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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]

But that's who the Wii U is already selling to... :/

Their most ardent of fanbase will buy the $350 system that just has Nintendo games with a confusing controller that hasn't really shown it's necessity/doesn't really address any major pain point.
They'll buy those key sub-brands Mario Kart, Smash, Super Mario in big numbers.
They'll buy 2 or 3 or a dozen $15 accessories.

I agree, they need to do more to regain the western audience....

I really like what Colin was saying on the podcast "What happened to Nintendo" where he was talking about how all these weird hardware choices have turned 3rd party off, and how they just need to stop trying be be different, and just make a console that has top of the line easy-to-develop-for tech in it!

If they could regain the 3rd party support that they had back in the old days, then I think that a lot of their problems would be solved.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Member
PS4 may lead world wide sales but they can't claim they are the best console in the US during the holidays. MS takes back the US in fashion.

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"In fashion" is dropping the price twice in 12 months to maintain a semblance of sales numbers?

I guess the HP Touchpad was a resounding success then.

Sony should drop PS4 to 320 and release PS4 slim for 399.

How much slimmer can it get at this point though?
 
With Xbox One dominating PS4 in console sales by around 500,000 consoles over November and December, it doesn't surprise me that the Xbox One would win December in Software Sales over PS4 for most titles.


You have 500,000 new Xbox One owners who need some new games to play on their shiny new console. I know when I bought my PS4, I bought like 4 games with it at launch.


Sure, the PS4 has a larger install base, but that doesn't necessarily mean those that owned the PS4 before the holidays are going to buy more games that those that got a brand new system for the holidays.


The Xbox One software sales are still very impressive, but having so many new console owners, and so many MORE new console owners than new PS4 owners, plays a very big part of that.
 

Schryver

Member
I say Bloodborne will sale over 3 million in it's first year. People underestimate just how large a following souls games has.

Yeah. And if it gets insane reviews then even more people who don't really know about the Souls games will hopefully try it out
 

Papacheeks

Banned
Even though Bloodborne is my most anticipated game of 2015, this is probably sadly true. The masses just want to play FPS and sports games all year long. Of course, I would be overjoyed if Bloodborne was a runaway success :)

Interesting NPD, looks like the aggressive pricing worked wonders for the bone and I'm especially surprised with the edge in software for December. I'm guessing a spike of new bone owners needed new bone games.

For everybody's sake, hopefully Sony can remain in front because that is the only way all of the bone faithful will keep getting good deals, otherwise it is back to sandpaper loving for all of them.

That's so untrue, Infamous:SS sold better than titanfall did for Xbox one. Actually sold close to 2 Million if I'm not mistaken.

Which is pretty damn good for a game that came out in March.

BloodBourne will do much better as there's more hype behind that game, especially after they showed CO-OP.

Dark Souls player's and online junkies are going to eat that shit up mark my words.

The order, I'll be surprised if it selling past 1.5-2 Million.

But Bloodbourne has potential to do 3-4 on it's own.
 
Im terms of top 10 software sales: I like how dragon age comes in for a month, wins GOTY, then disappears off the face of the earth.

You don't need to be in top ten during holiday season to sell well. According the ''leakers'' it did just fine during November. For December we still don't know.
 
Even though Bloodborne is my most anticipated game of 2015, this is probably sadly true. The masses just want to play FPS and sports games all year long. Of course, I would be overjoyed if Bloodborne was a runaway success :)

Interesting NPD, looks like the aggressive pricing worked wonders for the bone and I'm especially surprised with the edge in software for December. I'm guessing a spike of new bone owners needed new bone games.

For everybody's sake, hopefully Sony can remain in front because that is the only way all of the bone faithful will keep getting good deals, otherwise it is back to sandpaper loving for all of them.

bone




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Road

Member
Dreamcast final total (28 months): ~4.1 million

Wii U current total (26 months): ~3.7 million

Wii U should beat the Dreamcast this year, in six months or so.

And for the curious, Gamecube after 26 months: ~6.7 million
 

kyser73

Member
Honest question, do people really expect Bloodborne to sell tons and move lots of PS4s?

I think it'll sell well (I also anticipate it'll be up there in most-traded in once people realise how hard it is), and it will bring in a reasonable contingent of PC owners who will use it to make their console purchase if the comments on the Bloodborne threads on here are anything to go by.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
With Xbox One dominating PS4 in console sales by around 500,000 consoles over November and December, it doesn't surprise me that the Xbox One would win December in Software Sales over PS4 for most titles.


You have 500,000 new Xbox One owners who need some new games to play on their shiny new console. I know when I bought my PS4, I bought like 4 games with it at launch.


Sure, the PS4 has a larger install base, but that doesn't necessarily mean those that owned the PS4 before the holidays are going to buy more games that those that got a brand new system for the holidays.


The Xbox One software sales are still very impressive, but having so many new console owners, and so many MORE new console owners than new PS4 owners, plays a very big part of that.

wut the fuk
 

Kill3r7

Member
That's so untrue, Infamous:SS sold better than titanfall did for Xbox one. Actually sold close to 2 Million if I'm not mistaken.

Which is pretty damn good for a game that came out in March.

BloodBourne will do much better as there's more hype behind that game, especially after they showed CO-OP.

Dark Souls player's and online junkies are going to eat that shit up mark my words.

The order, I'll be surprised if it selling past 1.5-2 Million.

But Bloodbourne has potential to do 3-4 on it's own.

Where are you getting the Titanfall and Infamous numbers from?
 
Yes, their launch was handled poorly. But the "Nintendo core" are those who purchased the system despite its foibles.

I really don't see a strategy of designing the system for the segment that will buy the system, regardless of what kind of system you design, as sound for some sort of recovery from their current position.
They need to go beyond the "Nintendo core."

Hence my add of focus on expanding their core IPs through stuff like Amiibos. I'll be honest I don't see major 3rd party support happening with Nintendo anytime soon. They need to focus entirely on their strengths which is their core IP. Its the only path to success, not tablet controllers, and Fireworks at E3
 
Also take into account Bloodborne will have the sales from Souls fans but its still a new IP and everything shown hasn't looked incredibly niche or overly sluggish like DS so it might still have some appeal to newcomers.
 

CrisKre

Member
Dreamcast final total (28 months): ~4.1 million

Wii U current total (26 months): ~3.7 million

Wii U should beat the Dreamcast this year, in six months or so.

And for the curious, Gamecube after 26 months: ~6.7 million

At what price did dreamcast leave the stage at?

I think the Wii U hasn´t reached its sweet spot pricing yet, and I hope for the health of the ecosystem they find a way to reduce the price and make those gamepads a bit cheaper...
 

tomhan

Member
I love the spin that consumers provide for these numbers. It's fascinating that gigantic corporations whose goal it is to take as much of your money as possible engender this amount of blind support.

The goal should always be a tight race between Sony and Microsoft so they engage in price wars that keep the prices down across the board. Wanting one to destroy the other is not only dumb it's asking them to charge you more for hardware and software.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Actually yes. It's a sleeper hit. Souls games have gotten really strong following and even the PC players are looking forward to get PS4 and Bloodborne (at least that's how it is in Finland).

Yup. I have a roommate who is a Souls affiniado much like myself. He intends to get PS4 because of Bloodborne. It is the only game he is interested ín on the system, at least for now, but it is enough.
 

gioGAF

Member
That's so untrue, Infamous:SS sold better than titanfall did for Xbox one. Actually sold close to 2 Million if I'm not mistaken.

Which is pretty damn good for a game that came out in March.

BloodBourne will do much better as there's more hype behind that game, especially after they showed CO-OP.

Dark Souls player's and online junkies are going to eat that shit up mark my words.

The order, I'll be surprised if it selling past 1.5-2 Million.

But Bloodbourne has potential to do 3-4 on it's own.
I really want your version of how things will play out for Bloodborne to be true. Didn't Dark Souls 1 sell around 3 million during its first year on 3 platforms?
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Also take into account Bloodborne will have the sales from Souls fans but its still a new IP and everything shown hasn't looked incredibly niche or overly sluggish like DS so it might still have some appeal to newcomers.
And ridiculously good graphics.
 

Popnbake

Member
It won´t be Wonderful 101, no.

I believe at minimum it will be like Captain Toad, which wouldn´t be great either.

But it could turn out to be a disappointment still. Jury is out on whether this type of new franchises aimed at a more broad audience can find success in this market.

I really really hope it finds success. It looks to hit the right notes, but it depends on how they market it and on whether it catches on or not.

Splatoon being a multiplayer title will definitely help it have better sales than W101 or Captain Toad.

But the hype for it being the next big Mario Kart/Smash tier shooter is something I don't agree with.
 
I would assume US+Europe/others should be enough combined to offset Japan's big drop for Wii U this quarter

also dat Amiibo $$$
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Dreamcast final total (28 months): ~4.1 million

Wii U current total (26 months): ~3.7 million

Wii U should beat the Dreamcast this year, in six months or so.

And for the curious, Gamecube after 26 months: ~6.7 million

Where are the celebratory GIFs???
 

jblank83

Member
How many units did Wii U sell in December?

They said it was their biggest month for the system.

In its first 6 weeks in the US market, Wii U sold 900k. In its first week, it did 425k. Estimate maybe 650-700k in its first month on the market, which was its highest month.

Then figure in Dec 14 it must have sold more than that.
 
Its nice to see assassins creed missing from both those lists this year.

I hope they learn from this.

Watch Dogs still made it though :/

They said it was their biggest month for the system.

In its first 6 weeks on the market, Wii U sold 900k. In its first week, it did 425k. Estimate maybe 650-700k in its first month on the market, which was its highest month.

Then figure in Dec 14 it must have sold more than that.

From the clues earlier on it's ~560k.
 
Even though it's on the PS4, being a console exclusive is going to hinder sales.

Sure, it's two big games for Sony during MS "offseason" but people continue to overestimate how well these two new IPs will do.

Yeah, I really do wonder....
I remember when people thought that Titanfall would save X1 sales back when it was still $100 more expensive, and it did help A LOT to boost sales, but it still was not enough to shift the PS4 momentum & price advantage that it had.

This is a different situation, but I still wonder just how popular new IPs will be.
I think it could be very review score dependent, but Dark Soul fans will probably buy BB just because FS is developing it, and it is very similar.

There is a lot of analysis to be done, but I think I will wait for Jan. NPD numbers before making a prediction on how much of an impact the exclusives will make.
 

CrisKre

Member
Hm....I dunno.
I don't trust Japan and some parts of Europe lol. I think it'll do well in the US though.

Japan and some parts of Europe added to Wind Wakers total. So it shouldn´t be a problem by that metric alone. Also, IF the game is TOP quality (and not just a great game but an incredible one), and given the franchise, people will buy it. When Zelda is top quality its a system seller.
 

small44

Member
That's so untrue, Infamous:SS sold better than titanfall did for Xbox one. Actually sold close to 2 Million if I'm not mistaken.

Which is pretty damn good for a game that came out in March.

BloodBourne will do much better as there's more hype behind that game, especially after they showed CO-OP.

Dark Souls player's and online junkies are going to eat that shit up mark my words.

The order, I'll be surprised if it selling past 1.5-2 Million.

But Bloodbourne has potential to do 3-4 on it's own.

Comparing a established IP with a new IP not fair
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
You think inclusion in PR is some indicator that it will fare well commercially...?

What else have they even announced for CYH1, out of curiosity?

They are talking about 2015, not just H1, though.

I think it's an indication that it will be promoted quite heavily by Nintendo (together with its big presence along side SSB at most of the major game expos since E3). I said nothing about sales, but some people are acting like this will be some kind of W101, selling 100-150k worldwide.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I would assume US+Europe/others should be enough combined to offset Japan's big drop for Wii U this quarter

also dat Amiibo $$$

That's what I am thinking as well. There's a 300k difference in Japan.

Q3 shipments should be flat, if not slightly-up.

On a side note, can anyone with NPD report comment on Captain Toad?
 
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