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Saw this post and decided to compile how racing titles have done in NPD since 2010. It has been pretty tough on the genre.
Considering this then FH3 did pretty well
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Considering this then FH3 did pretty well
Electret
Member
You think digital share was >50%?
Welfare
Member
It did ~150k.
It's the new way of NPD. It counts revenue made and since Minecraft is a $20 game it needs to sell 3x just to match every game in that top 10. Plus Microsoft don't give digital sales while everyone else does (except B.net), surely doesn't help either.
It would probably be in the top 10 if it was by sales not revenue still. Like for FH3 to reach #9 it had to sell 150k, for Minecraft to reach #9 it's need to sell 450K at retail. Honestly that's probably the end of Minecraft charting due to that even if it is one of the best selling games still.
QuantumSquid
Member
GTA V cannot be stopped.
Yep, especially without digital sales in there.
Kurt Angle
Member
Saw this post and decided to compile how racing titles have done in NPD since 2010. It has been pretty tough on the genre.
Gran turismo 6 didnt chart? wtf
They do. To the companies that pay them.
GitarooMan
Member
Because people pay for that information.
PS4 came out that year, Sony sent GT6 to die.
Primethius
Banned
IIRC, it was Sony that requested them to stop giving out data back in the PS3 generation. Or maybe I'm mixing memories up and it's heavily implied that it was Sony?
Edit: GT6 still sold pretty crazy amounts WW for a game that was sent out to die.
That's what they've been doing for years on GAF...hence why these sales threads used to be so poppin'.
SunDimension24
Member
Oh you are very right. I did a survey junior year of college for a class and wanted to determine gamer buying habits. I would say a good 80% of the people I surveyed buy 2-3 games a year. It pretty much involved a sports game(Madden,fifa), a shooter(COD/Battlefield) and some type of game that was recommended by a friend or is very popular(1st party exclusive, Open world game, etc).They play those same games constantly until the new version comes out and they are fine with that.
XCOM on PC is fine. Don't count on an XCOM 3 on consoles though...
CrichtonKicks
Member
Nice to see the yoy increase on PC. Too bad it can't compensate for consoles though.
Yep, over a million sold on PC. They really should have released it on consoles at the same time. Happy that others get to experience the great game but they did it no favors with a late console port with zero publicityi.
Yep, over a million sold on PC. They really should have released it on consoles at the same time. Happy that others get to experience the great game but they did it no favors with a late console port with zero publicityi.
Geez, seeing that list along with the yearly retail game sales down 23% leaves me with a sour stomach.
Weird not seeing Minecraft up there. Good on GTA V (hangintherebaby.jpg).
Sucks for XCOM 2. I thought it would do better since I think there was a lot of complaining that there was not controller support on the PC version.
Is it (PS4> XBO> etc) for the top two?
I think I'm actually going to buy a copy not long from now. I got it for the 360 at launch, and then the PC for its launch. Kinda want an Xbox One physical copy to play through again.
Weird not seeing Minecraft up there. Good on GTA V (hangintherebaby.jpg).
Sucks for XCOM 2. I thought it would do better since I think there was a lot of complaining that there was not controller support on the PC version.
Is it (PS4> XBO> etc) for the top two?
I think I'm actually going to buy a copy not long from now. I got it for the 360 at launch, and then the PC for its launch. Kinda want an Xbox One physical copy to play through again.
First time I've ever rooted against Bioshock. Get fucked, Blind Squirrel.
Trail Guide
Member
How are there still people that haven't played GTA5? Ha ha. What a fucking money train that game is.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Go Forza go.
Fantastic fucking game and deserves success.
Fantastic fucking game and deserves success.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Yeah, I hope no one is going to complain about them skipped consoles for XCOM 3.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I think both of you need to read my post again. Its neither a bad thing nor am I angry about it. I just did a little analysis based on what I've seen among some friends, family members, and coworkers.
Primethius
Banned
Well, I hope they weren't expecting it to do big numbers given the delayed release plus minimal marketing push.
Especially given that XCOM 1 didn't really do big numbers on consoles either. They pretty much sent it out to die.
I agree that XCOM 3 is unlikely to hit consoles, but the publisher's gotta take a lot of the blame in this case.
It should probably be noted that a 6 or 7 in position in Q1, Q2 or Q3 isn't the same as a 6 or 7 in Q4 (for NA at least)...
Well, while that happened, last year had Disney Infinity 3.0 by September.
This year had nothing in September outside some Lego Dimensions figures, the new wave of Lego Dimensions and the new Skylanders count for October.
Mass_Pincup
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At some point you can't fault publishers for trying to play it safe.
25K puts it in Digimon territory and I might be generous.
After the first and now the second game 2K and Firaxis can infer that the console demographic isn't interested in these kind of games and that would be true.
Oh man those digital rumblings just keep on getting better! 😁
Primethius
Banned
For the first one, if the sales are bad, sure, I think you can infer something like that.
But if the sales of the first one are poor, you can't release the second one in even worse conditions (late, minimal marketing) and somehow expect success. It makes perfect sense to me if XCOM 3 doesn't hit consoles due to the sales failure of the first two.
However, they made absolutely no effort to rectify the poor sales from the first game. So, I'm not sure why they would suddenly expect the game to do better.
wonderful103
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The dedicated console market is in decline. PC and mobile are growth markets
Mass_Pincup
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It's because the first game didn't sell that the second one wasn't planned for console.
They didn't tried to make it a big success since Firaxis wasn't even handling the port, they just wanted to respond to the supposed interest displayed by the console demographic which didn't materialise.
Not good.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
0 promotion but they'll say there was no interest.
Primethius
Banned
I'm not sure I buy that. They made it to response to supposed console interest that didn't materialize?
Sounds like they did a poor job in accurately gauging that interest then. And I'm not sure why they would port the game just based on "supposed interest" and not actually try to market it and make it successful. That sounds like a recipe for wasted dollars.
If the game sold 100k on consoles, that still would've been pretty poor. And that's my point. They made absolutely no effort to actually make it a successful title.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Huh? Digital is on the rise isn't it?
Not to mention Play Anywhere is going to naturally have an effect on Microsoft digital vs physical sales. So hitting 9 physical only with a title that most likely has a decent digital share is pretty good.
That Target error would have helped too haha.
so how many friends out of 10 would you say that purchased the game digitally?
Don't know how many slipped through but 17k was cancelled.
mejin
Member
Yep.
zero marketing, delayed from early to late september, full price without any incentive.
They shouldn't ignore console gaming just do a better job next time.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Wow today was an NPD day too. What a crazy fucking day this has been.
CosmicQueso
Member
The difference between this and Halo is Play Anywhere. It's certainly doubtful that it would have pushed digital share to half, but it's reasonable to assume that digital share would be better than the current 30% average month 1 assumption for non Play-Anywhere titles.
Yes but nothing so far from pubs as indicated it being the bigger share of the market or "Most" in this case. Even as a play anywhere titles I don't see think it's reasonable to expect digital to be > physical sales at this stage.