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jett said:
fuck this shit

work on Interstellar, Spielberg, not this garbage.

Yes, I'd vastly prefer seeing a completely new Spielberg movie than another Indy movie that yet again destroys all the good memories of the original three movies. Let the dead rest.
 
Sinatar said:
Yea they gave the exact same low CGI speech for the last one, lying sacks of shit. Yea the internet remembers everything motherfuckers.

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/802/802307p1.html



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The problem wasn't CGI, it was godawful BAD CGI that looked fake like hell. If the movie looked as realistic as Avatar the movie wouldn't have been as bad as it was. I still shudder when I think of the fight on those jeeps in the jungle. The scene with the ants. Shia swinging through the jungle with monkeys. Ugh.

The biggest problem of Indy 4 was the script. I didn't want to see Indy's son, I didn't want to see Indy meet his old flame again. I didn't want aliens.
 
I typed this somewhere else but here's what I think:

I still think The Last Crusade had the best ending to the series possible, the kind of ending that works when the character is an adventurer. No emotional good byes or the hero's death(which has gotten to the point that it's almost cliche), just our heroes riding off into the sunset to have more adventures.
 
I didn't think they were aliens in Crystal Skull, but BEINGS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION. From the space BETWEEN space, or something. They just happen to drive flying saucers.

lol
 
wRATH2x said:
I typed this somewhere else but here's what I think:

I still think The Last Crusade had the best ending to the series possible, the kind of ending that works when the character is an adventurer. No emotional good byes or the hero's death(which has gotten to the point that it's almost cliche), just our heroes riding off into the sunset to have more adventures.

I like to pretend Crystal Skulls doesn't exist and that the Indy TRILOGY rightfully ended with TLC.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Harrison = win.


anyone else as Indiana = fail.

I don't understand this. The character will eventually trancend the actor just like so many other characters that have come before.
 
Indy 4 was still more fun action/adventure movie of this kind than any other movie made lately, so it's hard to really complain despite it's flaws. Look at it this way, maybe we will get a really high budget movie with the state of the art practical effects - how often that happens nowadays?
 
Bermuda triangle?

Fountain of youth or atlantis

And bring it on - love me some Indy - Indy 4 was ok - my problem was the pacing cgi and Ray winstone character
 
Lord Error said:
Indy 4 was still more fun action/adventure movie of this kind than any other movie made lately, so it's hard to really complain despite it's flaws. Look at it this way, maybe we will get a really high budget movie with the state of the art practical effects - how often that happens nowadays?

Indy 4 was straight-up shitcakes and that's all there is to it.
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.

2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.

3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.

4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.

Hopin on this band wagon! Really... so many people see the old movies with nostagia tinted glasses. Because a box that melts faces, a mine cart ride, a parachute inflatable raft, people that outrun rushing water, and a man living after his heart was removed, booby trapped temples, and a cup that makes you age and die within seconds... is soooo damn more realistic and believable then aliens. :lol
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.

2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.

3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.

4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.
Its one of your puns right?
 
jett said:
I like to pretend Crystal Skulls doesn't exist and that the Indy TRILOGY rightfully ended with TLC.
I do that too.

But lets be real here, Indy 4 was meh. I didn't like it and I don't want to see it anymore, but Harrison still got it. Indiana Jones was still awesome, and Marion was still awesome. What really sucked were the villains sucked, the new characters were all crap(Mutt Williams is annoying), the special effects were obviously not real so it killed all the tension, the action scenes were crap and Mutt Williams being Indiana Jones's son was a shitty way of insuring more money for Lucas.

But it was definitely better than all of prequel trilogy of Star Wars, and I stupidly hope Indy 5 will turn out good. Yeah I'm an idiot and I never learn, all I know is that Harrison Ford still has it and Indy is still an awesome character. I'll see it.
 
Why did the crystal skull look like a piece of plastic with tin foil in it? It was the most important prop in the movie and it looked like shit.
 
jett said:
I like to pretend Crystal Skulls doesn't exist and that the Indy TRILOGY rightfully ended with TLC.

This.

Stop raping my childhood memories with shia labeouf infested alien rubbish :(
 
Old Lace said:
Why did the crystal skull look like a piece of plastic with tin foil in it? It was the most important prop in the movie and it looked like shit.
this too. wasn't the skull hidden in some retarded tomb that had no danger at all, just a bunch of fake looking cobwebs and shia's silent but deadly farts?

honestly, it was just lame as fuck

the story sucked. it felt like an excuse to go to cool locales and have great stunts. oh wait, the locales were in shit CG and the stunts were idiotic and lame. it was like a videogame. indy was lame as hell. did he do anything cool in the movie? shia was meh. the chick indy banged while she was a teenager has aged horribly and no longer knows how to act. and so on. blah blah blah. the alien shuttle looked like trash too. man, it sucked. :(.

anyone who likes this movie is a terrible human being. ok, not really, but there's no need for it to exist and it's a shame it had the indiana jones label because it tricked people into seeing it who otherwise wouldn't.
 
speculawyer said:
I was just thinking about that . . . kinda ironic that as an atheist, I want the religion based mumbo-jumbo in Indy but not aliens. But it does make sense to me. The Indyverse is about Nazis, treasure-hunting, religious mythology, history, the 40's, etc.

It is not Star Wars. Keep that shit out. Indy is about weaving an adventure in history. It is not about making up completely new stuff.

And perhaps that is why Temple of Doom sucked. What the hell were those magical stones? Is that something they made up or is that some real artifact in India? Gimme the Arc of the Covenant and the Holy Grail.
Temple of Doom was much better than Skull if for no other reason than the opening scene and the humor.

To me, as a God believer but not a believer of the Jones stuff (Since it came from a screenwriter's mind and not my holy text of choice), they could have tied all of his previous adventures to aliens for all I cared - if the story was good.

The problem was the story was not good. Aliens didn't make Crystal Skull bad, the story was horrible and not up to snuff imo.
 
I found Crystal Skull watchable up til the jeep chase. Then it went off the rails and lost any semblance of character and was completely devoid of charm. It became a bunch of soulless automatons running, screaming and fighting their way through a bunch of poorly executed set pieces. I'm still shocked these action sequences came from Spielberg.

I'd like to see Spielberg redeem himself for this mess. Keep Lucas far, far away please Steven. :/ His influence could be felt throughout all of Crystal Skull.
 
Count Dookkake said:
1) Crystal Skull was a fine Indy movie, on par with Last Crusade.

2) Shia surpassed my expectations by far and I want to see more of his character.

3) Aliens are just as "real" as magic boxes, stones and cups.

4) I hope even more of you hate the next one.

1) Not especially, no. Between making Jones out to be some kind of war hero, silly cartoon animals, and that terrible ending, KOTCS felt like a chance to recapture the glory days by people who couldn't remember what they felt like in the first place.

2) Agreed. I wanted to hate Shia, but he really pulled the role off.

3) Perhaps, but actually having the aliens -- and to a lesser extent, their ship -- show up in the film would be akin to Jesus himself dropping by at the end of Last Crusade to tell Indy he had indeed chosen wisely.

4) Haters gonna hate.
 
ymmv said:
The problem wasn't CGI, it was godawful BAD CGI that looked fake like hell. If the movie looked as realistic as Avatar the movie wouldn't have been as bad as it was. I still shudder when I think of the fight on those jeeps in the jungle. The scene with the ants. Shia swinging through the jungle with monkeys. Ugh.

No amount of CGI progression would make the Shia of the Jungle scene look good.
 
Spotless Mind said:
I found Crystal Skull watchable up til the jeep chase. Then it went off the rails and lost any semblance of character and was completely devoid of charm. It became a bunch of soulless automatons running, screaming and fighting their way through a bunch of poorly executed set pieces. I'm still shocked these action sequences came from Spielberg.

This sums up my feelings just about perfectly. I was on board until the jeep/jungle/monkey stuff. My suspension of disbelief stretches more than most, but it snapped during that part.
 
Sounds fake. While Ford has recently expressed a desire to play the character again (and soon, before he's in a wheelchair) and both he and Shia criticized KOTCS and sound like they'd like another try to get it right again, Spielberg hasn't said anything to make me think he's going to make another Indy film so soon. I think he's already committed to filming War Horse as his next picture. Back at the Golden Globes in December he said this:
"Some day there may be another Indiana Jones. George and I have had a couple of conversations about 'What If?' we made another Indiana Jones film, but right now we aren't in the position to do that."
Now have things changed enough in six months to make Indy 5 his next project? I doubt it. It's sad because Ford is still great in the role. From the moment Indy 4 was announced to the day it opened, all you heard were jokes about Ford's age and how it would be a problem. It wasn't for me. He's perfect as Indy. But almost everything else about that movie was way below the standards of the franchise.
 
DMczaf said:
We've been told this lie before
Yup

The movie will be shit. With Skulls, I was upset Spielberg didn't reign in some of Lucas' more ridiculous ideas and focus more on the character. But given Spielberg's gushing comments on Skulls, and how much he loved the script, it's clear neither of them are capable of objectively reviewing their work or making anything more than a bloated blockbuster. Ironically Shia is the only person so far to be honest about the process and admit the film was bad.

The Bermuda Triangle could be interesting, but I refuse to get excited with Lucas and Spielberg at the helm.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Yup

The movie will be shit. With Skulls, I was upset Spielberg didn't reign in some of Lucas' more ridiculous ideas and focus more on the character. But given Spielberg's gushing comments on Skulls, and how much he loved the script, it's clear neither of them are capable of objectively reviewing their work or making anything more than a bloated blockbuster. Ironically Shia is the only person so far to be honest about the process and admit the film was bad.

The Bermuda Triangle could be interesting, but I refuse to get excited with Lucas and Spielberg at the helm.

Maybe if someone else picked up the franchise. Just think what Indy V would be if James Cameron wrote and directed ... If Lucas wanted to share his ideas, at least Cameron would have the balls to say no ...

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Spotless Mind said:
I found Crystal Skull watchable up til the jeep chase. Then it went off the rails and lost any semblance of character and was completely devoid of charm. It became a bunch of soulless automatons running, screaming and fighting their way through a bunch of poorly executed set pieces. I'm still shocked these action sequences came from Spielberg.

I'd like to see Spielberg redeem himself for this mess. Keep Lucas far, far away please Steven. :/ His influence could be felt throughout all of Crystal Skull.

His influence was exactly the same as it always has been in the films.

I can perfectly understand hating on Lucas given his recent output, but what I don't understand is people's inability to comprehend that he's just lost it with age.

It happens to everyone... look at Spielberg.
 
Should've been Atlantis...

Bermuda Triangle is the stupidest shit ever. I've spoken to people who've lived in the area. Complete hogwash. And while wikipedia isn't the bastion of knowledge, it also offers this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle

Documented evidence indicates that a significant percentage of the incidents were inaccurately reported or embellished by later authors, and numerous official agencies have stated that the number and nature of disappearances in the region is similar to that in any other area of ocean.
 
Furret said:
His influence was exactly the same as it always has been in the films.

I can perfectly understand hating on Lucas given his recent output, but what I don't understand is people's inability to comprehend that he's just lost it with age.

It happens to everyone... look at Spielberg.
I perfectly comprehend that. I am referring to current Lucas when i say that. He has completely lost his storytelling ability and should no longer have such an influential role in the scripts. The action sequences and lack of character focus gave me huge Star Wars prequel flashbacks.

I may hate him now, but i still appreciate the role he played in producing fantastic films in the 80's that i grew up with.
 
Kuro Madoushi said:
Should've been Atlantis...

Bermuda Triangle is the stupidest shit ever. I've spoken to people who've lived in the area. Complete hogwash. And while wikipedia isn't the bastion of knowledge, it also offers this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_Triangle

don't care what you think about the Bermuda Triangle, but Atlantis has been the obvious choice for years. Why they keep NOT selecting it is beyond me.
 
Spotless Mind said:
I perfectly comprehend that. I am referring to current Lucas when i say that. He has completely lost his storytelling ability and should no longer have such an influential role in the scripts. The action sequences and lack of character focus gave me huge Star Wars prequel flashbacks.

I may hate him now, but i still appreciate the role he played in producing fantastic films in the 80's that i grew up with.

That sounds much more reasonable, but I still sill little reason to blame Lucas over Spielberg for Crystal Skull.

Both Ford and Spielberg had the right of veto and the problems such as poor action scenes and phoned-in performances (except, I thought, Shia) were certainly not Lucas' responsibility.

Not that I don't think Lucas shouldn't be skinned alive for what he's done to Star Wars you understand, but it always seems to me that Spielberg gets a free ride in comparison.
 
ymmv said:
Maybe if someone else picked up the franchise. Just think what Indy V would be if James Cameron wrote and directed ... If Lucas wanted to share his ideas, at least Cameron would have the balls to say no ...

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Big difference between Cameron and Spielberg is Spielberg is a for hire director whereas Cameron is interested in his own vision. Cameron is more like Lucas which would mean Cameron would eventually leave the project.:lol
 
I heard a rumor that the fifth Indy movie is gonna be a big piece of shit.

And don't bother asking me for my source, because it's confidential.
 
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