SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
These people have never played a video game in their life. I wish i was a billionaire so i could buy this studio only to shut it down and send all the employees to Sony to work on concord dlc as punishment.
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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II ⊰♖|OT|♖⊱ Stop! Or My Henry Will Swing His Sword!
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coachmcguirk91
Member
Dude, nobody is forcing you to play the game. Outside of wishing for a deeper combat system, I don't see any flaws with the design of the game. It is first and foremost a mideval immersive sim. And there is a reason why it is selling and reviewing so well. Nobody makes games like this anymore. It's not a game for everybody, and the game doesn't try to cater to casual players
Also, you can save and quit at any time. Not to mention, it would take 10min to brew up 10 save potions
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Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Where can I get the ingredients?
Yes I am a retard.
Also, bugs don’t make me a retard. Playing dice as sunset is coming without a torch in your hand so a guard doesn’t auto kill you when the game ends isn’t something wrong with me.
SaiyanRaoh
Member
I am completely in love with this game. I'm 32 hours and and I just now decided to go after Mutt. I haven't even been to that wedding yet. Just messing around and getting immersed in the world, trying to get gud at combat, doing side content and acquiring perks. No game post Steam Deck has grabbed me like this to where I went out of my way install it on my Steam Deck, manually install QOL small mods like the unlimited save mod and take it where ever I go so I can break it out whenever I get even a spare minute to play.
Speaking of the Steam Deck, this game runs like a fucking dream. Even on my 4090 PC, except for a little pop in, there are no issues like studdering or crashing. THIS is how you optimize a game devs!!
For the Savior Schnapps lovers out there, I get it and I know why it's a feature. But while I love the game, there's enough jank included for the game to have what I call an unfair advantage. The unlimited save mod counters this for me. I lost a couple hours due to the game spazzing out.
Also, I am still unable to to sell horses to the Nomad camp for some reason. I simply don't get the option. I even parked the horse underneath the red tent where it supposedly activates the prompt. So I think that feature is broken for me this playthrough I guess
Speaking of the Steam Deck, this game runs like a fucking dream. Even on my 4090 PC, except for a little pop in, there are no issues like studdering or crashing. THIS is how you optimize a game devs!!
For the Savior Schnapps lovers out there, I get it and I know why it's a feature. But while I love the game, there's enough jank included for the game to have what I call an unfair advantage. The unlimited save mod counters this for me. I lost a couple hours due to the game spazzing out.
Also, I am still unable to to sell horses to the Nomad camp for some reason. I simply don't get the option. I even parked the horse underneath the red tent where it supposedly activates the prompt. So I think that feature is broken for me this playthrough I guess
SaiyanRaoh
Member
THIS. I love the game but there are a lot of bugs. I mentioned this in the post above.
tTHANOSs
Member
I was doing a quest with another character and they were off on there own talking to someone in a castle fort thing so I was to explore on my own. Decided to play dice and in mid game the other character came to me and said it's time to leave. The guards were starting to get bitchy that I was trespassing. I finished the game and once I got up I got the fuck out of there and they continued to yell at me. Idk I think it's funny.
Grildon Tundy
Member
I got you (and anyone else looking for Savior Schnapps ingredients), bro. This spot is right around where you start the game in earnest, and has a ton of Belladonna and Nettle. They also seem to respawn after a day or two. Red X marks the spot.
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Wolves hunt in packs
Member
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Got done with the stolen cart quest with 1HP. I knew if I had died I would’ve likely lost all the progress. Back when I got my horse I assume.
Got back to the drop off starting town. Had money to buy some save potions and cooked up 2.
Now can someone explain to me why they think it’s a good idea for 2 weeks to be how long I need to put something in a box for the item to not be considered stolen?
I really want to hear the mental gymnastics over that one you’ve convinced yourselves is “good design” and “playing by their rules.”
Like I can’t prove a horse is mine cuz of no brand, so then how can some jack ass prove this is his sword without a brand either huh?
Got back to the drop off starting town. Had money to buy some save potions and cooked up 2.
Now can someone explain to me why they think it’s a good idea for 2 weeks to be how long I need to put something in a box for the item to not be considered stolen?
I really want to hear the mental gymnastics over that one you’ve convinced yourselves is “good design” and “playing by their rules.”
Like I can’t prove a horse is mine cuz of no brand, so then how can some jack ass prove this is his sword without a brand either huh?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I tried fighting tomcat, but I feel like I’m messing around with a crosshair and swinging just to miss. He hits me and it’s a “sorry lad” with my health depleted. Frustrating af. Traveled far north thinking I’d find something but it just said I shouldn’t leave yet. I don’t have high enough charisma to get nice clothes for some reason? I need non armor for the quest I’m on.
I want to like this experience, but I’ve never felt like my time in a game made 0 progress like this does. I searched for a grave, found one, but no loot.
I want to like this experience, but I’ve never felt like my time in a game made 0 progress like this does. I searched for a grave, found one, but no loot.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Smithing is an absolute pain with a controller.
coachmcguirk91
Member
You just gotta immerse yourself in the world and accept it is going to be a slow start. It may seem like you have done nothing but talking, running, galloping, fist fighting, thieving all increase your stats. You want to avoid sword fights as much as possible until you level up your character a bit
nemiroff
Gold Member
You can't use retrieval commands on horses you haven't claimed. For that you need:
1. You have a free horse (Pebbles) - When you find it (don't remember the name of the trader where it's at, probably south)
2. There is place where you can pay to claim ownership of stolen horses (near the Nomad camp)
2. There is place where you can pay to claim ownership of stolen horses (near the Nomad camp)
You can use an AI chatbot to get further details.
Guys, it's ok. Yes, the game has a few issues. But if you feel a struggle with glitches, keep in mind the game hasn't had any updates yet. I mean, KCD1 had quite a few of them, so there are probably multiple incoming.
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I went back later on to fight tomcat and it was so much easier it took just a few hits. Goto towns and find quests you will then naturally get money from the quest and selling stuff you aquire from them to. You won't really have to pay for any items of clothing you will get them anyway if you atleast kill a few. Mutt can help in combat when you first start off he can attack on command and distract them while you stab whatever bastard you're fighting while they are occupied with mutt.
GymWolf
Member
Super easy to make money aswell.
GymWolf
Member
What translator? The game has an ingame translator??
GymWolf
Member
Yeah you find all of that during exploration.
nkarafo
Member
Is that system like i remember it in Oblivion?
I remember this making no sense. I mean, KCD goes all in for realism so how does some random guy know a random item i have is stolen if they never had that information beforehand?
MMaRsu
Member
Been having a blast with controller on pc
Topher
Identifies as young
Been having a blast with controller on pc
That’s good. Just not clicking for me
Ocean Dweller
Member
what exactly is this N/ keybind? I cannot figure it out...
Forsete
Member
Left ALT I think, or was it Q?what exactly is this N/ keybind? I cannot figure it out...
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I've been there last year.I have been to the Czech Republic once and had an amazing weekend there. Prague is a gorgeous city and the countryside is incredible. Both KCD games do a great job of conveying scenery incredibly well, too.
And what this Tuber has to say about King Charles is true too. Charles Bridge (photo below) in Prague is really cool, and I think that it was a big inspiration for Bloodborne. In fact, I have a feeling that Prague was one of the largest inspirations for Yarnham in total.
Czechia is not small or unimportant.
IZ JUST BLOODBORNE
Poor RT implementation. can't even see the building clearly
See these guys? They puke at you if you loose to Logarius
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PicoLordens
Member
Smithing I find super easy. It's the lockpicking that drives me mad.
Luipadre
Member
What? Im playing on PC with controller and its amazing expect the lockpick minigame, which is a pain in the ass. Everything else is smooth
panda-zebra
Member
tl;dr not sure there's anything particularly disadvantageous playing on console with controller
Some games obviously lean to being played with a keyboard and mouse because that's how their genres grew and evolved, then if they have interfaces that are needlessly painful when shoddily botched for controllers that only grates more, but how so here? I'm not feeling I'm actively being hampered by using controller in this one, unlike games such as Helldivers (collecting samples is shit-tier on console vs clicky-clicky-zoom-zoom on m/kb) or POE2 (console is an utter afterthought, a huge swathe of lacking, broken and inconsistent features in early access). It all seems to play as I'd expect on the dual sense in KCD2 - it presents as a technically good experience on the pro, no real problems as I'm now pushing 50 hours and still not attending the wedding because I see no rush (when they said the plat takes 200 hours I wasn't lying when I said it'll take me 400+ as that's just how I do).
Unless there's something I'm missing whereby m/kb actively allows access to more gameplay styles then it's probably all just a matter of Henry being a wimpy blank slate early doors, and that's the case for everyone however they're playing. yeah you can dumb the game down with mods on PC, but there's nothing too egregious that makes the console experience bad, even saves thanks to Exit & Save haiving you back in game in seconds with a free banker slot.
The game is going to be a somewhat janky experience wherever/however you play, that's inherent to the game, so if it's combat jank that's a big issue and it feels like it's the fault of the controller it's probably not - it's just a low level character flailing around in the early stages of the game and that's the same however you play. Everything levels up by doing stuff, all those perks snowball. Wander around with too much stuff on your back and you'll get stronger quicker, allowing access to perks that help you carry more stuff sooner and enable your mule gameplay choice. It doesn't punnish you, it lets you grow as you do what interests you - that's how a game should work rather than just endlessly punishing you for not playing it "right" as some will. So go get a few bandit kills and swipe their gear, have it fixed up (if you're short of cash play dice and even save scum to ensure the income, take their badges and leave them in the gutter... until a few days later when they'll happily hand over their hard-earned groshen once again), now you'll find it's trivialised combat rather rapidly, abusing the patient counter attacking method outlined many times in the thread. You'll have some tense 3-on-1 moments without Mutt to help out early on, so go get him asap, but scrape by and you'll soon be going out of your way to have them lining up to die, like last night where I killed a horde of bandit types in the night, raided their shit, slept in their bed and woke to find their mates queueing up to suffer the same fate. Bring it! If you want to cheese force some perk gaining you can even do mindless stuff like swiping away with the wooden sword using the wrong combos as every swipe adds XP (don't anyone do that though, there's no need, it's just to outline that all actions at all times are ++ing these in-game counters and making Henry stronger). Another example of early tricky stuff that gets trivial is Wolves and wild dog packs - that howl if you're lost in the woods, omfg! - but get some steel around your ankles and you can just stand there and tank their chomps, let Mutt earn his keep.
The only real gripes I have playing on ps5 with the interface are that I'm hard-wired to press the touch pad to throw up a map and that's not what this game does, and the whole menu interface feels designed for ultra wide monitor users with having to keep sliding pertinent info in and out form the left or right of the screen, but that's just dodgy design in a stat-heavy title with only so much real estate in 16:9.
The only big advantage I see to PC is mods, and that's always the case with this kind of game. Saving might be the biggest pain point, but thanks to posts in this thread that's not even a problem on console as you can abuse Exit and Save then be back playing in seconds. In some ways that felt like it broke a key aspect of the game as it was intended, as it removed a fair bit of tension from some situations. But as there's only 1 slot that you overwrite you have to be sensible with its use, then schnapps saves seem less grating and story point forced saves are there as insurance. Save & Exit saves also kind of break the exact instance as everything resets to a sort of default state - handy if something went a little wonky but potentially risks losing out on something the save state doesn't preserve.
I can't even engage with this on controller, my physically fucked right hand simply cannot make the required movements. Was hoping some perks might be able to bypass it... but how would I level them if I can't even succeed in completing just one of the very easiest locks there are :/
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Imagine being this triggered by a videogame. And it's not even a hard one, definitely not compared to the first game. Go take some meds.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Man I am in the castle and I cant believe how good this game is, the amount of choices and options to resolve these quests are incredible. I haven't felt this for a videogame in a long time. It reminds me sometimes to Deus Ex and Dishonored when it comes to stealth and level design too and I didn't have this feeling for the first one which is very curious and I think is proof that this sequel is more complex and superior
Goddamn I love videogames when they are made with passion
Goddamn I love videogames when they are made with passion
Luipadre
Member
Its just not for him. This game is definitely not for everyone, but when it clicks, it clicks hard.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Compare this to some of the sidequests from FF7 Remake for example where you have to pick 5 flowers and bring them back to some npc. This is what we need in these games, mature content and missions that are meaningful and dont feel like you are wasting your time doing stupid stuff
Gonzito
Gold Member
I think SlimmySnake is a great guy, dont take it personal. He is a guy with a very particular taste, and I don't blame him if he doesnt have enough patience to play the game because this is made on purpose. KCD2 doesn't reward you immediately, instant gratification doesnt work here. You have to understand the gameplay and the systems, be patience, learn, make mistakes, improve Henry etc and not everyone will have the power to do it but when you invest time and click with the game then it's a great feeling. The same thing happened to me with Bloodborne as well, I was struggling a lot until it clicked.
Luipadre
Member
Yeah but you need good writing and characters too like this one. Last rpg i played was veilguard, the contrast between the 2 games is incredibly in terms of writing and characters. This feels so natural and lots of funny af moments too. Today is wedding time... i think
Already got good gear, 2k+ coin, combat feels even better with master strike
I definitely agree with that, and I'm not saying it doesn't have its issues. Still, for me it's probably the most engaging game since RDR2.
Markio128
Member
I managed to find Pebbles, so all is good on the horse front.
Hilariously, I didn’t realise until yesterday that I could fast travel between the main towns/villages!
I’m currently trying to make some money via alchemy and blacksmithing so I can buy some decent gear and do a bit of weapon training. I’m also trying to figure out where that bloody gamekeeper is.
Rien
Jelly Belly
Bought it.
PectacularOz
Member
Gonzito
Gold Member
The games forces you to use your brain. I love it
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Haha no, no, I meant the one in your phone.
shubik
Member
There is a difference between having clever design that forces you to think without handholding and just straight up unforgiving mechanics. You basically have to save quit to try stuff out. Otherwise you have to do the same thing over and over again. That’s just frustrating and has nothing to do with using your brain in my opinion.
Gonzito
Gold Member
But what exactly did you struggled with? I did pass the conversation check with the guy that allows you to wall freely around the castle and had no issues. The game has a lot of options to do things and if it got so hard for you it means you did something wrong that made it harder
shubik
Member
I failed the skill check and had to sneak around. That made it much more difficult.