Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
At this point, does it really matter? Even 15000-20000 higher would still be a horrible number.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2014 [Up2: PS4/XB1/Wii U/360 Hardware, BD/Poke/DK]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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At this point, does it really matter? Even 15000-20000 higher would still be a horrible number.
OMG at those PShita sales...
It has to be hard at this point even for niche publishers to find success.
You mean like NISA, Arksys and Atlus? Their audience is the one most likely to have a PS Vita anyway.
shinra-bansho
Member
He doesn't, afaik. And states in the post that they're guesses.That is my doubt i don't know if he has NPD numbers or handheld numbers are a estimation.
Obviously; I actually doubt the number is 20K higher, maybe 15K (150K:25K ratio). I'm just pointing out for the purpose of accuracy its a guess and how I think the actual numbers would look.At this point, does it really matter? Even 15000-20000 higher would still be a horrible number.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Would help if Sony would actually show off Borderlands 2 and tell us when the Vita slim is actually gonna release. Then maybe do some marketing for it.
As of now the platform isn't selling, and yet SCEA still is extemely cagey about their next big up and coming game as well as the system redesign.
As of now the platform isn't selling, and yet SCEA still is extemely cagey about their next big up and coming game as well as the system redesign.
I thought I remember reading Lego City sold pretty well on both Wii U and 3DS. Your point stands, though.
I really, really wish more people could play LC: Undercover. Other than the ridiculous loading times, it's a fantastic game.
I don't think it did that badly either, but we are in the land of hyperbole here.
Good morning all. Here are some YOY and Gen over Gen comparisons. The 3DS and PSV numbers are guessed individually, but correct combined. Aren't you glad you're not in the dedicated handheld business?
If the PSV and 3DS #s are just a guess, then you are probably low on the Vita numbers.
In January, Vita sold 17K, and every other console increased from Jan->Feb.
If 3DS/Vita ratio carried from Jan->Feb, then we would be looking at about 150K for 3DS and about 25K for Vita.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
What are peoples opinions on Vita sales if it had Minecraft exclusive instead of 360. I think it might have saved it in the UK and US.
ultratruman
Banned
Not fronting, I dont know why people think MS numbers were good when they couldnt even beat a severely supply consrained PS4. How many units do they have to sell in March to hit that 5 million fiscal target?
Its all good,I don't think it matter either way it still would not be a good number.Sorry for the confusion all. I based my 10K vita number on this post. I thought dolemite had access to the actual data, and was giving us an approximation. I will remove those numbers until we get some better data.
Again, I'm sorry for misleading people.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Not fronting, I dont know why people think MS numbers were good when they couldnt even beat a severely supply consrained PS4. How many units do they have to sell in March to hit that 5 million fiscal target?
Look at the NPD prediction thread. They are way above what people thought they would be. Their numbers are good and so are Sony's.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Assuming the PS4 wins the march NPD I don't think Infamous will be the deciding factor. The system already has a lot of pent up demand without it. However I would love to be wrong. World wide seems like a pretty solid bet though due to the addition of the Japan launch.
It won't be a deciding factor because demand for the PS4 will remain strong regardless but the game will add more reason for potential buyers who may be on the fence waiting for decent software. Looks like Japan sales have slowed down and I think Sony is in a much better position now to shift demand to certain territories. They could have limited the amount for North America due to the Japan launch so I expect more to be available for March.
Not fronting, I dont know why people think MS numbers were good when they couldnt even beat a severely supply consrained PS4. How many units do they have to sell in March to hit that 5 million fiscal target?
Has MS a 5M target? I thought it was Sony only.
Its all good,I don't think it matter either way it still would not be a good number.
It probably isn't that far off.
LTD for Wii u fanboy
Rayman ~ 99k
I'm curious how much it sold on PS4Bone. Certainly not much so Ubisoft will probably not release any numbers.
Not fronting, I dont know why people think MS numbers were good when they couldnt even beat a severely supply consrained PS4. How many units do they have to sell in March to hit that 5 million fiscal target?
They're good because they're up alot from last month. Still, I don't think MS is going to have the same advantage in the US like last Gen.
Someone earlier said the PS4/XB1 versions outsold LOS2 so they're over 55k. I wonder if they already managed to outsell the PS3/360 versions?I'm curious how much it sold on PS4Bone. Certainly not much so Ubisoft will probably not release any numbers.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
I don't see how TF can't push XB1 ahead, it's a big hyped up game that seems to be obviously pushing console sales. The margins have gotten closer in Feb. Infamous has never been a big seller, people have a bit too high expectations from that when it's never been a blockbuster series. And GZ is multi plat. TF is going to push more hardware than SS ever will.
Ps4 doesnt need anything to push it it is still sold out yet beating ms in the US...more stock ps4 sales will increase in the US. Also, infamous is the first AAA game next gen, pre-orders are neck and neck WW with TF, it will only push demand further. If sony ships more the win March.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
Really glad MS did well, hopefully shake Sony out of complacency.
This Gen is far from won.
E3 should shed more light on things.
Yes it is...Sony is too strong in europe and japan, Ms is really just an american console. Its why a year late expensive disaster Ps3 still caught up and passed 360 despite having almost every disadvantage.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
When you look at it that way, it has the legs of a flea. Yikes.
It never had any "legs". The only reason it's as high as it is now is because every retailer like ever had it on sale for $15-20 for a week in December. That's where the spike comes from. Otherwise, it would have been charting at ~3k a month like it has been since.
And this is coming from a guy who loves the game, but let's be serious here.
Good month for video game sales. Glad to see DKTF do well.
it did so well you wont ever get another one
shakin_haitian
Banned
So being able to get a PS4 from one source online means the US is no longer supply constrained? You realize that makes no sense right? Lol
Right now, I can go to two Walmarts, maybe three, and a Target and pick up a PS4.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
I don't see TitanFall pushing XB1 into the number 1 spot in March.
I would say otherwise if PS4 had no software and was still supplied constrained, no longer the case for March.
With SS and GZ launching a week after TF, I expect the same ratios for March that we had in February.
PS4>>>XB1>>>>>>>>>>>>WiiU.
Xbox One should easily win March. Titanfall is a huge system seller. The PS4 is still supply constrained, not sure why you think otherwise...
Infamous has never been a system seller, don't think that will change this time around. GZ...really? That is not exclusive and will definitely not push consoles.
Other notes, I'm shocked that Donkey Kong appears to have been a system seller. Who would have thought? And very happy to see good numbers for Bravely Default. I've yet to pick it up but it's definitely on my radar
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Why no TitanFall sales PR yet? Don't they usually like to brag if the sales are good?
Only launched today in UK I think. I think it should have done 1m WW, so maybe waiting till 360 launch for 2m announcement?
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Bravely Default is only 10th place? Mrgrgr! Unacceptable!
But in all honesty, I'm really glad that Lightning Returns and Bravely Default made the list at all. Both games are really great! I just wish Tales of Symphonia Chronicles made it, even if it released so late in the month.
But in all honesty, I'm really glad that Lightning Returns and Bravely Default made the list at all. Both games are really great! I just wish Tales of Symphonia Chronicles made it, even if it released so late in the month.
As much as I'd like to say that Sony hardware dominating is great, ensuring a hard lead platform and all, competition gets everyone off their butts. One pain point in particular is that Sony's UI is behind MS's. Media capabilities seem to be lacking too, considering what the PS3 could do.
Important thing is that next gen/this gen is selling well on all sides.
You're confusing sales parity with competition.
Right now, I can go to two Walmarts, maybe three, and a Target and pick up a PS4.
If there are retailers who want to sell the ps4, but can't due to inability to get units from Sony, then it's supply constrained. There are, so it is.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
isnt ground zeroes also on xbox one?
MGS games sell way betetr on sony consoles.
Right now, I can go to two Walmarts, maybe three, and a Target and pick up a PS4.
Depends on where the concentration of demand is. Demand in City X <> City Y.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
Xbox One should easily win March. Titanfall is a huge system seller. The PS4 is still supply constrained, not sure why you think otherwise...
Infamous has never been a system seller, don't think that will change this time around. GZ...really? That is not exclusive and will definitely not push consoles.
Other notes, I'm shocked that Donkey Kong appears to have been a system seller. Who would have thought? And very happy to see good numbers for Bravely Default. I've yet to pick it up but it's definitely on my radar
Not this again, ps4 doesnt need a system seller. FEB was the worst month for stock, march US has been getting much steadier stock. Infamous is also the first AAA on Ps4 and sony is marketing it hard, it's pre-orders and on apr WW with titanfall. If sony has supply it can take march easily.
Right now, I can go to two Walmarts, maybe three, and a Target and pick up a PS4.
And?
Why no TitanFall sales PR yet? Don't they usually like to brag if the sales are good?
They are probably waiting for all of Tier One to actually have had the game released, I think it only just launched today in Europe if I'm not mistaken. They'll want to use WW sales numbers. I expect something early next week.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
Right now, I can go to two Walmarts, maybe three, and a Target and pick up a PS4.
Where what area?
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Not this again, ps4 doesnt need a system seller. FEB was the worst month for stock, march US has been getting much steadier stock. Infamous is also the first AAA on Ps4 and sony is marketing it hard, it's pre-orders and on apr WW with titanfall. If sony has supply it can take march easily.
But it won't have the supply to take March, especially with Titanfall out and moving Xbox One consoles off the shelves. March belongs to Xbox One.
Dragon1893
Member
I'm curious about Infamous sales. PS4 owners are starved for content and it's easily the best looking console game yet. I doubt it will do much for the hardware but I guess that also depends on marketing, considering how good it looks they could convince people that they need a PS4 to play that game. Since they are still supply constrained though they might not bother.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
But it won't have the supply to take March, especially with Titanfall out and moving Xbox One consoles off the shelves. March belongs to Xbox One.
?? Many reports is sony has had their biggest shipment since the holidays to the US
If there are retailers who want to sell the ps4, but can't due to inability to get units from Sony, then it's supply constrained. There are, so it is.
The online arms of B&M stores being out of stock is a meaningless fact.
Fact is, I could walk into nearly any Gamestop, Target, Walmart, or Best Buy in my area and pick up a PS4. The "supply constrained" thing doesn't hold water if you're just looking at online sources.
Otherwise, you could say the Xbone Controller is also "supply constrained", as Amazon has been sold out for a few days now. I'm guessing there are hundreds to be found in local B&M stores, however.
I honestly don't know why this topic is so important to people. Sure, there is a decent continued demand for the PS4. But since we don't know how many they're actually shipping here compared to the rest of the world, it's impossible to measure true demand. Xbones clearly have much better demand than we thought as well, given NPDs, it just means Microsoft did a better job with supply.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
?? Many reports is sony has had their biggest shipment since the holidays to the US
Not shocking since we're past the holiday season, but it will still be supply constrained. No doubt about that. Shelves aren't going to be magically flushed with stock in the next couple of weeks, when they've been barren for the past several months.
Dragon1893
Member
That would look pretty bad for Xbox one if they can't even take March NPD, the month when their huge third-party exclusive titanfall comes out and they had it bundled with their hardware at a discount.
Yeah, I don't see it happening.
Nightengale
Member
Only launched today in UK I think. I think it should have done 1m WW, so maybe waiting till 360 launch for 2m announcement?
The only metric we've got of Titanfall sales right now is that it's somewhere in the hundreds of thousands range. During the UK launch of Titanfall, Xbox UK marketing director said 'hundreds of thousands' have been playing since Tuesday.
So prior to UK launch, Titanfall is 1million > x > 100k. ( Obviously it's nowhere close to the lower side of the number )
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
Not shocking since we're past the holiday season, but it will still be supply constrained. No doubt about that. Shelves aren't going to be magically flushed with stock in the next couple of weeks, when they've been barren for the past several months.
Didnt say it will but they will ship enough to win march,
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
the PS4 being supply constraint does not mean that some areas wont have it.
Precisely, I wish people would get this :/
On topic: Could you imagine if XB1 was actually the same price? Man, it would be a whole different tune, even with the weaker specs and fumblings they did.