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[truth411]

He was asking about the comments in 2013 and 2014 which only reference those two titles. I've never said anything about any other Capcom titles to my knowledge, except the other posts last month. Try not to overthink things. You're talking about posts from a very long time ago. Everything I knew then, isn't the same as what I know today, and what I know today isn't going to be the same as what I know tomorrow etc.

That's time. We change, we grow old, and then we die.

Lol, what movie is that image from?

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Lol, what movie is that image from?

Black snake moan

 

[XxRampage07xX]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...

they done closed down.

Bigbig Studios, Zipper Interactive, Incognito, and Studio Liverpool all deserved a better future. But, they've gone forever. Is there any chance they (or at least one of them) will be resurrected from the dead because I really want to see and play their pieces of work again?

 

[Elfstruck]

I don't know where the rumors about two SCEJ developed RPGs came from but I would take those rumors with a grain of salt.

Its from Verendus, and its possible since sony needs to make at least some jrpgs this gen.

 

[GorillaJu]

Its from Verendus, and its possible since sony needs to make at least some jrpgs this gen.

What makes you think Sony needs to make JRPGs this gen? And what accurate info regarding SCEJ has Verendus given in the past that indicates we should listen to his rumors?

 

[Inuhanyou]

I would say that Sony has been giving their devs more freedom to do what they want lately. Japan Studio is probably working on Gravity Rush 2 as we speak for PS4. If that can get okayed, i don't see why a JRPG could not...

I mean...there was that Wild Arms and Arc the Lad trademark a little while back..

Adam Boyes and the gang worked to get Tales of Hearts localized, and Persona 5 to PS4, i think they care a bit more about those kind of games than some give them credit

 

[GorillaJu]

Tales of Hearts and Persona 5 are third party games, not internally developed at SCEJ.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Bigbig Studios, Zipper Interactive, Incognito, and Studio Liverpool all deserved a better future. But, they've gone forever. Is there any chance they (or at least one of them) will be resurrected from the dead because I really want to see and play their pieces of work again?

Incog wasn't the same as the others you mentioned. A large part of that studio left to found LightBox Interactive, so Sony either had to spend a lot of time and money rebuilding it or just close it down. They went with the latter, offering the remaining staff jobs at Sony Santa Monica.

What makes you think Sony needs to make JRPGs this gen? And what accurate info regarding SCEJ has Verendus given in the past that indicates we should listen to his rumors?

Why wouldn't they make a JRPG this gen? They have every other gen.

As for Verendus' credibility, have you heard of a little game called Bloodborne?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Tales of Hearts and Persona 5 are third party games, not internally developed at SCEJ.

Who said they were..?

 

[GorillaJu]

I do not see any internal dev RPGs from Sony in the PS3 gen. WKC1 and 2 are external (Level 5) and Demon's Souls is as well, as we all know.

Who said they were..?

You implied what Adam Boyes wants and can do with third party relations has a bearing on what SCEJ develops.

 

[stryke]

As for Verendus' credibility, have you heard of a little game called Bloodborne?

I don't remember Bloodborne doing anything for Verendus' credibility. I recall it was Demonnite who teased it for the longest time.

 

[salromano]

I do not see any internal dev RPGs from Sony in the PS3 gen. WKC1 and 2 are external (Level 5) and Demon's Souls is as well, as we all know.



You implied what Adam Boyes wants and can do with third party relations has a bearing on what SCEJ develops.

All three of those games were developed in collaboration with SCE Japan Studio, just like The Order: 1886 is developed by Ready at Dawn in collaboration with SCE Santa Monica Studio. They're first-party productions.

 

[Inuhanyou]

You implied what Adam Boyes wants and can do with third party relations has a bearing on what SCEJ develops.

I used him as an exaple of someone from Sony being interested in supporting those types of titles.


I don't know anything about any titles that may or may not be in the works, but if we're talking about JRPG's, Sony has a Japanese branch obviously. So ruling out those types of games at any point in the future is ridiculous automatically, which is what i'm contesting you about.

 

[GorillaJu]

All three of those games were developed in collaboration with SCE Japan Studio, just like The Order: 1886 is developed by Ready at Dawn in collaboration with SCE Santa Monica Studio. They're first-party productions.

I don't know about the Order, but you're confusing production and development.

I used him as an exaple of someone from Sony being interested in supporting those types of titles.


I don't know anything about any titles that may or may not be in the works, but if we're talking about JRPG's, Sony has a Japanese branch obviously. So ruling out those types of games at any point in the future is ridiculous automatically, which is what i'm contesting you about.

I didn't rule them out in the future. I am saying that the rumor that SCEJ is developing two JRPGs right now is spurious sounding.

 

[Reveirg]

If they're collaborations with other studios, it's not farfetched to believe Sony could be working on a JRPG with Level-5 and another one with either MediaVision/, Tri-Ace, Marvelous AQL, Matrix, etc.

 

[LiquidSolid]

I do not see any internal dev RPGs from Sony in the PS3 gen. WKC1 and 2 are external (Level 5) and Demon's Souls is as well, as we all know.

Since when has being internally developed been a pre-requisite? All we know is that Sony are publishing them, not whether they're developing them. There's a decent chance one of them is being developed by Level 5.

I don't remember Bloodborne doing anything for Verendus' credibility. I recall it was Demonnite who teased it for the longest time.

From what I recall, they both teased it.

 

[WeWereGiants]

Since when has being internally developed been a pre-requisite? All we know is that Sony are publishing them, not whether they're developing them. There's a decent chance one of them is being developed by Level 5.

I agree with this. Highly likely the Level 5 RPG is one of those, I just hope it's a new IP and not another sequel to WKC.

 

[GorillaJu]

Since when has being internally developed been a pre-requisite? All we know is that Sony are publishing them, not whether they're developing them. There's a decent chance one of them is being developed by Level 5.



From what I recall, they both teased it.

Publishing, developing, producing are all different things. I've seen a lot of people talk about SCEJ developed RPGs.

We don't know anything yet, we're operating off of rumors. The only dev team currently unaccounted for from SCEJ is the Knack team. We know about GD2, GT7, Trico, we know about the external stuff like Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne, and the ongoing collabo on Destiny of Spirits and we can assume some project will be coming out from SCEJ with Morpheus.

We don't know anything about any JRPGs. I think it's likely Level 5 has something they're working on, but not SSJ proper.

 

[illmatic22]

This is a bit of a strange question to ask, don't you think? There's still a long time left in the PS4's life cycle, and there are always things happening, plans being made, or discussions taking place with various publishers. But in answer to your question, there is one more notable title at least. Beyond that, I couldn't say.

Cmon DMC5.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Publishing, developing, producing are all different things. I've seen a lot of people talk about SCEJ developed RPGs.

We don't know anything yet, we're operating off of rumors. The only dev team currently unaccounted for from SCEJ is the Knack team. We know about GD2, GT7, Trico, we know about the external stuff like Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne, and the ongoing collabo on Destiny of Spirits and we can assume some project will be coming out from SCEJ with Morpheus.

We don't know anything about any JRPGs. I think it's likely Level 5 has something they're working on, but not SSJ proper.

Some people are merely jumping to conclusions that it's developed by Japan Studio when in reality, I don't think Verendus has said anything about that.

While we're talking about the difference between publishing and developing though, I'll point out that there's a big difference between SCEJA (publisher) and Japan Studio (developer). There's also a difference between Japan Studio (Gravity Rush 2 and The Last Guardian) and Polyphony (GT7).

The Knack team's the only one unaccounted for? What happened to the Puppeteer team in all this then? Though I don't think they have strict teams like that anyway, pretty sure most staff move between projects depending on whether they're needed.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

the game with the female protagonist and robot dinosaurs? it's been cancelled???

No way! Speaking of that game, does anybody else feel the urge to land a gyrocopter on this robo-sauropod's flat head whenever they see it?

Leaked concept art.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

the game with the female protagonist and robot dinosaurs? it's been cancelled???

I know other people clarified what I meant, but I did indeed mean Stig Asmussen's game at SSM which was cancelled about a year ago.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I don't know where the rumors about two SCEJ developed RPGs came from but I would take those rumors with a grain of salt.

I'm pretty sure Verendus has said that himself given how often projects are cancelled, but he's said there is going to be two JRPGs from Japan Studio, one of those a big FF-level project and I'm not sure of the details on the other.

Bigbig Studios, Zipper Interactive, Incognito, and Studio Liverpool all deserved a better future. But, they've gone forever. Is there any chance they (or at least one of them) will be resurrected from the dead because I really want to see and play their pieces of work again?

Well, Sony did for some reason re-register Psygnosis a while back, but who knows if they're going to do anything with it.

We don't know anything yet, we're operating off of rumors. The only dev team currently unaccounted for from SCEJ is the Knack team.

What about the team who made Puppeteer? I recall that being a fair-sized team; about 90-100 staff as I recall.

Again, I think we should give it 18 months and see what plans Becker has got for Japan Studio before judging them either way. He's just come from heading up Santa Monica and making them one of Sony's best studios, so one would assume he's got his shit together and will return Japan Studio to their PS1 era former glory.

 

[GnawtyDog]

Thinking about it... couldn't the Stealth Game be a new Shinobido? Sony owns that IP, right?

The only Stealth PS IP that makes sense is Syphon Filter

(marketing wise at the very least plus it fills that genre pretty good).

It will not be coming from Bend that's for sure.

 

[WordsintheWater]

So in 2015 from Sony we should be getting

Rime
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Uncharted 4
The Order: 1886
Bloodborne
Until Dawn
No Man's Sky
Tearaway Unfolded

That's just an insane lineup. I know these all aren't made from first party studios, but I just wanted to acknowledge how awesome this year can be.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

So in 2015 from Sony we should be getting

Rime
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Uncharted 4
The Order: 1886
Bloodborne
Until Dawn
No Man's Sky
Tearaway Unfolded

That's just an insane lineup. I know these all aren't made from first party studios, but I just wanted to acknowledge how awesome this year can be.

Alienation and The Tomorrow Children as well.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

And hopefully Shadow of the Beast.

 

[delSai]

So... who thinks Project Code Z is one of the Games we talked about in this Thread?

 

[Denzar]

This "Horizon" game you guys are talking about. Is that the SSM game that got cancelled or the Dinosaur Guerrilla Made RPG?

 

[GnawtyDog]

This "Horizon" game you guys are talking about. Is that the SSM game that got cancelled or the Dinosaur Guerrilla Made RPG?

Guerrilla's RPG.

 

[Shabad]

The OP should add the XDev team, and mention all the second party collaborations :

XDev
Housemarque (Alienation, Super Stardust Ultra)
Wild Sheep (WiLD)
Arrowhead Game Studios (Helldivers)
Tequila Works (Rime)
Supermassive Games (Until Dawn)
Quantic Dream (???)
On The Metal (BigFest)

Japan Studios
Clap Hanz (Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf)
FROM Software (Bloodborne)
Q-Games (The Tomorrow Children)
Capcom (Deep Down)


Santa Monica Studios
Ready at Dawn (The Order: 1886)
The Chinese Room (Everybody's Gone to the Rapture)
Fun Bits Interactive (Fat Princess Adventures)
Funomena (Wattam)
Giant Sparrow (What Remains of Edith Finch)

San Diego Studios
The Bartlet Jones Supernatural Detective Agency (Drawn to Death)


The rest aren't affiliated to any first party teams afaik, so I wouldn't know where to put them ^^

Heavy Spectrum (Shadow of the Beast)
Insomniac Games (Ratchet & Clank)
Tarsier Studios (Hunger)
Valkyrie Entertainment (Guns Up!)
Queasy Games (???)

 

[yurinka]

Studio: Sony London
History: This is football, Singstar, Getaway, Eye Toy, PS Home,
Ps4 History: Singstar

Playstation 4 Projects:
Confirmed:

Rumour: According to an Advert, Sony London was hiring an vehicle & Environment Artist for their Ps4 Project
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=770390
Could it be the Return of Getaway?

Anyone think about Firesprite for WipEout?

They've been working on something for ages, and released The Playroom and Run Sackboy Run. So they're still tied closely to Sony.

Well, Sony did for some reason re-register Psygnosis a while back, but who knows if they're going to do anything with it.

What if Liverpool was working in a PS4 Wipeout when closed, some members remained there (London + Firesprite + Evolution) and are completing it to release it with Morpheus support?

 

[WordsintheWater]

Alienation and The Tomorrow Children as well.

Forgot about those, should be a great 2015

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

I don't remember Bloodborne doing anything for Verendus' credibility. I recall it was Demonnite who teased it for the longest time.

I'm pretty sure anyone could have called Bloodborne coming. Dark Souls 2 didn't have the original team and with Shu gushing over both franchises from the PS3 era, guessing a Demons Souls 2/new similar IP was inevitable.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

So in 2015 from Sony we should be getting

Rime
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Uncharted 4
The Order: 1886
Bloodborne
Until Dawn
No Man's Sky
Tearaway Unfolded

That's just an insane lineup. I know these all aren't made from first party studios, but I just wanted to acknowledge how awesome this year can be.

I agree, it's an excellent lineup and I'm going to own the lot. You know what bothers me though, I've been seeing those names for sometime now, and my first response is 'ugh, give me something new' before my brain clicks over. I absolutely detest the media and forums for creating that 'newnewnew' atmosphere; we're made to feel as if we're sick of things before we've even had them.

Every single game on that list I can't wait to play, but I don't feel excited when I look at it. Even though I am. Makes no sense.

Also, fcccccccccckkkkkkkkkkk there's a PS4 Super Stardust coming soon, isn't there? Man, I can't wait for that. SS:HD appears to be a game that dodges the 'ugh' feeling. I wonder if that's because it hasn't appeared much in the media and 'want' lists, and also because it will be undeniably brilliant.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Alienation and The Tomorrow Children as well.

Helldivers and Ratchet & Clank too.

I'm pretty sure anyone could have called Bloodborne coming. Dark Souls 2 didn't have the original team and with Shu gushing over both franchises from the PS3 era, guessing a Demons Souls 2/new similar IP was inevitable.

Incredibly easy to say in hindsight.

 

[delSai]

The OP should add the XDev team, and mention all the second party collaborations :

XDev
On The Metal (BigFest)

I wonder when this finally comes out...

 

[stryke]

I'm pretty sure anyone could have called Bloodborne coming. Dark Souls 2 didn't have the original team and with Shu gushing over both franchises from the PS3 era, guessing a Demons Souls 2/new similar IP was inevitable.

Whether one would have anticipated a joint between From and SCEJ is a different discussion. Demonnite was the only leaker that specifically mentioned the word "beast" pertaining to Bloodborne's tentative code name as Project Beast long before the trailer leak happened.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I wonder when this finally comes out...

The last details on it showed that it was now coming to the PS4 and PS3. So, that more than likely caused some delay.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

I'm pretty sure anyone could have called Bloodborne coming. Dark Souls 2 didn't have the original team and with Shu gushing over both franchises from the PS3 era, guessing a Demons Souls 2/new similar IP was inevitable.

Even in this thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807289&highlight=dark+souls+2 pointing out evidence of the possible existence of a From x SCEJ collaboration a lot of posters didn't believe it.

 

[JuanLatino]

To everyone who is interested in the Sony London Project

I just found this verendus post from last year

No idea about Wipeout. Maybe you'll get something similar to Rollcage in the future though. London will do something more core oriented, but you'll be waiting.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134071082&postcount=1066

Core oriented? Would Getaway be a core title???

 

[Auctopus]

I don't like reposting 'cause my comment didn't get read but people are still talking about it.

Unless Sony London are working on a AAA game besides this, THEIR UPCOMING TITLE IS A MORPHEUS GAME.

Job Listing...

...we're now embarking on exciting new concepts that showcase the recently announced Morpheus VR hardware, a Sony created head mounted display. This cutting-edge hardware allows us to push creativity, user-experience, and technology to incredible new heights, as we explore an exciting new era of immersive gaming.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

What if Liverpool was working in a PS4 Wipeout when closed, some members remained there (London + Firesprite + Evolution) and are completing it to release it with Morpheus support?

It's a nice thought but come on dude; don't do it to yourself!

The OP should add the XDev team, and mention all the second party collaborations :

XDev
Housemarque (Alienation, Super Stardust Ultra)
Wild Sheep (WiLD)
Arrowhead Game Studios (Helldivers)
Tequila Works (Rime)
Supermassive Games (Until Dawn)
Quantic Dream (???)
On The Metal (BigFest)

Japan Studios
Clap Hanz (Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf)
FROM Software (Bloodborne)
Q-Games (The Tomorrow Children)
Capcom (Deep Down)


Santa Monica Studios
Ready at Dawn (The Order: 1886)
The Chinese Room (Everybody's Gone to the Rapture)
Fun Bits Interactive (Fat Princess Adventures)
Funomena (Wattam)
Giant Sparrow (What Remains of Edith Finch)

San Diego Studios
The Bartlet Jones Supernatural Detective Agency (Drawn to Death)


The rest aren't affiliated to any first party teams afaik, so I wouldn't know where to put them ^^

Heavy Spectrum (Shadow of the Beast)
Insomniac Games (Ratchet & Clank)
Tarsier Studios (Hunger)
Valkyrie Entertainment (Guns Up!)
Queasy Games (???)

I thought JuanLatino was going to update the OP with all known projects, rumours and studios, but it seems he never did. From those you've listed, I'm really excited in Edith Finch (I loved TUS), Rapture, The Tomorrow Children, Helldivers and of course Bloodborne. (EDIT - and how could I forget RIME?!)

 

[Callibretto]

I was interested for HellDivers, but now I'm more hyped for Alienation. Is it this year?

 

[klee123]

I'm pretty sure anyone could have called Bloodborne coming. Dark Souls 2 didn't have the original team and with Shu gushing over both franchises from the PS3 era, guessing a Demons Souls 2/new similar IP was inevitable.

Not really, before Bloodbourne even got leaked as Project Beast, pretty much most of the people around here refused to believe that From would ever do an exclusive game with Sony ever again after how badly they treated Demon's Souls.

So much crow was served at E3 last year. Even up to the E3 Sony conference, people refused to believe that Project Beast was a PS4 exclusive.

 

[SnowFlakeCake]

Surely, just surely there must be a team of substance working on a new IP at Naughty Dog? I ain't got a clue how many people it takes to make an AAA game but recall someone here finding out that ND had something silly like 200+ employees around when TLOU was being developed. It can't be the case that there is not something brewing besides Uncharted 4, Hennig. If Richmond and Hennig stayed, quite obviously TLOU directors would not have sat there twiddling their thumbs until Uncharted 4 was completed.

Here's hoping it's a pretty big team already developing a new IP at Naughty Dog.

Not really, before Bloodbourne even got leaked as Project Beast, pretty much most of the people around here refused to believe that From would ever do an exclusive game with Sony ever again after how they treated Demon's Souls.

A lot of people were hopeful, the Dark Souls B team thread was hilarious because people were fooling themselves about something which was obviously happening. Few people of note working on Dark Souls 2 also worked on the first, they didn't just pack up and leave.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I don't like reposting 'cause my comment didn't get read but people are still talking about it.

Unless Sony London are working on a AAA game besides this, THEIR UPCOMING TITLE IS A MORPHEUS GAME.

Job Listing...

I *think* the available Morpheus demos were developed by London Studio (I believe there are a few but the only one I've seen footage of is the shark cage), so it could be that those are being expanded, or they're working on a full game for Morpheus. However, there have been rumours about London Studio working on a proper core game, so I hope they're doing something that's not SingStar and not Morpheus. I wouldn't mind a new Getaway, but honestly I'd prefer something altogether new from them. Didn't particularly care for either of the previous Getaway games, and I think they would have a very tough time staying on the ball in a world where R* North have raised the bar above the clouds with GTAV.

Surely, just surely there must be a team of substance working on a new IP at Naughty Dog? I ain't got a clue how many people it takes to make an AAA game but recall someone here finding out that ND had something silly like 200+ employees around when TLOU was being developed. It can't be the case that there is not something brewing besides Uncharted 4, Hennig. If Richmond and Hennig stayed, quite obviously TLOU directors would not have sat there twiddling their thumbs until Uncharted 4 was completed.

Here's hoping it's a pretty big team already developing a new IP at Naughty Dog.

I thought they were smaller than that, but you may be right. I thought they were about 150 strong, and I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of the studio is 100% focused on Uncharted 4. It could be that they have a second pre-production team working on something new while Druckmann & Straley lead on Uncharted, but that means I guess that they've either promoted internally or hired new creative folk since Hennig & Richmond left last year. Not outside the realms of believability, but I don't see it myself.

EDIT - I don't know how reliable it is as a source, but according to LinkedIn they have 260 employees?! That's much bigger than I thought. If that's accurate then I expect they must have, I don't know, 5-10% of those staff brainstorming for their next game and prototyping ideas. I think TLoU2 will be Druckmann and Straley, and they are completely tied up with UC4 for now.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Surely, just surely there must be a team of substance working on a new IP at Naughty Dog? I ain't got a clue how many people it takes to make an AAA game but recall someone here finding out that ND had something silly like 200+ employees around when TLOU was being developed. It can't be the case that there is not something brewing besides Uncharted 4, Hennig. If Richmond and Hennig stayed, quite obviously TLOU directors would not have sat there twiddling their thumbs until Uncharted 4 was completed.

Here's hoping it's a pretty big team already developing a new IP at Naughty Dog..

According to the GI article, the whole studio is working on Uncharted.

 

[Callibretto]

Surely, just surely there must be a team of substance working on a new IP at Naughty Dog? I ain't got a clue how many people it takes to make an AAA game but recall someone here finding out that ND had something silly like 200+ employees around when TLOU was being developed. It can't be the case that there is not something brewing besides Uncharted 4, Hennig. If Richmond and Hennig stayed, quite obviously TLOU directors would not have sat there twiddling their thumbs until Uncharted 4 was completed.

Here's hoping it's a pretty big team already developing a new IP at Naughty Dog.



A lot of people were hopeful, the Dark Souls B team thread was hilarious because people were fooling themselves about something which was obviously happening. Few people of note working on Dark Souls 2 also worked on the first, they didn't just pack up and leave.

They don't have 2 full team working on 2 AAA games. They probably have smaller team developing either new ip or tlou 2 In addition of uncharted 4

 

[Nightengale]

According to the GI article, the whole studio is working on Uncharted.

Where, specifically was it mentioned?