fully agree
ever Publisher/developer should be doing a cross gen game just look at thief
people bought thief cause their is nothing to hardly play on ps4/xbone
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NPD Sales Results for February 2014 [Up2: PS4/XB1/Wii U/360 Hardware, BD/Poke/DK]
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fully agree
ever Publisher/developer should be doing a cross gen game just look at thief
people bought thief cause their is nothing to hardly play on ps4/xbone
theprodigy
Member
Yeah, Kagari is the leader of our merry band of Lightning haters, who've spread all the FUD about the series.
Shit I let it slip, I better hide from the ninjas now *vanishes*
She definitely has a bias (that much is obvious), but I don't think she'd lie about the numbers. There's no real reason to lie about something like that.
Which is why i'd be a little concerned about XV.
It has like only 3 days of tracking, not that it's a good result just not something as bad as it seems initially.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
The little fat plumber didn't necessarily help much w/ 3D World, tho, and I'd ssay Wii U sold so much at first b/c it was a new Nintendo console, not so much due to NSMBU.That's a very good point, damn why didn't they release it at the start of a month instead.
The little fat plumber has already showed what kind of selling power he has once before on WiiU with 3D World, I see no reason why MK which is a much broader appealing franchise nowadays cannot do even better.
I didn't actually know that the hardware bump would be split between months like that so of course it makes achieving 300k hardware sales in a single month much harder but it should move 300k consoles over both NPD tracking periods which is much improved over the usual what 50k per month average the console currently has in America.
Of course a lot depends on how well Nintendo advertise MK8, which was why I was asking how the Tropical Freeze advertising was in America.
He's coming... prepare yourselves for when WiiU outsells XBone !
~200,000 is more modest, but best to temper your expectations now instead of later. And given the way Wii U's been selling (and that June's not a holiday month), I would lower even that.
If MK8 fails, SSBU is the last savior.
Don't think they really need to given their attach rates are much higher I believe.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
So it is a conspiracy?
Is that supposed to be a positive for the Final Fantasy franchise? Because I can't imagine any scenario where Square-Enix executives or shareholders are happy with LR's performance and the overall state of the FF franchise.
Apophis2036
Banned
What did you predict WiiU year one Worldwide hardware sales to be out of interest, as high as mine ?
.I don't think we have anything to worry about with FFXV. The cast is entirely different, setting, music, darker story, combat... entirely different experience all together.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I'm pretty sure that's a joke.
Higher actually.What did you predict WiiU year one Worldwide hardware sales to be out of interest, as high as mine ?
My initial expectation was that NSMB alone would drive the system to a userbase around 20 million units by the time PS4/One launched.
bequietdrive
Member
I agree. In September last year on Amazon UK, there were barely any Wii U games breaking the top 100. Windwaker and 3D World started that, but DK has got into the top 20 regularly recently, and Mario Kart 8 was briefly number 1 here and consistently rotates positions in the top 100. I think MK8 is going to give the console a massive boost worldwide. Its crucial that Ninty release Smash soon after to keep the momentum.
If it makes Lightning fans feel better, FFXIII + FFXIII-2 shipped 9.7 million copies so this is a rather minor victory in the war, haha.
Hyperactivity
Banned
WiiU sales actually decent for WiiU
Might make it to Gamecube levels eventually
Oh, and how much profit does Nintendo get for BD? And SE too? Is Nintendo going to be a little lax on the 30% sales royalty give that they're publishing?
Might make it to Gamecube levels eventually
Oh, and how much profit does Nintendo get for BD? And SE too? Is Nintendo going to be a little lax on the 30% sales royalty give that they're publishing?
gioGAF
Member
Get out of here with that garbage. It is a good game and there is a huge audience for it. I would much rather buy Ghosts than a stripped out multiplayer+online only game any day.
Right, that's what I remembered. People are critical of Nintendo's strategy, but their day one releases are one of the few bright spots of the service.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
He's joking.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Austriacus
Member
The whole gaming industry is a big conspiracy lately.
It's a joke making fun out of how cheap a lot of LR looks.
BD was obviously vastly cheaper and is made by a hole in the wall studio.
Not really. I was just asking for numbers to back it up, that's all.
Considering that Lightning Returns was a budget title made by a very small team at Square Enix (<10 people) with no new assets whatsoever, it has done fantastically well. It also demonstrated to Square there is a slavish, brainless audience that will buy anything with Lightning in it so in a way they have hedged new revenue streams with this latest title. Finally, they also showed that review scores do not much matter in driving sales with this core audience.
Huge hit.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Yes, to note while I have been negative as a whole on the 3DS, I do think Nintendo is actually nailing some things with the system and think that if they move on to the 4DS in a very forward looking matter it might not turn out nearly as badly as the current trend for portables would suggest.
Brad Grenz
Member
You're aware one of those games is out, and the other isn't right now, yes? It kinda skews the results.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I bought it digital!
Nintendo is 'trying to change the way games are sold' - whatever that means. But occasionally you see a 3DS game surprise me. Not that I have access to all of that lockbox data, but I've been impressed with the odd Nintendo-published title in the past in terms of download penetration.
I just think that audience in particular hasn't been showing up at retail at all.
Notice how poorly third party games have been on the platform.
Not even 1/2 of XIII-2's first month sales.
BoboBrazil
Member
Yes, especially so in February.
Speaking from Best Buy numbers... All of you that feel Titanfall is pushing the X1 to these incredible heights, I'd really like to you consider the sobering reality that you're completely off the mark.
I think it was famousmortimer that said that there's around a million x1s sold by Titanfall already, as in people who bought the system with the intent to play that game. Feb. numbers definitely feed into that too, with the Beta excitement, and all that. But The game has been out for 2 days now, and our district (Northeast US) has sold less than 40 of the Titanfall bundles, and no store has placed any orders or even requests for any kind of replenishment.
Meanwhile the PS4 is a source of constant requests. Even the mobile stores in malls get calls from customers asking if they carry PS4s. The Salem, NH and Nashua, NH stores haven't even received a shipment of PS4s in a month. A month! But we've received word from Sony that major shipments are due this month in all of our stores.
I fully expect the X1 to do well again this month, but in terms of beating the PS4...? I can't really agree with any of you.
I think it was famousmortimer that said that there's around a million x1s sold by Titanfall already, as in people who bought the system with the intent to play that game. Feb. numbers definitely feed into that too, with the Beta excitement, and all that. But The game has been out for 2 days now, and our district (Northeast US) has sold less than 40 of the Titanfall bundles, and no store has placed any orders or even requests for any kind of replenishment.
Meanwhile the PS4 is a source of constant requests. Even the mobile stores in malls get calls from customers asking if they carry PS4s. The Salem, NH and Nashua, NH stores haven't even received a shipment of PS4s in a month. A month! But we've received word from Sony that major shipments are due this month in all of our stores.
I fully expect the X1 to do well again this month, but in terms of beating the PS4...? I can't really agree with any of you.
Yeah it's kind of shocking overall.
I remember that Elite Beat Agents was seen as the archetypical
Where are the numbers? All we have are the official NPD ones.
reptilescorpio
Member
Word on the grape vine is that SE are cancelling all mobile projects and staffing up to release two AAA Lightning games on next gen consoles per month.
theprodigy
Member
oh
maybe the drop IS real
from what I can tell, XIII-2 did 355k first month, so this is <177k
edit: I see it's <175k
also I swear Nintendo has promoted Fire Emblem and Bravely Default better than any Wii U game
XIII-2 = 350K first month.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
EBA was first party
Apophis2036
Banned
I never actually mentioned NSMBU tbh because as Knack showed, almost anything sells at launch no matter how awful it is.
3D World pushed WiiU hardware sales from ~50k sales per month in 2013 to 220k for November and 470k for December. 3D World had an amazing impact on WiiU hardware sales which was obviously helped by the Holidays but then again most big name titles are.
I don't personally see Smash Bros U having anything like the effect of MK8 on hardware sales unless there is another $50 price cut around the time of it's launch. The 3DS version will also hurt it's sales.
Whoops, my bad.
How do we know this? Really less than 10 people? That sounds nuts.
I think the number for the PS3 version was ~210k, and it didn't even do that good?
Goddamn.
boredandlazy
Member
I know your post is a fine mixture of seriousness and shit-stirring, but not everyone who bought it is brainless. I knew exacty what I was in for when I purchased it, and I wanted to complete the trilogy. I'm up to the final boss now and so far I've been satisfied with my purchase.