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Al Pachinko, Konami President
The transition to 3D was like SM64 and OOT
I hope you still enjoy it, even tho you're 20 years lttp.
The transition to 3D was like SM64 and OOT
I hope you still enjoy it, even tho you're 20 years lttp.
SomeNorseGuy
Member
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Explain what was wrong about what I said instead of just being an ass.
Maybe you can't.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Well that is what you do in Metroid Prime games. Lots of scanning. That's like half the game, bub.
Zannegan
Member
Fair, though that should apply to MP4's screens as well. For what it's worth, I think PS4-era games look as good as ever, especially something like Infamous: Second Son. Some of the best looking PS3/360 games though, at least those aiming for realism, just haven't aged as well, IMO.
Honestly, that's part of why I'm excited for Nintendo to make the next jump. I'm not a graphics snob by any means, but I'll be happy to have a new baseline.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
LavitzSlambert
Member
I am really excited for this, and think the trailer looked great. Metroid in general is very "low energy" in terms of shit happening on screen at a given moment. I do agree the series could advance most in combat, there is no reason they can't go in a direction more like the newer Doom games. But at the heart of the series are puzzles and exploration, even during combat and in boss battles.
The psychic powers can seem generic, but I really liked the guided beam power - there is so much they can do with that alone, and combined with other abilities/upgrades I can see some really fun potential as a Metroid fan. Those who haven't played Metroid or the Prime series probably can't comprehend, they have nothing to go on.
Also, loving the new suit look.
The psychic powers can seem generic, but I really liked the guided beam power - there is so much they can do with that alone, and combined with other abilities/upgrades I can see some really fun potential as a Metroid fan. Those who haven't played Metroid or the Prime series probably can't comprehend, they have nothing to go on.
Also, loving the new suit look.
I don't see it. From models' details, textures, physics, animation works, lighting, etc., MP4 is clearly better than Remastered.
Especially the details between the two monsters, from polycount to texture details, the difference is massive.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I don't see it. From models' details, textures, physics, animation works, lighting, etc., MP4 is clearly better than Remastered.
Especially the details between the two monsters, from polycount to texture details, the difference is massive.
It's better in some ways and worse in others to my eyes.
Donkusei
Member
Just different lighting I guess (and the poor quality of his pic).
Overall MPR and MP4 look pretty close to my eyes, which is "normal" I would say because MPR is already one the most beautiful games on Switch and they use the same engine on the same hardware.
(900p / 60 fps game but the pics were made with the capture feature on Switch, which is not that good, compression and 720p, it still looks good)
Variahunter
Member
I'm a huge Metroid fan (pseudo is shamelessly inspired from the Varia suit and Samus is a hunter... duh huh), but I've never been completely on board with the Prime art direction as I think it should go back to its horror/tension/sci-fi roots (Super Metroid). Don't get me wrong, I've loved Prime 1 and 2 and it was my most anticipated game on GC back in the day (even dreaming about it...).
But, something in the Prime series was missing. Prime has almost nothing to do with the original ambiance from Alien, and it's a shame. You won't ever be afraid in the Prime series. It's atmospheric for sure, but it leans towards wonder instead of dread and horror the series was originally known for. The music is totally different in tone, the graphics show absolutely no gore (while they did on a SNES system...) and nothing is oppressing in the atmosphere (aside from some part of Prime 2).
And don't get me started on the gameplay, which was a good thing on its own, but was absolutely not a good 2D to 3D translation.
Samus agility is completely gone, she's a fucking tank. The lock-on is a disgrace but was a necessity with the abysmal second joystick of the GC gamepad. They kept the exploration part, but totally shifted the main gameplay element, leaning towards analysis and puzzles with a bit of assisted shooting. To this day, this is why 2D Metroid and Prime have almost nothing in common except the exploration part.
Other M was a good step in the right direction but was ultimately mediocre for other reasons.
I've been longing for a 3rd person action/platformer/shooter (akin to Returnal for example, without the rogue aspect and some light BTA additions like in Other M) with more emphasis on the platforming part. And I've been deceived by Other M, which is ok but really not what I wanted for that IP, being constrained by the Wii remote and Sakamoto (lastly) idiotic ideas.
Also, I felt like Metroid Prime 4 was more beautiful in its reveal than in the second trailer. Weird. Hopefully the difference is meaningful on Switch 2 (if there's a Switch 2 version, but I don't see why they wouldn't do that...). On another hand, I'm not that excited by ANOTHER Prime and they showed nothing different from the first 3 episodes.
But I'll still buy it anyway...
But, something in the Prime series was missing. Prime has almost nothing to do with the original ambiance from Alien, and it's a shame. You won't ever be afraid in the Prime series. It's atmospheric for sure, but it leans towards wonder instead of dread and horror the series was originally known for. The music is totally different in tone, the graphics show absolutely no gore (while they did on a SNES system...) and nothing is oppressing in the atmosphere (aside from some part of Prime 2).
And don't get me started on the gameplay, which was a good thing on its own, but was absolutely not a good 2D to 3D translation.
Samus agility is completely gone, she's a fucking tank. The lock-on is a disgrace but was a necessity with the abysmal second joystick of the GC gamepad. They kept the exploration part, but totally shifted the main gameplay element, leaning towards analysis and puzzles with a bit of assisted shooting. To this day, this is why 2D Metroid and Prime have almost nothing in common except the exploration part.
Other M was a good step in the right direction but was ultimately mediocre for other reasons.
I've been longing for a 3rd person action/platformer/shooter (akin to Returnal for example, without the rogue aspect and some light BTA additions like in Other M) with more emphasis on the platforming part. And I've been deceived by Other M, which is ok but really not what I wanted for that IP, being constrained by the Wii remote and Sakamoto (lastly) idiotic ideas.
Also, I felt like Metroid Prime 4 was more beautiful in its reveal than in the second trailer. Weird. Hopefully the difference is meaningful on Switch 2 (if there's a Switch 2 version, but I don't see why they wouldn't do that...). On another hand, I'm not that excited by ANOTHER Prime and they showed nothing different from the first 3 episodes.
But I'll still buy it anyway...
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
Higher resolution, and that's pretty much it. Seems like this really is a Switch 1 game, it's just getting the "Pro" treatment on Switch 2.
nordique
Member
Robb
Gold Member
cireza
Member
Probably going to be the only Nintendo game to be 120fps for the entire gen, thanks to Retro Studios.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Night vs later that night
Aldric
Member
Really? You think their 2D games won't get the option? I'd be surprised if Metroid 6 didn't have it for ex, and for 3D games I could see it for the next Splatoon since the franchise generally has simple geometry.
Robb
Gold Member
It's all very strange.
If it'd be available at launch I feel they would've told us though.. They did for Mario Kart World. So seems unlikely.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
The game's not dated, yet. It's not strange at all. The Switch version is 2025 TBA. So of course the Switch 2 Edition would also not have a date.
Hohenheim
Member
Yep. Maybe it's their holiday game. Oh well, in that case i'll get the new Switch when this game releases.
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah but if it's launch title it should've been mentioned, and dated, today. So I assume it's not.The game's not dated, yet. It's not strange at all. The Switch version is 2025 TBA. So of course the Switch 2 Edition would also not have a date.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Yeah I would say it's clearly not. It's Mario Kart and a bunch of third party ports at launch. And GameCube NSO. Then DK in July. Kirby Forgotten Land port in August with the new content. So Prolly August or September if I had to guess.
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cireza
Member
It will only happen in the few games where the developers bothered having a lightweight, optimized engine. I am really skeptical, but we shall see.
Doesn't look like it is much better yeah...
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Shaki12345
Gold Member
Metroid Prime 4 should have never been announced for Switch. Now the game will look less on S2 because of them announcing it for S1.
I hate cross gen ports. We had to wait for almost 20 years to then get a end of lifecycle game?
Ugh.
I hate cross gen ports. We had to wait for almost 20 years to then get a end of lifecycle game?
Ugh.
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Walliwallipaloo
Neo Member
But... it's my favorite color. Why can't you just let me have my moment?!Great trailer... but I hate this f*cking purple in everything trend. Everything is purple now
Javi97
Member
the brain of an Xbox series S, the muscle of the One S and the Nvidia Dlss glasses
Mister Wolf
Member
You'll know when DF cover Hogwarts Legacy PS4 vs Switch 2. Same for Elden Ring and Cyberpunk.
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STARSBarry
Gold Member
Just realised, looks like the events of Federation Force resulted in the feds getting new weapons
The mechs from Federation Force have turned into.
Hope you get to pilot one for a boss fight or something.
The mechs from Federation Force have turned into.
Hope you get to pilot one for a boss fight or something.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
It's a preference thing, but I really hate when Metroid games have all the other soldiers and forces involved.
All the classic games were just you and the alien environment. The only thing I want to see from the Federation is hollowed out and destroyed ships or wreckage. Solitude was absolutely key to the franchise and not something it can change without losing its identity.
All the classic games were just you and the alien environment. The only thing I want to see from the Federation is hollowed out and destroyed ships or wreckage. Solitude was absolutely key to the franchise and not something it can change without losing its identity.
Hyet
Member
I really hope the next step in the series is taking a look at more dinamic/parkour FPS games like Titanfall 2, COD Infinite Warfare and such and make Prime Samus closer to her 2D incarnation in the platforming and movility aspects. I think they can do interesting stuff with it specially when you throw the morphball in and make the transition seamless while running and conserving momentum in the air and such.
Robb
Gold Member
Agreed, I think it's fine for a cool looking intro sequence, but hopefully that's it.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Would be crazy if you beat MP4 it unlocks a separate Federation Force Campaign that's mission based and can be played solo or 4 player online.
Variahunter
Member
FPS isn't interesting anymore for this series. You'll never have the same agility, mobility and action readability in FPS.
And I frankly never understood why everybody thought that it was a good 2D to 3D translation for Samus. The gameplay is very basic, the scanning system while fun in the beginning becomes tedious after a while, and now it feels overdone.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I need a 3D Metroid mixed with Doom 3. That's the dream. Give me this heavy exploration based Survival Horror Metroid and I'm there.
GFS Valhalla was so peak in MP3.