/game switching than the Series X. The controls take some getting used to, but feel quality once you do. The quite small screen looks great. The speaker is LOUD.

And of course, Super Mario Bros. is a really fun game (we will see on 2, lol) with an arcade/real game nature that makes it perfect for this. And likewise. Those big chonker pixels look so much better shrunk down to a small screen, than they do playing out on a 6” screen or 50” TV in 2020. Nintendo even possibly messed with the colors? It looks really vibrant and good.

The whole package, despite being a seemingly bizarre mish-mash of two separate things (What exactly does the Game and Watch have to do with Mario’s anniversary?) just works as a fun, nostalgic way to pick up and play Mario anywhere. Even the G&W involvement makes more sense after a while, seeing as it’s a single game. I don’t know if it’d work as well for say, The Legend of Zelda, being a more involved, not so much pick-up-and-play game, but it’d possibly be really fun to see a whole collection of these.

My only complaint is where is the kickstand?
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Both the Famicom Detective remakes were scheduled for this year too, though they were never confirmed to leave Japan.
Yeah, didn't mention those since they were Japan only. Not sure if they are delayed because of covid or just normal production delays. Really hope they bring the remakes and Buddy mission to the US.
So, this
AKUh5a6.jpg

has been way more cool than I ever expected.

I found a stack at Christmas, in Walmart (I’m not sure if I’m lucky, or if Nintendo is actually being cool with providing lots of stock on collectibles), and impulse bought it with some of my gift money. I wasn’t really sure if I was buying something neat that I’d play once and put in a drawer forever, as the meme goes with these retro throwbacks and collectibles.

...In actuality, I’ve been playing it just as much as my other new games, lol.

I just find something cool about it. It’s super portable, even pocketable if you want to do that (same depth as a phone). Cool looking/nostalgic. Sleeps and wakes instantly like the Switch. Has a better working Instant Resume/game switching than the Series X. The controls take some getting used to, but feel quality once you do. The quite small screen looks great. The speaker is LOUD.

And of course, Super Mario Bros. is a really fun game (we will see on 2, lol) with an arcade/real game nature that makes it perfect for this. And likewise. Those big chonker pixels look so much better shrunk down to a small screen, than they do playing out on a 6” screen or 50” TV in 2020. Nintendo even possibly messed with the colors? It looks really vibrant and good.

The whole package, despite being a seemingly bizarre mish-mash of two separate things (What exactly does the Game and Watch have to do with Mario’s anniversary?) just works as a fun, nostalgic way to pick up and play Mario anywhere. Even the G&W involvement makes more sense after a while, seeing as it’s just 2 games. I don’t know if it’d work as well for say, The Legend of Zelda, being a more involved, not so much pick-up-and-play game, but it’d possibly be really fun to see a whole collection of these.
It is really neat. Mine is in a cabinet right now but I play to play through at least one of the games on there. Perhaps SMB2 as I prefer that to SMB (blasphemy I know). I wish they were releasing G&W titles proper. This was just a recycle of Ball. I would like to play the Zelda title one day.

Nintendo even possibly messed with the colors? It looks really vibrant and good.
TKOFromTokyo TKOFromTokyo should you break the news about NES palettes or should I?
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Evangelion Unit-01 Evangelion Unit-01

You can do it. That’s a can of worms that I’m afraid to open.
Oh man...
Palettes?
Basically the TL;DR is the NES produced video in such a way that makes it impossible to map it to a specific RGB value. With hardware variances and non-standard composite video there isn't a perfect NES color out there. Enthusiasts have created a ton of palettes that are all "correct" as a result. Devices like the Analogue NT let you select and load different palettes depending on your preference. Nintendo's official releases have used several palettes from release to release. People have put a ton of time into this and there is way more information online about them than anyone should ever care to read.

Here is an example, the sky in SMB is super noticeable. The issue here is none of these are technically incorrect...there is no ultimate NES palette. I'm sorry that you must now share this pain.

You are best-off reacting with the triggered emoji and moving on with your life.

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-Arcadia-

Banned
Oh man...

Basically the TL;DR is the NES produced video in such a way that makes it impossible to map it to a specific RGB value. With hardware variances and non-standard composite video there isn't a perfect NES color out there. Enthusiasts have created a ton of palettes that are all "correct" as a result. Devices like the Analogue NT let you select and load different palettes depending on your preference. Nintendo's official releases have used several palettes from release to release. People have put a ton of time into this and there is way more information online about them than anyone should ever care to read.

Here is an example, the sky in SMB is super noticeable. The issue here is none of these are technically incorrect...there is no ultimate NES palette. I'm sorry that you must now share this pain.

You are best-off reacting with the triggered emoji and moving on with your life.

JQAsR4C.png
Yeah, that’s exactly it. My Game and Watch looked more like the picture second from the right, and I tried the Switch version only to be greeted with something that looked a bit like the left, and far worse.

What a weird situation. There’s no official, well, standard for color?
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Yeah, that’s exactly it. My Game and Watch looked more like the picture second from the right, and I tried the Switch version only to be greeted with something that looked a bit like the left, and far worse.

What a weird situation. There’s no official, well, standard for color?
Yeah I prefer that look as well. The bluer sky makes a lot more sense to me.

Not for the NES, no. The way it generates video, differences from system to system, and video signals that were outside of consumer standards prevent a standard. It isn't very straight forward unfortunately.
 
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Oh man...

Basically the TL;DR is the NES produced video in such a way that makes it impossible to map it to a specific RGB value. With hardware variances and non-standard composite video there isn't a perfect NES color out there. Enthusiasts have created a ton of palettes that are all "correct" as a result. Devices like the Analogue NT let you select and load different palettes depending on your preference. Nintendo's official releases have used several palettes from release to release. People have put a ton of time into this and there is way more information online about them than anyone should ever care to read.

Here is an example, the sky in SMB is super noticeable. The issue here is none of these are technically incorrect...there is no ultimate NES palette. I'm sorry that you must now share this pain.

You are best-off reacting with the triggered emoji and moving on with your life.

JQAsR4C.png
Some things I’d rather not know. It’s nice for things to be magical. Of course, with Evangelion Unit-01 Evangelion Unit-01 and TKOFromTokyo TKOFromTokyo around, I always find out the truth.
 

Clarissa

Banned
Are the Disgaea games any good? If I liked Final Fantasy Tactics, would I like Disgaea? I’ve been asking people, but no one ever responds. I assume either no one likes Disgaea that much, or they don’t like me that much.

I personally find Disgaea games to have too much rubbish going on. I prefer my tactical turn base games to be simple mechanically, yet challenging with a great story.

Disgaea games just throw so many bullshit mechanics at you and I'm turned off by that. But that's just me.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Are the Disgaea games any good? If I liked Final Fantasy Tactics, would I like Disgaea? I’ve been asking people, but no one ever responds. I assume either no one likes Disgaea that much, or they don’t like me that much.
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tl:dr do you like grinding forever? Yes? There ya go champ! I want to be excited for this new game but I'm not digging the art. Will prob get it later and only play it 30 hours or so. (That is like 1 minute in DisgayAH time)
 

Clarissa

Banned
Does your friend think the exact same thing?

He's excited about it. He hasn't heard of the Disgaea series prior to Disgaea 5 because it wasn't on any Nintendo system. He was pretty stoked when disgaea 5 was announced for the switch. Basically he's excited about any game coming to the switch. Especially if it's formerly a Playstation exclusive.
 
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Hudo

Gold Member
It could happen if Nintendo says so. I mean, we have games selling lower than 300k but kept coming back.

Really hope Nintendo gets the message this time. Anything franchises similar to this (Xeno, Fire Emblem, BD) could flop hard with any hints of obvious censoring.

NoA can be shit sometimes.
I hope so, man. I l really liked TMS, so I would be very interested to see what they can come up with for the sequel.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Nintendo is acquiring Next Level Games.

 

Hudo

Gold Member
Nintendo is acquiring Next Level Games.

Makes sense and Next Level Games have a lot of potential....maybe they can even help out Retro Studios.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
Oh man...

Basically the TL;DR is the NES produced video in such a way that makes it impossible to map it to a specific RGB value. With hardware variances and non-standard composite video there isn't a perfect NES color out there. Enthusiasts have created a ton of palettes that are all "correct" as a result. Devices like the Analogue NT let you select and load different palettes depending on your preference. Nintendo's official releases have used several palettes from release to release. People have put a ton of time into this and there is way more information online about them than anyone should ever care to read.

Here is an example, the sky in SMB is super noticeable. The issue here is none of these are technically incorrect...there is no ultimate NES palette. I'm sorry that you must now share this pain.

You are best-off reacting with the triggered emoji and moving on with your life.

JQAsR4C.png

Tbh that does rather make sense - and given we were all using CRT TVs which will have been wildly variable (before we even talk about people setting contrast and colour settings) by modern standards, we'll almost certainly all have had our own unique palettes.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
I made this petition to get Mario Party games online a while back

The goal: to send the message loud and clear to President of Nintendo, Shuntaro Furukawa that the Mario Party fans have spoken

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What time is PST? Wish they just had a countdown. Communicating in timezones is so unnecessary.
It's Pacific Standard Time (US West coast).

That means it's 9am East Coast, 2pm GMT & 3pm CET.

But I agree, I'd prefer they just used GMT as it's easy for anyone to work out their own time from that.
 
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Saruhashi

Banned
I agree that announcing things too early is a bad idea, but I'd also say there's a middle ground that would be perfect. Announce games 12 - 5 months in advance so people have an idea of what's happening in the future, without the wait feeling like it's taking forever. Personally I would have been happier if the Mario Direct happened earlier in the year, and if AoC had been announced around E3. The way they went about things, it was like we didn't have anything to look forward to at all in 2020.

Personally I'd rather have these structured Directs that you can expect to come out every so often, rather than chaotic, random announcements whenever Nintendo feels like it. That's just my preference though. And well, random and chaotic describes Nintendo's Directs for the past few years anyway.


Too bad they censored it. It was a fun little game otherwise. Enjoyed my time with it.

I think 12 months out would be the max for me.

There is really no need to be announcing games 2 or 3 or 5 years from launch.
Unless something goes horribly wrong late in development and it gets delayed.

When Nintendo did their thing for Metroid and Bayonetta 3 it felt a bit like they were setting themselves up for failure.

2020 was not a great year all round but I still have some hope that a lot of good stuff has just been delayed.
I hope so anyway.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
You take that back! He was a saint.

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Haha.

I liked the guys enthusiasm and knowledge and his fantasy direct lists would have been great if he didn't get uppity when people didn't agree with his lists or didn't think the upcoming games were all that bad.

I dunno why it's seen as seriously uncool to be just fine with the games you've got.
If I was pretty happy to see Xenoblade remastered coming to Switch then that should be fine.
Instead some people want to deliver a lecture about why it "doesn't count" and how I'm "defending Nintendo" for being OK with the stuff I've got.

The only game I've felt really negatively about in a long time is Cyberpunk 2077 and most of that comes from the fact that I bought it for Playstation. Luckily for me I have a PS5 but I for sure would have got it on PS4 and that kind of pisses me off that they basically put in a considerable effort to hide just how bad the game was on the base consoles. Hated TLOU2 but I bought and played it knowing damn well I wouldn't like it so that's on me.

I really don't get the concept that I must call out or criticize or demand things or else be labelled a "defender" or "fanboy".

It's just not really believable to me that you can't go to the eshop and see so many great games that you'd probably never be able to complete them all.
That's where the goalposts get shifted and we have to narrow right down the argument.
Indies don't count. Even though there are tons of amazing indie games and I swear handheld is perfect for a lot of the pixel art stuff.
Ports don't count. Even though many people didn't play those on Wii U and it's good to see them available.
3rd party ports don't count. Even though the option to play some older games on handheld is pretty appealing.
"Cartoony" games don't count. Just so we can get rid of Nintendos heavy hitters like Mario Kart, Breath of the Wild etc.

So I guess there are no games and I should go crying to Nintendo that they better have a goddamn Direct in January or ELSE!
 
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