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[HeisenbergFX4]

Ok say I'm a gamer who felt Xbox 360 was better than PS3 because of Halo , Forza & Gears of War does the cement loosen up if these games come to PS5 ?

Personally I think the whole idea of needing Xbox 360 games to come to the PS5 to loosen that cement kind of proves the angle analog_future was taking

 

[MagnesD3]

With Jim Ryan's push for GaaS from 1st party that incurred billions of losses and ultimately him getting fired, Phil's confused decisions for Xbox, long disruptions in gamedev due to strikes and COVID, an unstable world and economy, brainrot that promotes quick sessions of play and rise of mobile gaming, the consoles absolutely got decimated. PC gaming thankfully won this generation but PC hardware was and is still a sore loser as long as Nvidia has a near monopoly in GPU technology.

Fucked up times.

People are so dumb and short sighted in general. If companies played the long game their longevity is almost guaranteed :S

Sucks.

 

[onQ123]

Personally I think the whole idea of needing Xbox 360 games to come to the PS5 to loosen that cement kind of proves the angle analog_future was taking

I don't think PlayStation needed these games at all but it's happening so with it happening it brings up the question.

If you felt Xbox 360 was better than PS3 because of these games why wouldn't it be the same for PS5 when it also have these games?

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Let's be honest:

Sony wants you to pay $800 for the "privilege" of being a proto-PS6 beta tester (I believe PSSR will reach DLSS3-4 quality in 2027-2028).

No, thanks.

You have to pay me for that job.

ps: I also wouldn't pay $3000 for being nVidia's beta tester (RTX 5090 shenanigans), but it's not like you need an RTX 5090 to compete against PS5 Pro.

Cards such as RTX 4060-4070 are good enough, they have decent power consumption and the power connector will never melt.

I have a friend who's about to buy a 5090 and wants to sell me his 3080ti which had all the best components when he bought it 2 years ago.

How does this compare to the Pro? I could always buy a newer GPU at a later date assuming the CPU is still good. I'm assuming it still easily beats the Pro but I don't know for sure but it has much better CPU (i9?) and a lot more ram and of course dlss is much better than pssr ...

Im so unhappy with Sony and the Pro that I want to switch to PC gaming as a "fuck you" to Sony lol. I own and have tested almost every single notable game on Pro and despite what the fanboys on Neogaf want to believe the console has been a total dud.

 

[PeteBull]

I have a friend who's about to buy a 5090 and wants to sell me his 3080ti which had all the best components when he bought it 2 years ago.

How does this compare to the Pro? I could always buy a newer GPU at a later date assuming the CPU is still good. I'm assuming it still easily beats the Pro but I don't know for sure but it has much better CPU (i9?) and a lot more ram and of course dlss is much better than pssr ...

Im so unhappy with Sony and the Pro that I want to switch to PC gaming as a "fuck you" to Sony lol. I own and have tested almost every single notable game on Pro and despite what the fanboys on Neogaf want to believe the console has been a total dud.

As a current owner of 3080ti, its about 2x stronger from base ps5 gpu, ps5pr0 is up to 40% stronger, nuff said.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Specs

NVIDIA GA102, 1665 MHz, 10240 Cores, 320 TMUs, 112 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6X, 1188 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Lol, Xbox/Pc fanboys working overtime.

"No its not a great console. If Im not having fun, that means you shouldnt be having fun either...."

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I don't think PlayStation needed these games at all but it's happening so with it happening it brings up the question.

If you felt Xbox 360 was better than PS3 because of these games why wouldn't it be the same for PS5 when it also have these games?

Just my 2 cents when I voted this generation the worst I only meant from a first party standpoint

I think in general for my tastes outside of Astrobot Sony's first party output has been horrible

I will say I think MS output has been very poor as well

But for me its just all about 1st party games

 

[LectureMaster]

Just my 2 cents when I voted this generation the worst I only meant from a first party standpoint

I think in general for my tastes outside of Astrobot Sony's first party output has been horrible

I will say I think MS output has been very poor as well

But for me its just all about 1st party games

Feels exactly the same.

PS5 as a platform has been great, 60 fps standardization, dualsense, high speed ssd, all those are huge this generation.

But first party games, specifically PlayStation Studios output, has been a huge letdown to me. Demon's Souls and Returnal I really love, the rest is lukewarm.

It was hilarious in the SOP viewership thread that you were saying first party was not good while other Sony fans insist third-party reveals are great. You guys weren't even arguing the same thing.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Feels exactly the same.

PS5 as a platform has been great, 60 fps standardization, dualsense, high speed ssd, all those are huge this generation.

But first party games, specifically PlayStation Studios output, has been a huge letdown to me. Demon's Souls and Returnal I really love, the rest is lukewarm.

It was hilarious in the SOP viewership thread that you were saying first party was not good while other Sony fans insist third-party reveals are great. You guys weren't even arguing the same thing.

Without a doubt the platform is great and I love the Pro and Edge controller

Just wish I had more 1st party games that I enjoyed and those may be coming with Ghost of Yotei, Death Stranding 2, Wolverine (If done right) and the Housemarque game but who knows how far off that one is

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Lol, Xbox/Pc fanboys working overtime.

"No its not a great console. If Im not having fun, that means you shouldnt be having fun either...."

I don’t think anyone is trying to tell you not to enjoy the PS games, if you loved the last PS show that’s great

I sure see a few people telling us how wrong we are though not happy with Sony’s 1st party output

 

[Bernardougf]

I don’t think anyone is trying to tell you not to enjoy the PS games, if you loved the last PS show that’s great

I sure see a few people telling us how wrong we are though not happy with Sony’s 1st party output

I particularly enjoy when the vaporware list is brought up. People pretend to know exactly what sony is doing.. while bluepoint is working on a fucking GoW gaas for how many years and is now canceled. It cant be more clear than this.

 

[ArtHands]

Ok say I'm a gamer who felt Xbox 360 was better than PS3 because of Halo , Forza & Gears of War does the cement loosen up if these games come to PS5 ?

Does it matter? All of these console games and PC exclusives are on PC.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Does it matter? All of these console games and PC exclusives are on PC.

Cool story bro

I don’t like using PCs

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Cool story bro

I don’t like using PCs

I know a lot of people who don't and nothing wrong with that

After my 4090 up and died and my 5090 having lines on my display I am pretty tired of PC gaming right now as well if I am being honest

 

[fart town usa]

Without question. I love the hardware and the dual sense is a GOAT-tier controller but Sony first party is a complete embarrassment. A handful of decent games this far in the generation is unacceptable.

 

[onQ123]

Does it matter? All of these console games and PC exclusives are on PC.

If you're comparing PlayStations yes it matters

 

[Negotiator]

You mean like LITERALLY go back to PS3 graphics? I'd kms if that happened.

That ATi tech demo is strongly reminiscent of Heavy Rain, so, yeah, I wouldn't mind going back to top-notch PS3 graphics, $50-60 MSRP and a more regular cadence of releases...

I see nothing wrong with this quality of graphics and if someone is bothered by cube maps, I guess it's possible to replace them with RT thanks to RTX Remix (free RTX mod/remaster, instead of paying Sony a hefty fee):

NVIDIA RTX Remix Modding Platform

Sign up to be notified of RTX Remix availability.

www.nvidia.com

For some strange reason I still prefer Heavy Rain graphics compared to modern graphics (I ran all 3DMark tests today and I'd say the graphics are a bit too soft for my taste, although DLSS helps a bit in terms of sharpening).

I have a friend who's about to buy a 5090 and wants to sell me his 3080ti which had all the best components when he bought it 2 years ago.

How does this compare to the Pro? I could always buy a newer GPU at a later date assuming the CPU is still good. I'm assuming it still easily beats the Pro but I don't know for sure but it has much better CPU (i9?) and a lot more ram and of course dlss is much better than pssr ...

Im so unhappy with Sony and the Pro that I want to switch to PC gaming as a "fuck you" to Sony lol. I own and have tested almost every single notable game on Pro and despite what the fanboys on Neogaf want to believe the console has been a total dud.

I'd say it depends on the price of that PC (must be a bargain since you're asking) and the electricity rates in your area.

3080 Ti is almost 2 times faster than 4060 (PS5 Pro baseline), it has 50% more VRAM, but it also has a higher TDP:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Specs

NVIDIA GA102, 1665 MHz, 10240 Cores, 320 TMUs, 112 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6X, 1188 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Specs

NVIDIA AD107, 2460 MHz, 3072 Cores, 96 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2125 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Feels exactly the same.

PS5 as a platform has been great, 60 fps standardization, dualsense, high speed ssd, all those are huge this generation.

But first party games, specifically PlayStation Studios output, has been a huge letdown to me. Demon's Souls and Returnal I really love, the rest is lukewarm.

It was hilarious in the SOP viewership thread that you were saying first party was not good while other Sony fans insist third-party reveals are great. You guys weren't even arguing the same thing.

I agree with this and I would love it if I could play the games I wanted on this platform.. but chances are I'll play them on RPCS3 (which means Sony gets zero money from me).

It's OK if they no longer want my money, they should pander to former XBOX 360 gamers.

ps: I understand why many people hated the PS3 generation (difficult Cell programming, subpar controller), but for me software is No1.

I had the software I wanted on PS3 (Uncharted 2-3), despite the hardware lacking QoL features (DualSense >>> DualShock 3).

That's why for me the ideal combination would be PS5 hardware + PS3 MP remasters (Uncharted 2-3 MP, Killzone 2-3, Warhawk). It would give more incentive for engagement.

I don't understand why they have to remaster PS4 SP games (Horizon Zero Dawn, Days Gone), despite the fact we have PS5 BC. No love for MP games, despite the fact they want a successful GaaS? That's a huge contradiction, if you ask me.

 

[ArtHands]

Cool story bro

I don’t like using PCs

No offense but you don’t matter either.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Crazy to see the biggest playstation fanboy Greg Miller take so many digs at Sony live on stage at the Dice awards.

If a fanboy like that is attacking their favourite brand that theyve shown years of allegiance to, it shows how the public perception is in a state of shifting. Sony need to get on top of this ASAP and nip it in the bud or its going to get worse.

 

[onQ123]

Crazy to see the biggest playstation fanboy Greg Miller take so many digs at Sony live on stage at the Dice awards.

If a fanboy like that is attacking their favourite brand that theyve shown years of allegiance to, it shows how the public perception is in a state of shifting. Sony need to get on top of this ASAP and nip it in the bud or its going to get worse.

Don't confuse media people who gain from hot topics for the public.

The public is buying PS5 up & not worried about 1st party games.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Don't confuse media people who gain from hot topics for the public.

The public is buying PS5 up & not worried about 1st party games.

Sounds like a good place for the consumer and actual real fans of gaming. Guess third party is all that matters.

/s

 

[[Sigma]]

 

[RetroGamingUK]

No offense but you don’t matter either.

Neither do you

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Don't confuse media people who gain from hot topics for the public.

The public is buying PS5 up & not worried about 1st party games.

It'll be a big, big problem for PS6 though.

 

[ArtHands]

Neither do you

Not when I play on PC, no. It is the most important gaming platform among all.