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Gaming PC or PS5 Pro?

Please read below before voting. Which should I buy?

  • PS5 Pro

  • PC with Nvidia 4070 super


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Cakeboxer

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Of course Pc

- Don't pay for online gaming
- Lots of Pc exclusive games and mods
- Cheap Steam keys, many free games
- Get all Xbox games day1 (cheap with PC Game Pass), most if not all PS games come later
- Choose whatever input devices you want
- Choose whatever VR you want, even PSVR2
- Mouse + Keyboard are much better for many games
- Emulate almost anything
- Pc can be used for much more than gaming
- Upgrade whenever you want
- Much more settings than just "ugly performance or laggy quality"
- You get sexy hair and can touch yourself all day
 
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MAX PAYMENT

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I understand the emulation part, although even that is what i don’t do on my pc. Reshade is a hit or miss and i only used it for virtual photography, but in general i don’t want to fuck around a lot with games on pc other then some mods on steam itself.

The HDR part is pure nonsense. Consoles have HDR out of the box and HDR on pc is the worst so i don’t understand why someone wants to use that as argument? HDR on pc doesn’t come close to what the PS5 can offer. The PS5 can even do HDR on none supported games.
This is false. You can actually fix poorly implemented HDR in games on pc. Can you on console?

 
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Senua

Gold Member
I understand the emulation part, although even that is what i don’t do on my pc. Reshade is a hit or miss and i only used it for virtual photography, but in general i don’t want to fuck around a lot with games on pc other then some mods on steam itself.

The HDR part is pure nonsense. Consoles have HDR out of the box and HDR on pc is the worst so i don’t understand why someone wants to use that as argument? HDR on pc doesn’t come close to what the PS5 can offer. The PS5 can even do HDR on none supported games.
Never heard of RTX HDR huh? and before that was special k or even auto HDR

PS5 pro. Easy choice. PSSR won’t come on that PC
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hinch7

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Its seems you are already invested in the PS ecosystem. No reason to change unless you really dislike the direction Sony is going in or are unhappy with their output.

I'd say wait for some Pro reviews and time after its launch on Nov 7, however. You might find that you may not feel the need to upgrade for FOMO or whatever. It not like there's going to be any supply issues.
 
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AGRacing

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Modern games do experience rough PC ports in general. There are exceptions.

I tend to use my PC as a time capsule. I’ve been claiming free games for so long my library got insane very quickly.

You have to factor in the following.
A) no subscription service on PC
B) better sales and deals on PC
C) Quality free games everywhere on PC
D) Teraflops don’t matter. The 4070 with games that support DLSS will be more capable than PS5 Pro.
E) Sony without competition is historically the worst version of itself. And Xbox isn’t doing well.

BUT

No PC GPU can erase stuttering or bad ports… you will encounter that. Ironically the Sony ports have been great. Unreal Engine stuff can be a pain in the ass. New drivers for your GPU means more stuttering while playing as shaders compile again. It can be obnoxious. Wise developers bypass this issue entirely.

GTA6

You need to know what you’re doing to get around the odd issue with PC. There’s less of a “turn it on and play” vibe.

I’ve always used both. I recently sold my PS5 and could see myself going back potentially if GTA6 is incredible.

Good luck.
 

duck_sauce

Gold Member
I don’t think asking online whether you should buy a PS5 Pro or a gaming PC will give you a clear answer. You’ll always encounter two groups, each insisting that one is superior to the other.

Instead, ask yourself what matters most to you, and whether the features that are important to you justify the price of each option.
I can make strong arguments for both. I love the closed ecosystem of PlayStation and the simplicity of plug-and-play, but I also enjoy playing games on my gaming PC with a controller while relaxing on the couch while enjoying high end visuals.
 

GHG

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This guy at it again:








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Hrk69

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This guy at it again:








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UltimaKilo

Gold Member
PS4 games are greatly enhanced via "Boost Mode BC" on PS5 Pro, so it does not make any sense for him to restart his entire collection and ecosystem. If he has a PS4, those games play far worse on PS4 than a PS5 Pro.

The folks so gung ho on PC aren't being rational at all here. If he didn't have a collection, if he had more money to spend, if he enjoyed the PC experience with building/tweaking and sitting at a desk with a keyboard and mouse, by all means PC is probably for you. In his situation, it makes no sense whatsoever to go with a PC for his personal tastes. But to the PCMR zealots, there's no answer other than PC.

To be fair, he did not mention how much he could afford on a PC, so we do not know exactly which is a better fit for him.

I’m a console guy, but I have to admit the PC is increasingly the way to go. If he is limited to $900 budget and cannot hold off a year, then console is absolutely the way.
 

geary

Member
A lot of games that I have on Steam either don't allow controller at all or the menus require keyboard and mouse and only in game can I use the controller. So yeah reminds me how I hate PC for those reasons. Thanks for reminding me.
If your steam games dont have controller support, then they are not available on console. So options are bad. More games are bad.
 

James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
To be fair, he did not mention how much he could afford on a PC, so we do not know exactly which is a better fit for him.

I’m a console guy, but I have to admit the PC is increasingly the way to go. If he is limited to $900 budget and cannot hold off a year, then console is absolutely the way.

I dont think there’s any “increasingly”, the situation is basically largely unchanged for a long time with the same pros/cons for each side

You either like pc, like console, or like a little bit of both but nothing has changed
 
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RyanEvans21 you see he made a point and you made a counter point. Touche! Oh and thanks for mentioning more truth to the matter. I own PS1 PS2 PS3 PS4, PS5, over 450 games across those consoles. While on Steam I only own 32. What so ahtlas7 I buy a PC and than buy the same games I already have and thus waste my money? I don't think so. Why buy a PC when I already own the most games on PlayStation consoles?
to answer said question... because you already own a ps5, the pro will have better graphics but it doesn't mean that theres going to be pro exclusives. You don't have to throw away the console and you don't have to rebuy the games either... unless you want to, MGSV with mods was fun as hell.
 
If you work on pcs all day, pc is perhaps the worst option. Playing on pc is great if you work away from a desk and have some extra time to fiddle around which makes it ideal for kids and cave dwellers.

This will sound controversial but the graphical options offered by pc are for the most part not worth it. Barring cyberpunk, it’s a giant money pit with little payoff. I say that as someone who owns a very expensive pc and barely plays games on it. The best games worth playing on pc always show up on console even late. The so called eye candy never makes the game fun. Once you get to 60fps, everything over doesn’t make the game more fun, etc. You really begin to understand how much of a waste it is after purchasing a 4090. Perhaps the worst part is that the most graphically intensive games are console ports. Almost nobody creates a game from scratch for high end hardware. So in the end, you pay more money to run console games with after thought graphical settings shoehorned with into the game. You also get way more stutter, more bugs, too many launchers, etc.

If your goal is just to play the latest games, then keep it simple and just get a console. It’s the most cost effective way to play games. If you’re a child, then pc makes more sense because it’s a multi-utility device and gives them avenues to explore and learn. If you’re an adult with responsibilities, good luck convincing your significant other to sit away in another room playing pc games. Worse yet, good luck convincing them to allow you to put a pc in the living room.

Finally, there’s the argument made by the pc boys that it can do more things. They usually reference video editing(better and faster on mac), programming(better on Linux), music editing(better on mac), cheaper games(no longer the case depending on region), more options etc. While pc does provide more options, if it’s not something you were already doing in your day to day life, pc is useless. Those who wanted/needed a pc already have one. For most people, smart phones and tablets are sufficient for their day to day needs.

Long story short, get a console or in this case a ps5 pro. Pc no longer poses a convincing argument if the sole purpose is to play games. Back in the day, pc offered huge value proposition as big budget games were made to exclusively push the platform. That is no longer the case.
 

Thebonehead

Gold Member
Well seeing as the OP suddenly remembered he hated pc and has liked all the posts saying get the pro within an hour of posting this thread,

Even though I think you should just stick on playstation ... I voted for PC to spite you, as it just seems you wanted validation for buying the pro or a bit of classic gaf system wars.
 
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nnytk

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I own hundreds of games on Steam and during the last year I've played DaS3, EDF5 and Elden Ring with my coop friend.

I'm sick and tired of troubleshooting. I'm done with sitting behind my PC for work and gaming.
My system was bought in 2019 and is showing its age. I don't want to spend 2000 bucks on a top tier system that would last me 5-6 years.

PS5 Pro makes most sense for me. I decided in August. The pricing surprised me. But I'm all in on Sony/console gaming.

Biggest factor here was also MonHun Wilds being Crossplay. So me and my coop buddy can go hunting and exploring together ☺️
 
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DenchDeckard

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I think for you. Get the pro. You're heavily invested in sonys eco system and seem to want to play there.

Leave the pc for another time, if you decide to move over.

Hopefully the pro will deliver on plenty of patches for your games where a pc will just let you up the settings on every game you own. There's no confusion there.
 

UltimaKilo

Gold Member
I dont think there’s any “increasingly”, the situation is basically largely unchanged for a long time with the same pros/cons for each side

You either like pc, like console, or like a little bit of both but nothing has changed

From the perspective that now more than ever, developers are supporting PC, including all of Microsoft and even Sony 1st party titles, makes it more attractive than ever.

It’s the best time to ever be a PC gamer, of which I am not one.
 

James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
From the perspective that now more than ever, developers are supporting PC, including all of Microsoft and even Sony 1st party titles, makes it more attractive than ever.

It’s the best time to ever be a PC gamer, of which I am not one.

That’s not new though, been that way for many years at this point
 

Hrk69

Member
If you work on pcs all day, pc is perhaps the worst option. Playing on pc is great if you work away from a desk and have some extra time to fiddle around which makes it ideal for kids and cave dwellers.

This will sound controversial but the graphical options offered by pc are for the most part not worth it. Barring cyberpunk, it’s a giant money pit with little payoff. I say that as someone who owns a very expensive pc and barely plays games on it. The best games worth playing on pc always show up on console even late. The so called eye candy never makes the game fun. Once you get to 60fps, everything over doesn’t make the game more fun, etc. You really begin to understand how much of a waste it is after purchasing a 4090. Perhaps the worst part is that the most graphically intensive games are console ports. Almost nobody creates a game from scratch for high end hardware. So in the end, you pay more money to run console games with after thought graphical settings shoehorned with into the game. You also get way more stutter, more bugs, too many launchers, etc.

If your goal is just to play the latest games, then keep it simple and just get a console. It’s the most cost effective way to play games. If you’re a child, then pc makes more sense because it’s a multi-utility device and gives them avenues to explore and learn. If you’re an adult with responsibilities, good luck convincing your significant other to sit away in another room playing pc games. Worse yet, good luck convincing them to allow you to put a pc in the living room.

Finally, there’s the argument made by the pc boys that it can do more things. They usually reference video editing(better and faster on mac), programming(better on Linux), music editing(better on mac), cheaper games(no longer the case depending on region), more options etc. While pc does provide more options, if it’s not something you were already doing in your day to day life, pc is useless. Those who wanted/needed a pc already have one. For most people, smart phones and tablets are sufficient for their day to day needs.

Long story short, get a console or in this case a ps5 pro. Pc no longer poses a convincing argument if the sole purpose is to play games. Back in the day, pc offered huge value proposition as big budget games were made to exclusively push the platform. That is no longer the case.
This post reeks of someone who doesn’t know how to maximize their setup. Blaming the PC for being “useless” when the real problem is that you don’t know what you’re doing is a weak attempt to justify your poor gaming experience. If you can't handle the complexity and potential of a PC, sure, stick to your limited console. But don’t pretend that consoles are somehow superior because you gave up.

Saying that graphical options and high frame rates “don’t matter” after 60fps is just plain ignorance. Anyone who has experienced gaming at higher frame rates knows that it vastly improves gameplay. If you’re too blind to notice the difference, then sure, maybe a PC isn’t for you.

And "programming better on Linux"? Sure, Linux is great, but you can run Linux on a PC. Do you think Linux runs on thin air or something? It’s like you don't even know what a PC is. Just because you’ve heard these buzzwords doesn’t mean you understand how any of them work.
 

David B

An Idiot
I just found something on my wall and it reminds me big time of which way to go. XBOX IS JUST LIKE STEAM ON PC FOR ME. ALL THE GAMES I OWN I ALREADY OWN ON PS CONSOLES. THUS XBOX AND PC ARE POINTLESS TO OWN! On Xbox Series X I own 134 games I already own or can own on PS consoles. There's only 19 exclusive games on the Xbox Series X that haven't gone to PS or Ninteno consoles. On PC Steam as I've said 29 of the games I already own on PlayStation consoles and the rest are PC exclusives but I really don't care about any of those PC exclusive games I bought years ago anyway. Therefore PlayStation wins big time for me. I have a PS2 slim for PS2 and PS1 games. I have a PS3 slim for PS3 games. I have a PS4 Pro but I have replaced with a PS5 to play PS4 and PS5 games. I own over 450 games across all the PlayStation consoles. So yeah I think it's pretty clear which way I should go. Stay on PlayStation as I have since the beginning PS1 time. Most games, most controllers, most consoles, spent the most on, yeah it's pretty easy to just stay with PlayStation and get PS5 Pro.
 
This post reeks of someone who doesn’t know how to maximize their setup. Blaming the PC for being “useless” when the real problem is that you don’t know what you’re doing is a weak attempt to justify your poor gaming experience. If you can't handle the complexity and potential of a PC, sure, stick to your limited console. But don’t pretend that consoles are somehow superior because you gave up.
“Maximize their setup” is a funny way of saying sunk cost fallacy. Ie, I wasted a lot of money and I need to find a way to justify this investment. I don’t need to “maximize my setup” because i don’t care if the $3k+ I spent gathers dust because the money is less important than my time. When a game comes to pc that’s actually worth playing like cyberpunk and bg3, I’ll play it there. When there isn’t one, I’ll play on console.
Saying that graphical options and high frame rates “don’t matter” after 60fps is just plain ignorance. Anyone who has experienced gaming at higher frame rates knows that it vastly improves gameplay. If you’re too blind to notice the difference, then sure, maybe a PC isn’t for you.
Imagine that, resorting to personal insults because someone doesn’t like your toy… I have an aw3423dwf QD Oled gaming monitor. An Lg 77 g3, lg Oled 55 g4. I’m even contemplating buying that 480hz Oled monitor just out of curiosity sake. However, the additional utility gains from playing over 60fps is worth less than actual gameplay innovation. Once a game is 60fps at a high enough resolution to provide clarity, the additional frames do not increase the fun factor of the game. I know that because I’ve tested it out on my multiple displays. The game runs faster and smoother but it’s not more fun. The only people that believe it does are those who blame their hardware for their lack of skill.

And "programming better on Linux"? Sure, Linux is great, but you can run Linux on a PC. Do you think Linux runs on thin air or something? It’s like you don't even know what a PC is. Just because you’ve heard these buzzwords doesn’t mean you understand how any of them work.
Good luck gaming playing big multiplayer games with anti cheat on Linux. The only acceptable way to game on Linux is steam deck(I own one) and it’s also superior to gaming on windows due to ease of use. In fact, gaming on windows is the worst way to play games period. Provided other platforms offer the same software with adequate performance, there is no reason to ever game on windows. Unlike you, I actually work in enterprise software so I know what I’m talking about. Btw, don’t think I won’t clown on you by posting receipts of everything I said. Check my post history if you think I’m lying.
 
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Radical_3d

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I own over 450 games on PS12345 consoles. I own 32 games on Steam PC. PS5 Pro has 33.5 teraflop performance. The PC I can afford has about 35 teraflops with Nvidia 4070 super. SO WITH THAT NEWS, WHICH SHOULD I BUY?
A 4070 Súper is more powerful if you like PC gaming.
 
Go pc now before you get stuck in Sony digital store land. Many more games on PC, many classics for free. Want 7500 dos games. Download Exodos for free. Want Outrun 2 free? Go to an abandonware site. Want recent games free. Go to the Epicstore on Thursday or Prime gaming. Want cheap bundels, look at Humble Bundle. And want free online? Go PC.
Zero regrets.

'But i want a hassle free experience'.The best things in life take some effort and believe me, i was a complete PC noob. Unless you're an idiot you'll figure everything out real fast.
 
A 4070 Súper is more powerful if you like PC gaming.
It is until we hit the 12gb vram limit then it’s not. Never ever buy a GPU with less vram than a console. Realistically speaking, if I were advising someone to build a pc today, the starting GPU is the 4070ti super. It provides a significant overhead over the ps5 pro and it has 16gb of ram. That is if they plan to keep the pc for a while. You can’t even consider amd till rdna 4 releases due to their horrible RT performance and fsr.

As a former 3080 10gb owner that was forced to upgrade due to vram, I’ll never make that mistake again. Basically the best time to build a pc is 1-2 years after a new console gen starts. You should find a card with a 2x overhead and at minimum equivalent VRAM. Do that and the pc will last you the gen.
 
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Snake29

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This is false. You can actually fix poorly implemented HDR in games on pc. Can you on console?



That already is the problem. Nobody wants to fix shit lol. This argument about HDR is pure nonsense for the most part. HDR on pc displays alone do not come close atm. The only screens that offer a better HDR solution are HDR OLED PC monitors, but the majority of pc gamers do not even have HDR to begin with. The only valid point is that you can do more on a pc, but when someone only wants to game, people have laptops these days for other work and not pc like in the past.

If you need to work with workarounds to get something "close" to what the console can offer then it is already something bad imo. Casuals will say "yeah fuck it, i will just buy a console so that i know it will work correctly".

Never heard of RTX HDR huh? and before that was special k or even auto HDR


white house lol GIF by NowThis

The fact that you need to struggle around to get it working is stupid thing alone. These things should work out of the box. So all i say is the HDR argument is pure bullshit and nonsense argument since HDR on PC is far behind.

You can't be that stupid to say that HDR is a selling point on PC, because it's not.
 
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Fabieter

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Gaming PC

The card you are going with is around the same power as the PS5 Pro

You can do lot with a Gaming PC

Steam Sales too

Don't need to pay for online

You can get those games you have on PS1 - PS4 on emulation

Steam sales aint that different to psn dales anymore. The right answer is key stores. I rarely buy games through steam.

Op what are the reason for your thoughts about PC? My answer would completely depend on that.
 
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Hrk69

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Good luck gaming playing big multiplayer games with anti cheat on Linux. The only acceptable way to game on Linux is steam deck(I own one) and it’s also superior to gaming on windows due to ease of use. In fact, gaming on windows is the worst way to play games period. Provided other platforms offer the same software with adequate performance, there is no reason to ever game on windows. Unlike you, I actually work in enterprise software so I know what I’m talking about. Btw, don’t think I won’t clown on you by posting receipts of everything I said. Check my post history if you think I’m lying.
You think anyone cares about your post history or reciepts? Congratulations on documenting your bad takes all over the internet. Posting “proof” of your nonsense doesn’t make it any less embarrassing.

Stop trying to mask your insecurity with weak flexes and receipts no one asked for.
 
You think anyone cares about your post history or reciepts? Congratulations on documenting your bad takes all over the internet. Posting “proof” of your nonsense doesn’t make it any less embarrassing.

Stop trying to mask your insecurity with weak flexes and receipts no one asked for.
My insecurities? Says the guy crying about a toy and hurling personal insults because I shared an opinion about pc gaming he didn’t agree with… Yea, I’m the one with insecurities lol.
 
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Hrk69

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My insecurities? Says the guy crying about a toy and hurling personal insults because I shared an opinion about pc gaming he didn’t agree with… Yea, I’m the one with insecurities lol.
I was just pointing out why you were 100% wrong. You still are.

Saying Mac is better for editing lmfao. What year is it? Mr Reddit.

Nothing screams "I'm insecure" more than a weak flex and saying you work in a certain field.

But I'm so sorry you took that "insult" personal. Are you ok my man? You must-have been hurt by the hurling of that insult. Just grab your receipts and everything will be A-OK.
 
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Hohenheim

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I'd definitly go for the 4070 Super PC.
I have that card myself, and it's a great performing card, while being quite small, cool and quiet.
 
Yes It is,
No it’s not. You don’t save money by spending more money. You save money by spending less money. So if an individual controls their spending, resells their completed games to fund the purchase of other games, stays away from subscriptions, pc gaming can never be cheaper than console gaming.

Like I said in my previous post, it’s just pc gamers cooking the books to find ways to justify their investment. The first thing they’ll tell you is the cost of ps plus or Xbox gamepass over the cost of the console. What they won’t tell you is that the combine ecosystem of ps4 and ps5 is over 150 million devices yet Sony only has 47 million ps plus subscribers. So greater than 2/3rds of users are not paying for ps plus.

Spending more money to “save” money is a fools errand. You save money by not spending money. Pc gaming can never be cheaper than console gaming period.
 

Thebonehead

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This guy at it again:








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Op when his post history was exposed....


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I was just pointing out why you were 100% wrong. You still are.

Nothing screams "I'm insecure" more than a weak flex and saying you work in a certain field.

But I'm so sorry you took that personal. Are you ok my man? You must-have been hurt by the hurling of that insult. Just grab your receipts and everything will be A-OK.
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CyberCali

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This guy at it again:








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OP caught in 4k. Thread closed.
 
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