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NPD Sales Results for February 2014 [Up2: PS4/XB1/Wii U/360 Hardware, BD/Poke/DK]

Dunlop

Member
Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that the PS4 IS still heavily supply constraint and would have sold more.

So? That is Sony's "fault" for not being able to keep up with demand.

MS sold well because they adapting their strategies very quickly
 

Saty

Member
Thief must have done badly, don't see how it can be seen as a success.

360 and PS3 software sales dropping like a stone means most games that a 360&PS3 this year are screwed. The whole motivation of cross-gen games is that next-gen userbase is too small so the current-gen versions are going to sustain the game financially. But if 360&PS3 software is plummeting then that's going to hurt, and so far PS4+XB1 software sales aren't making up for that loss.
 

coldone

Member
What the hell with CoD Ghosts man? People have nothing else to buy?

Hopefully TitanFall dethrones it, and not just for one month!

biggest problem for Titanfall is its graphics. Wish they had used DICE engine than source engine. And the news it is sub-720@30fps on 360 is not going to help.

Gears on 360 was a real head turner for it's time. They need a splashy game for Xbox one too. Splash will bring people inside the door, quality will make them stick with it for a long time. The problem with just banking only on quality is.. lot of people wont even give it a chance.
 

Replicant

Member
LOL IGN:

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Looks like someone corrected Mitch Dyer work. Correction, they only corrected it on the front page or when you click on the article. It still has the original title before you click on it in the Xbox One section but it's no longer on the front page and PS4 section. The same guy that said you can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080p unless you have a 60 inch TV or bigger.

Also:
Microsoft to be 'Direct and Honest' With Fans (IGN)

I'm sorry, but IGN is looking more biased everyday.

LOL @ IGN. How embarrassing. That guy must be feeling like this right now:

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Texhex

Banned
So? That is Sony's "fault" for not being able to keep up with demand.

MS sold well because they adapting their strategies very quickly
"So" what?
I'm not talking about the Xbone here.
Just supporting iori9999's post (quote: supply constraint)

And I wouldn't talk about a "fault" just because the PS4 is breaking sales records left and right.
Demand for the PS4 is monstrous worldwide.
 
About that...PS4 is over 400K sold in Japan as of Wednesday's Media Create numbers.

Sony's over 6 million number is post Japan launch and beginning of March so that 100K number is only from March 3rd to today March 14th in my fuzzy math, granted i should have had it higher but not 400k high
 
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Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
Any update on 3ds/vita divide?

175-180k combined.. ~150k sounds reasonable for 3ds? How would that look compared to last year?
 

TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
yes xbox demad is clearly higher, and we can't say anything about ps4 demand while sony remains supply constrained.

Pretty much, though at this point its only a technical supply constraint I imagine. Same as in Japan after first week.

Anyone who wants a PS4 in US can get one. It was in stock in Amazon for 5/6 days then out for a day or 2 now back in again.
 

Melchiah

Member
Precisely, as things stand the PS4 is not yet the complete package, as of today besides play PS4 games, my PS3 is a more capable machine and sits at the centre of my media hub, can be connected to my external hard drives to access even more media.

The PS3 wasn't that capable at launch either. The same goes for the 360. Sometimes it seems like people either have a short memory, or they weren't there near launch the last time.
 
yes xbox demad is clearly higher, and we can't say anything about ps4 demand while sony remains supply constrained.

This wouldn't make sense seeing as the demand for the PS4 is higher due to the demand out pacing the supply. If MS was higher, they would be on the same situation.. And they aren't.
 

TyrantII

Member
COD stil sitting at #1 just shows how little influence the "gaming media" has over people's purchases. They roasted that game, almost every one of them, yet it's still on top. I love that.

Your definition of roasted is different from mine apparently.

I call it cautiously critical of CODG. Can't get Activision angry after all. You won't like it when you get Activision angry.
 
Pretty much, though at this point its only a technical supply constraint I imagine. Same as in Japan after first week.

Anyone who wants a PS4 in US can get one. It was in stock in Amazon for 5/6 days then out for a day or 2 now back in again.

it was oos more consistently in feb though so march should be a pretty big uptick one would assume, especially since there are also a couple of new games out.
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
Pretty much, though at this point its only a technical supply constraint I imagine. Same as in Japan after first week.

Anyone who wants a PS4 in US can get one. It was in stock in Amazon for 5/6 days then out for a day or 2 now back in again.

Definitely disagree. The demand for a PS4 still outstrips the actual supply in America. Just because you can snatch one if you're lucky on Amazon doesn't really change that.
 

TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
it was oos more consistently in feb though so march should be a pretty big uptick one would assume, especially since there are also a couple of new games out.

I think March it will be the first accurate month for PS4. Hoping both it and XB1 have strong sales. I don't think these cross gen games are working out too well so sooner we move on the better for me.
 

TyrantII

Member
When all is said and done, I expect Xbox One will win the United States by a small margin while failing disastrously everywhere else.

Microsoft will handily take March thanks to Titanfall.

Not going to happen unless they drop kinect and work towards price parity. Unless they do, every time they drop the price, Sony can retaliate with their own price drop and undercut them.

Price is probably the #1 factor for most among many smaller ones.
 

TyrantII

Member
Really glad MS did well, hopefully shake Sony out of complacency.

I really, really don't get this. How is selling every single console you produce off the factory line complacency?

Opening more lines is not cost effective and also isn't something that is done quickly or without issue. Without doing that, what could they have done to increase sales and shake out of complacency?
 

Tomcat

Member
Not going to happen unless they drop kinect and work towards price parity. Unless they do, every time they drop the price, Sony can retaliate with their own price drop and undercut them.

Price is probably the #1 factor for most among many smaller ones.

with the bad economic situation that sony is in I don't think they will do that so easily as many here at gaf believe it.
 

EGM1966

Member
So? That is Sony's "fault" for not being able to keep up with demand.

MS sold well because they adapting their strategies very quickly

If by adapt their strategy you mean practically abandon any attempt to provide supply internationally then I guess MS is responding ok.

Personally I'd prefer limited supply on a broader basis (the route Sony is taking) to this - particularly as a European I see little from MS to make me feel they truly want my business and it's not reassuring the speed with which they seem to drop focus on any territory that's not US/UK when it suits them.
 
Great to see XO selling more. I never want a one sided console Gen.

QFT.

In fact last gen was pretty perfect for us gamers. Some healthy competition, only minor trolling and some awesome games.

TBH I think this gen is going to end up more or less the same. A pity the Wii U seems to be struggling so hard... I would have loved 3 well selling consoles.

Anyway... I am sure the only way is up for the XBox One in the US.
 

Bold One

Member
I really, really don't get this. How is selling every single console you produce off the factory line complacency?

Opening more lines is not cost effective and also isn't something that is done quickly or without issue. Without doing that, what could they have done to increase sales and shake out of complacency?

My post has nothing to do with sales, more to do with the functionality their flagship consumer product.

Not being able to attach external HDD

No DLNA

Mp3

these things can't be so hard to implement surely.

Hell, it couldnt even play Blu rays out of the box
 

TyrantII

Member
with the bad economic situation that sony is in I don't think they will do that so easily as many here at gaf believe it.

And with the shakeup at MS and the shot fired across the XB Brand? We can play that game all day.

We already know both consoles are slightly subsidized, XB1 being more. I don't think MS is any more ready than Sony to start generating larger losses on yet another subsidized console.

Price drops will happen on both a timeline and with hardware revisions. If you do see one go early, the other will have room to maneuver unless it's a very drastic price drop out of sheer panic. And if thats the case, its not good news for the one doing it.
 
So 6m to 3.5-3.6m globally, depending how well Xbox is selling in the other countries. Still close to 2:1 globally, and PS4 is still supply constrained. I predicted 700k PS4 and 400-500k Xbox in March globally.

Sony knows March is a big month, I'm confident they'll do everything they can do put a lot of supply in the US. It wouldn't be a surprise if Xbox took NPDs in March, but still lost globally. Even with the March bump PS4 eventually hitting 2:1 globally seems like a sure thing.
 

Kimawolf

Member
"So" what?
I'm not talking about the Xbone here.
Just supporting iori9999's post (quote: supply constraint)

And I wouldn't talk about a "fault" just because the PS4 is breaking sales records left and right.
Demand for the PS4 is monstrous worldwide.
Lol don't go overboard. The supply constraint talk won't work every month. And yes it broke launch records because hardcore's bought it on hope and faith. But I doubt supply is a problem in Japan. And I'm sure if you want one you will find one these days.
 
Really glad MS did well, hopefully shake Sony out of complacency.

This Gen is far from won.

E3 should shed more light on things.
Such nonsense. Complacent? Why? Because they are playing their hand close to their chest? Why blow your load when you can't even supply enough consoles?
 

prag16

Banned
They both have streaming now with streaming being better on the Xbox One. I think things are pretty much even now in terms of media features outside of Xbox still having apps like Hulu and Netflix behind the paywall (so silly in 2014).
PS3 still destroys PS4 as a media box though. C'mon Sony...
 

Melchiah

Member
In fact last gen was pretty perfect for us gamers. Some healthy competition, only minor trolling and some awesome games.

TBH I think this gen is going to end up more or less the same. A pity the Wii U seems to be struggling so hard... I would have loved 3 well selling consoles.

Anyway... I am sure the only way is up for the XBox One in the US.

The last gen introduced day one DLCs, microtransactions and app paywalls to consoles, so I wouldn't say so. I'd say the PS1/2 gens were pretty perfect for gamers; no nickle & diming, more unique titles instead of sequels, which you could usually play on one platform.
 
My post has nothing to do with sales, more to do with the functionality their flagship consumer product.

Not being able to attach external HDD

No DLNA

Mp3

these things can't be so hard to implement surely.

Hell, it couldnt even play Blu rays out of the box
Yeah I agree with you. After looking at that list Microsoft have gotten extremely complacent.
 
QFT.

In fact last gen was pretty perfect for us gamers. Some healthy competition, only minor trolling and some awesome games.

TBH I think this gen is going to end up more or less the same. A pity the Wii U seems to be struggling so hard... I would have loved 3 well selling consoles.

Anyway... I am sure the only way is up for the XBox One in the US.

That actually doesn't seem to matter. In the ps1 and ps2 gens, we had a breakaway hit in one of the consoles, yet quality games still flowed like water, and we had some of gaming best and most innovative titles.

In Gen 7, it seemed far fewer developers were willing to experiment, and instead consolidated around their major ip's.
 

Tomcat

Member
And with the shakeup at MS and the shot fired across the XB Brand? We can play that game all day.

We already know both consoles are slightly subsidized, XB1 being more. I don't think MS is any more ready than Sony to start generating larger losses on yet another subsidized console.

Price drops will happen on both a timeline and with hardware revisions. If you do see one go early, the other will have room to maneuver unless it's a very drastic price drop out of sheer panic. And if thats the case, its not good news for the one doing it.

yeah rumors against real problems. you can play what ever game you want but the facts are that sony is in a bad shape and to have to make a price cut wont be an easy decision.
I didn't say anything about ms going to do a price cut just that if it will do a thing like that its not such a sure thing that sony will follow. time will tell.
 
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