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[Mysterious]

oh yeah never mind

I was only speaking towards MK 8 > PS4 WD

Mario Kart was obviously going to be first. That's like pointing out GTA is the #1 selling game in the month it launches.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I think people are vastly overstating how good the Wii U number is. Reading this thread you would think that the Wii U has bounced back to relevancy while obituary's are being written for the Xbox One

This is exactly what I was reading throughout this thread.

In what universe does the Xbox One need "Saving" (RE: the chalkboard meme) then in the same page the Wii U and the Xbox One are somehow in the same trench fighting for irrelevancy?

 

[AniHawk]

I still can't believe Nintendo tried to get them back initially with the WiiU. Glad that they learned that was a fools errand.

no i mean it's an omen for the rest of the industry. i think nintendo could have tried getting those people back, but they really misunderstood the audience and why the wii was initially popular. it was about ideas, not franchises, that brought the ds and wii success.

 

[Painraze]

pretty sad showing for xbox one. what else do they have? halo collection, sunset overdrive and another forza? PS4 has christmas by default.

 

[Chobel]

I got

Wii U = 83 degree = 140K
XBO = 117 degree = 197K
PS4 = 160 degree = 270K

 

[GamerJM]

From that, I hesitate to think they're PS and MS console family numbers, they're both above predictions.

What do you mean? Predictions don't mean much. For that to be MS family the 360 numbers would have to be pretty damn low for the Bone to still have sold twice as much.

 

[crinale]

I think chart was families.

 

[mujun]

I find the lack of actual numbers maddening.

Seeing as you are insane...

 

[AniHawk]

260-270k for PS4? wow

expected, actually. the ps4's been doing about 50k a week for the last two months. a big game came out where it was heavily promoted alongside it. the weekly average going up 2k-4k is a good thing, but not out of the norm given the system's recent performance.

 

[GamerJM]

no i mean it's an omen for the rest of the industry. i think nintendo could have tried getting those people back, but they really misunderstood the audience and why the wii was initially popular. it was about ideas, not franchises, that brought the ds and wii success.

I agree, but uh....I'm still confused with how that's an omen for the rest of the industry.

 

[Freeman]

Everything doing much better than I predicted.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

PS4 is almost 50% of that graph. So...that's at least 280k PS4 maybe?

Damn good Sony. If you got more than that, write some of those numbers off for Vita.

I got

Wii U = 83 degree = 140K
XBO = 117 degree = 197K
PS4 = 160 degree = 270K

I think you might be right but the XBO # looks a little too high. That is north of 3x, MS said they did "twice as good as May". They would've said 3x w/ that # I'd think.

From that, I hesitate to think they're PS and MS console family numbers, they're both above predictions.

That might explain it. But if so, what are the splits?

 

[SwiftDeath]

I got

Wii U = 83 degree = 140K
XBO = 117 degree = 197K
PS4 = 160 degree = 270K

You are now my BFF

Spoiler

Hint I got the same exact thing

Shinra will probably post in a page after using ImageJ and put us to shame though

 

[Duxxy3]

I got

Wii U = 83 degree = 140K
XBO = 117 degree = 197K
PS4 = 160 degree = 270K

I'm surprised that Sony would not come out with that number.

 

[veritassin]

I think people are vastly overstating how good the Wii U number is. Reading this thread you would think that the Wii U has bounced back to relevancy while obituary's are being written for the Xbox One

Yea that was the impression I was getting from earlier in the thread as well. Wii U has Smash this year, but can that really compete with so many titles coming to PS4 and Xbox One? No.

 

[Sandfox]

pretty sad showing for xbox one. what else do they have? halo collection, sunset overdrive and another forza? PS4 has christmas by default.

If anything I would say MS has a stronger holiday lineup than Sony.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Yea that was the impression I was getting from earlier in the thread as well. Wii U has Smash this year, but can that really compete with so many titles coming to PS4 and Xbox One? No.

Smash Bros? Hell to the yes it can compete

 

[benny_a]

I'm surprised that Sony would not come out with that number.

Then you haven't been in many NPD threads over the last several years if you think that is surprising.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

So is tomodachi proof that with the proper marketing , weird japanese games will sell good enough ?

 

[SwiftDeath]

I hope we see the splits for XB1 SKUs. Curious how much of those were kinectless

 

[rokkerkory]

Is that 'family #s tho??

 

[javac]

little bit higher than that. about 1.85m, give or take a few thousand.

Heh it's really crazy just how low the numbers are. Its around 10 Million worldwide right? That's the conclusion people got fromm that 100 Million sales thing?

 

[Welfare]

Could we also get PS360 numbers? Feels incomplete without them (unless the chart is families)

 

[Lexxism]

There's a site named and its data is almost exactly what Chobel's calculation. I wonder how legit that site is.

PS4: 269K
XB1: 197K
WiU: 140K

 

[SwiftDeath]

Is that 'family #s tho??

That can't be family otherwise PS family sold like 500k+ in June which is nonsense

 

[Toki767]

If that's "family" numbers, then it'd be hard to tell. I'd maybe even say Xbox family sold less than the Nintendo family.

 

[Yoda]

Is that 'family #s tho??

Wii U portion would be way smaller if it was families.

 

[rokkerkory]

That can't be family otherwise PS family sold like 500k+ in June which is nonsense

True becuz wii u angle is 140k

Really good #s all around

 

[Evenflow]

Yea that was the impression I was getting from earlier in the thread as well. Wii U has Smash this year, but can that really compete with so many titles coming to PS4 and Xbox One? No.

Well the last Smash did 2.7 million it's opening month.... in March.... just think what it will do launching in November, and don't tell me it was casual non gamers buying smash day 1.

 

[tilinelson2]

I wonder if the PlayStation Camera outsold it.

Probably. I assume SCEA is not even trying to sell Vita as a PS4 companion.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Is there really any point to giving us families? We already know the WiiU number. After that it tell us nothing concrete. I assume it's 8th gen systems.

 

[Chobel]

Xbone is doing >192K (based on most calculations here) which is 2.5x more than May NPD, I'm surprised MS just went with "more than double" instead of giving bigger multiplier.

 

[On Demand]

Sony beasting with the sales. They should of said something.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Well the last Smash did 2.7 million it's opening month.... in March.... just think what it will do launching in November, and don't tell me it was casual non gamers buying smash day 1.

Mario Kart is historically a much bigger title than Smash. By a lot. Smash is still but would you expect it to make a bigger splash than Mario Kart? Mario Kart might just be Nintendo's biggest console franchise. Bigger than Mario platformers. Bigger than Zelda and Smash.

 

[SwiftDeath]

There's a site named and its data is almost exactly what Chobel's calculation. I wonder how legit that site is.

PS4: 269K
XB1: 197K
WiU: 140K

Holy crap


Edit: I think this might be legit guys :\

Did they leak all the NPD numbers?

 

[Mysterious]

Wii U portion would be way smaller if it was families.

Are you sure? 360+XONE, PS3+PS4+Vita, WiiU+Wii+3DS

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Okay if XBO really did 197k, MS needs to hire new PR. Why in the hell would you come out to imply 150k when the actual # is closer to 200k? Why not just say "almost 3x as many as May" or "close to 200k"?

These guys, jeez...

 

[random25]

I'm late to the party but wow good numbers all around for MK8 and Tomodachi. Well deserved!

 

[metalslimer]

Well the last Smash did 2.7 million it's opening month.... in March.... just think what it will do launching in November, and don't tell me it was casual non gamers buying smash day 1.

Its not going to be anywhere close no matter what month it launches in.

 

[Road]

There's a site named and its data is almost exactly what Chobel's calculation. I wonder how legit that site is.

PS4: 269K
XB1: 197K
WiU: 140K

Quick, erase that name.

Too late, it's been quoted and linked...

 

[Apt101]

Despite everything the competition has thrown at it, the PS4 continues to grab more top metrics. I wonder if Microsoft's new prerogative of mobile & cloud will affect the Xbox division more than it already has today (TV stuff axed), and how that could influence the quality and amount of exclusives. I realize that the Xbox brand continues to sell well, but sometimes if "well" isn't either the best or extravagant amounts, it's not enough for a corporation in the midst of transformation.

 

[Yoda]

Xbone is doing > 192K which is 2.5x more than May NPD, I'm surprised MS just went with "more than double" instead of giving bigger multiplier.

I think saying "doubled and a half" or "two and a half times" comes off as a bit desperate to me. If they wanted to get that specific they might as well announced the raw % increase but they appear to be going to Sony route and not announcing month-to-month numbers anymore.

 

[Currygan]

So is tomodachi proof that with the proper marketing , weird japanese games will sell good enough ?

weird japanese games that are also accessible to people outside Japan


any Vita numbers?

 

[AniHawk]

I agree, but uh....I'm still confused with how that's an omen for the rest of the industry.

i just think it's a sign of what is to come. consoles are too expensive for pretty much everyone involved anymore, for consumers, for producers, developers, and the first-parties themselves. sony's doubling down and doubling down again on the male 18-34 audience to a great effect, kind of elbowing out microsoft in the process (to an extent, not completely).

these systems, i feel are going to be defined by mmos this gen, partly out of the increase of power, and partly out of a necessity of doubling down on this userbase that spends so much money on online subscriptions, season passes, dlc, and early access betas. it doesn't mean something like the ratchet & clank remake ceases to exist, but it does create a perception of who the platforms are for, especially when all you see on television is just one kind of thing.

we already had one audience leave the console market wholesale because their tastes were no longer being served. i can only see this happening again and more often as variety disappears.

 

[veritassin]

Well the last Smash did 2.7 million it's opening month.... in March.... just think what it will do launching in November, and don't tell me it was casual non gamers buying smash day 1.

It was on a much higher selling system. It's possible it sells that much, but A LOT of that will be to people who already own Wii U's.

 

[PaulKersey]

Well the last Smash did 2.7 million it's opening month.... in March.... just think what it will do launching in November, and don't tell me it was casual non gamers buying smash day 1.

2.7 million with how many consoles out there? I expect it to do relatively well, but the Wii had an insane amount of units out.

EDIT: Beaten :/.

 

[Mysterious]

Quick erase that name.

Is it banned here?

 

[Welfare]

Oh got that leak site. Is this the first time they did this?

 

[Hockeymac18]

edit: Removed site's name

PS4: 269K
XB1: 197K
WiU: 140K

If true, numbers are better for XB1 than most people were predicting based on that PR from yesterday (most people thought it would land ~150-155).

Congrats to PS4, great to see it doing so well. And glad to see all consoles up.

 

[Evenflow]

Mario Kart is historically a much bigger title than Smash. By a lot. Smash is still but would you expect it to make a bigger splash than Mario Kart? Mario Kart might just be Nintendo's biggest console franchise. Bigger than Mario platformers. Bigger than Zelda and Smash.

I 100% agree, but Smash is a frontloaded buy the system now game, kart is evergreen... Kart wii opened at 1.1 milion the very next month to compare.