GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
buuuuut halo has better combat i hopes they fix it
Metroid Prime 4, 17 minutes gameplay 4K60
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vodka-bull
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Halo 1 was revolutionary. MP1 was revolutionary.
Halo 2 was a solid successor. MP2 was a solid successor.
Halo 3 finished the trilogy incredibly good. MP3 was crap.
Everything else named Halo sucked as well compared to the first trilogy.
MP4 looks more like MP3 than MP1/2.
Grizzled Ghost
Member
Man they really know how to make a large scale battle seem boring. Space pirates are leading an orbital invasion against a military base full of giant mechs, this should be awesome as hell.
Compare this to the opening of Killzone 2 for instance, that felt like a war zone.
Compare this to the opening of Killzone 2 for instance, that felt like a war zone.
SimTourist
Member
To be fair nothing felt like KZ2 before or since, and MP4 is aiming at kids with blasters and colorful enemies that disappear upon death, it's closer to Fortnite than killzone
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Grizzled Ghost
Member
Yeah, you're right. I played Prime remastered last year and enjoyed it plenty, I don't know why 4 just seems so slow and boring to me by comparison.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I am actually really quite surprised at how much better it is.
60fps and 4k just seals the deal.
Switch 2 is going to be amazing.
LordOcidax
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Mozza
Member
When you post things like that people do not take you all that seriously. Why not go the full hog and suggest it's like a NES game im 4K.
Mozza
Member
I think they had just revealed is so long ago they had to release it on the Switch for the fans. The Switch's install base was a bit of a motivator as well.
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kiphalfton
Member
No doubt.
In the past it's always been a matter of pretending like the two were mutually exclusive.
Whatever the case, good to finally see games running on native Nintendo hardware at UHD.
Luminoth-4545
Member
Correct. The lighting, shadows and textures are a generation ahead, the only thing the same is the geometry.
Tell’em Keb
Member
It bothers me that in this day and age, the laser beams don’t seem to light the environment around them. If they do, and I’m just blind, it isn’t as noticeable as I’d prefer for a game where laser beams are everywhere.
Besides that. I’m just not impressed by the look of this at all. It feels locked in the past and if foliage can’t be modeled any better than on GameCube, then don’t do it.
It feels bizarre to be as huge a Nintendo/Retro fan to be feeling as disappointed as I am with what has been shown, gameplay-wise, as has been.
Besides that. I’m just not impressed by the look of this at all. It feels locked in the past and if foliage can’t be modeled any better than on GameCube, then don’t do it.
It feels bizarre to be as huge a Nintendo/Retro fan to be feeling as disappointed as I am with what has been shown, gameplay-wise, as has been.
Midway-AGNC-
Neo Member
For any doubter still remaining, this is a crystal clear example of how Switch 2's hardware is a big jump from Switch 1.
Codes 208
Member
Halo single handily saved xbox for a time
Nintendo forgor metroid prime
That kinda speaks for itself.
Mozza
Member
The Metroid prime games have never been massive sellers. Nintendo does not need this game to save their console... and it would not be able to do so if it had too. That being said this game has the [otential to be the best selling Metroid prime game ever. But Mario Kart Word is the Switch 2's killer app by a massive margin.
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Mozza
Member
Only salty gaffers in denial.
VeganElduderino
Member
Yeah, the prices killed it for them! New consoles always been priced around that price...
Mozza
Member
When you consider the Switch OLED launched at $349 and the Switch 2 is only $100 more. And the new console has much more power, larger screen and memory and a cooling fan built into the dock etc etc... The price is pretty cheap. Hell, even allowing for inflation on the launch Switch OLED you would be paying more.
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VeganElduderino
Member
Exactly! I don't see anything wrong with the pricing! It's probably the 80$ games thats fucking with them too! Some N64 games were priced at 100$ Canadian back in the day..
Mozza
Member
This was the same with TOTK. In the U.K it was suggested at £70. But at launch you could easily pick it up for £10-15 less. Case in point Mario Kart World's suggested £80 price tag. I have just placed two pre-orders for the base Switch, Mario Kart World and new Pro controller. One for me and one for my sister. Mario Kart World is priced at £70 in both these orders.... and the game has not even released as yet..There is no way you are not going to be able too get this for £60-£70 at launch. People often confuse a suggested retail price with the actual price you end up paying. Or more likely they ignore this fact as it does not support their faux outrage.
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kunonabi
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Game looks like more of the same junk that made corruption so uninteresting. I will never understand Nintendo's obsession with making sylux or whatever his name is a thing.
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Hero_Select
Member
We've only seen that beginning section of the game though and it ends with Samus getting blasted by that artifact. We don't know what the rest of the game is like.
Ramiro_Rodriguez
Neo Member
Nothing is on par with Halo 4. Nothing!
When the "graphical lighthouse game" is only on par with a 13 years old xbox 360 game, is the switch 2 underwhelming. At least the hardware power.
Ramiro_Rodriguez
Neo Member
It depends on how good the port looks and runs.
I haven't seen anything that looks so good like The Last of Us Part II, Uncharted the Lost Legacy or like Horizon Forbidden West.
I see Cyberpunk 2077, that has drops and runs between 540p-1080p.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yeah everything a faux outrage, easy peasy for everyone to buy below MSRP. Have you been PR-ing for nVIDIA 5xxx series too recently? They need this kind of optimismThis was the same with TOTK. In the U.K it was suggested at £70. But at launch you could easily pick it up for £10-15 less. Case in point Mario Kart World's suggested £80 price tag. I have just placed two pre-orders for the base Switch, Mario Kart World and new Pro controller. One for me and one for my sister. Mario Kart World is priced at £70 in both these orders.... and the game has not even released as yet..There is no way you are not going to be able too get this for £60-£70 at launch. People often confuse a suggested retail price with the actual price you end up paying. Or more likely they ignore this fact as it does not support their faux outrage.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
By this logic Switch 2 OLED can be £499, Switch 3 £599, Switch 3 OLED £649, Switch 4 £749, etc… technology is meant to get better with time at the same or similar cost. In 8 years the main change was the screen and now the new SoC with the new generation machine.
Almost 30% increase is a bit more than “only a bit more” when the price was already stretching it for some of their target market (Nintendo’s lateral thinking with withered technology was deliberate to keep costs down and the machine affordable).
Team Andromeda
Member
Looks so poor and so much like Halo 5 on a base Xbox One
MaxwellParrish
Member
I don't understand your point. In my experience, at least since the Playstation 2 times you could find pretty much every popular game at launch for about a 15% discount on the suggested price tag at the right retailer. But as the official price tag increase, the discounted price increase also, so people who have always been watching for these kind of promotions are going to pay more than before anyway so why they shouldn't be outraged ?This was the same with TOTK. In the U.K it was suggested at £70. But at launch you could easily pick it up for £10-15 less. Case in point Mario Kart World's suggested £80 price tag. I have just placed two pre-orders for the base Switch, Mario Kart World and new Pro controller. One for me and one for my sister. Mario Kart World is priced at £70 in both these orders.... and the game has not even released as yet..There is no way you are not going to be able too get this for £60-£70 at launch. People often confuse a suggested retail price with the actual price you end up paying. Or more likely they ignore this fact as it does not support their faux outrage.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Graphics looks crazy good.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I think it looked quite nice on the Switch 2, the Switch version was weirdly pale in the comparison video. But its Switch roots really makes it feel like just a GC game remaster. The level design, animation of the enemies and its overall assets makes it feel very, very dated. I hope Rare gets to do a Prime 5 with only the Switch 2 in mind. And I hope it becomes more like Alien and horror instead of Halo.
Vaquilla
Member
We haven't seen anything actually attempting to look like those games yet, and the Cyberpunk gameplay was a 7 week old build.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Picture on the left looks as good as any PS4 title tbh.
Either this just an act or people are that fucking stupid and thats "nicest" way I can put it.
You need an Xbox One X to run Halo: MCC at 4K60, and you still get occasional frame drops. So, no even "Halo 4" class graphics are not underwhelming for a handheld device running at that framerate/resolution. Going from 1080p30 to to 4K60 alone requires ~6X more power.
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Hero_Select
Member
Funny thing is you know deep down theyre like "Damn.. this is actually pretty impressive"
And then they remember they have to shill for Sony because god forbid they show any kind of enthusiasm for games not made by Sony.
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah, that’s what I’m most interested to know more about. I can’t say they sold me on it during the trailer, looked kind of ’tacked on’, if you will.
I really hope they’ve come up with some cool stuff.
MagusMajul
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Metroid Prime was such a revelation when it originally released. It felt as big a leap as Mario 64 or Zelda OoT.
This feels like the same game as Prime, 20+ years later.
I'm talking about gameplay only.
Obviously this isn't an issue that's exclusive to Metroid in any way. Lots of franchises reach a point where they don't evolve too much between releases.
But at least Zelda had a transformative shift with BotW. Pikmin as well with 4. And Mario hopefully will have something like that this generation.
The new Mario Kart looks like a significant evolution of the formula, gameplay wise.
This feels like the same game with new graphics, and it's disappointing.
This feels like the same game as Prime, 20+ years later.
I'm talking about gameplay only.
Obviously this isn't an issue that's exclusive to Metroid in any way. Lots of franchises reach a point where they don't evolve too much between releases.
But at least Zelda had a transformative shift with BotW. Pikmin as well with 4. And Mario hopefully will have something like that this generation.
The new Mario Kart looks like a significant evolution of the formula, gameplay wise.
This feels like the same game with new graphics, and it's disappointing.
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
The original Switch was 3800 SEK at launch here in Sweden. A Switch OLED is 4300 SEK. 500 SEK is around $50, so that makes sense.
The Switch 2 is 6800 SEK without Mario Kart. With it, 7500 SEK.
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kevboard
Member
I would agree with you if this was any other genre.
but the thing is, there barely are any good 3D action adventures these days anymore, let alone in the Meteoidvania subgenre, which is basically nonexistent in 3D and is mainly a genre kept alive by 2D low budget titles (like the absolutely brilliant PoP The Lost Crown that everyone should play).
if you have a game in a genre that's nearly dead, being oldschool can be a good thing.
I think this is why so man Zelda fans want the OoT formula back, because Zelda kept oldschool 3D action adventures alive. and when it changed to a more open freeform game with BotW, some saw that as disappointing... sure you'll get the occasional game like Darksiders, but what besides Darksiders 1 and maybe even 2 is there? and these games are already 15 and 13 years old respectively...
the Soul Reaver remaster is one... but, it's a remaster.
other long running franchises like Resident Evil, that maybe started out as action adventures, often morphed into different genres. now the most you'll see in RE are hints at the original action adventures roots but they aren't action adventures anymore ever since RE4.
even modern Tomb Raider games can barely be called action adventures anymore, as they tried to follow the trend set by Uncharted, where action adventure elements are basically faked to give the illusion of gameplay variety.
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Polygonal_Sprite
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And like Mario Kart World the game was built around hitting an 8 millisecond budget for it's 120fps mode. Considering that info all the Switch 2 games that have 120fps modes are astounding looking! People forget, it's a sub $500 hybrid console lol... Go look at those premium handheld prices :O
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Did you just imply Mario kart world is 120fps? There's no way.
Team Andromeda
Member
This game looks better than Halo 5
Hardly and if you;re going to use a Switch 2 shot then at least compare it too Halo 5 on the One X
This game looks better than Halo 5
They look like they're from the same game, and this level looks so much like Prime 2 . Its almost like the Halo 5 team made Prime 2
