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[Machina]

sued for what?

Facebook, for damaging their brand

 

[GrimDarkDarrel]

Prior to selling his company to facebook, he spoke of technological openness, competition, rising tides raising all ships, VR being a medium not a platform. He gave literally dozens of lectures of the importance of teamwork and cooperation among multiple companies in order to launch a medium, success of the medium before the individual. He stirred many people with this talk, because it echos something within many in the field.

As soon as he sold his company to facebook, everything changed. Oculus slowly became closed off, a walled garden that bought exclusives. They stopped cooperating with other companies. The company that was founded by public goodwill to be an ambassador to VR became the kingpin of the medium, attempting to block competition.

This came to a boil when, within the span of weeks, Luckey would say one thing, then facebook would do the exact opposite with regards to ReVive, a piece of software that let Rift games run on other headsets.

In the end, a lot of what he said to win over people, wound up being bullshit. I don't resent Palmer Luckey for "selling out," I don't even resent him for what happened to Oculus once it was out of his control. I do resent him for immediately pivoting his position to lick boot as soon as he sold his company, though. It's one thing to sell your company and just shut up. It's another thing to sell your company and be the very thing you were speaking out against passionately just 6 months prior.

Yeah that was it. Oculus' business practices after the FB buyout were savagely anti-consumer. I just never paid much attention to what Luckey said prior so wasn't really aware that it was a 180.

After seeing his girlfriend's twitter though, the picture is pretty clear. Even if the article does embellish in some way, Luckey isn't my kind of people.

 

[m_shortpants]

I wonder if Facebook can let him go, or if he has some kind of poison pill or something in the acquisition agreement.

 

[Tain]

Perhaps the first Oculus employee to (indirectly) comment on this: https://twitter.com/DevRelCallum/status/779200835842629632

lol, Tom Forsyth in the replies, too.

Callum is a cool guy. Touch and Rift are great hardware, as someone who has used plenty of both that combination and the Vive. Oculus has a nice API outside of the third party user switch (timewarp is great), and they've published a surprising number of good games already. This is all so disappointing.

 

[Dartastic]

Facebook, for damaging their brand

Ding ding.

I wonder if Facebook can let him go, or if he has some kind of poison pill or something in the acquisition agreement.

Frankly, unless there is some sort of legal agreement in place Facebook has to come after him. Facebook owns oculus now. Palmer's actions are causing irreparable damages to their brand. Like, I know I'll certainly never buy an Oculus product now, and I really wanted one.

That's not even their biggest problem. What about their partnerships, with publishers and manufacturers who will lose expected revenue due to this idiocy? Unless he has some sort of legal agreement in place, he's fucked.

 

[Suzushiiro]

Isn't that the image board full of racist pedophiles that wanted to form a nation with only white people in the heart of Africa?

I mean, it's basically 4chan where you can create and "own" your own board if you don't like any of the existing ones. So... yeah, you get a lot of that shit, and then you also get a lot of people who don't really give a fuck about any of that and just want to masturbate to weird shit.

 

[jack_package_200]

You know whats really funny.

He has a fuckton of money that he could use to influence politics (fuck citizen's united) and the best he comes up with is memes. Is that honestly the best he could come up with?

 

[Krejlooc]

Yeah that was it. Oculus' business practices after the FB buyout were savagely anti-consumer. I just never paid much attention to what Luckey said prior so wasn't really aware that it was a 180.

After seeing his girlfriend's twitter though, the picture is pretty clear. Even if the article does embellish in some way, Luckey isn't my kind of people.

If you go and watch early Palmer Luckey lectures, he basically is arguing against the modern Oculus. Like the practices they ultimately wound up adopting, he'd rail against for 20, 30 minutes. Very passionate, logical talks about how those practices weren't in the best interest in the medium.

It's pretty embarrassing, IMO.

 

[MGrant]

Oh yes, everyone who came from nothing remembers taking sailing lessons, going to college early, and building a six-monitor monster PC during their teenage years.

What is it with these bootstraps dipshits and having no concept of what people who are actually fucking working class actually experience? Kid has never had to live in society and is making a killing selling luxury gadgets and he uses this fortune to fund... more memes? I'm glad I live nowhere near his reality.

 

[gofreak]

Facebook, for damaging their brand

Do employment laws in the US protect around political affiliation? Any move FB would try to make against him would have to carefully tip toe around that so that it was clear action was being taken for identifiable ass-holery rather than his political affiliation.

In any event, I think a much more likely outcome is that they would pension him off if they want him out.

 

[kami_sama]

Sometimes even the most visionary can be almost blind.
I hope Facebook out him or something.

 

[Kilau]

Sony suddenly rolls out a new box.

Can't unsee:
Hillary ---> E.R.

Spoiler

Luckey always seemed like an ass

 

[Basketball]

mmm Freedom Strippers

 

[Theanine3D]

It's astonishing to me that someone would throw away a really promising career over memes. This has to be the dumbest example of career suicide I can remember.

I keep seeing his girlfriend's twitter being mentioned but no one links to it. What's her handle? I'm curious.

 

[Krejlooc]

Oh yes, everyone who came from nothing remembers taking sailing lessons, going to college early, and building a six-monitor monster PC during their teenage years.

What is it with these bootstraps dipshits and having no concept of what people who are actually fucking working class actually experience?

No shit, even before he became a billionaire, he came from at least an upper class white-bread background. He didn't come from nothing, he actually had quite a bit of help and doors were open to him that aren't open to most. Not surprising at all that he's tone deaf.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Is this how VR dies?

 

[derFeef]

This got to have some consequences, right?

 

[Armaros]

It's astonishing to me that someone would throw away a really promising career over memes. This has to be the dumbest example of career suicide I can remember.

I keep seeing his girlfriend's twitter being mentioned but no one links to it. What's her handle? I'm curious.

He is already extremely rich due to the buyout, he doesn't care.

 

[Genryu]

He is already extremely rich due to the buyout, he doesn't care.

If Facebook sues him for damaging their brand, he may not be for long.

 

[jack_package_200]

I keep seeing his girlfriend's twitter being mentioned but no one links to it. What's her handle? I'm curious.

https://twitter.com/nikkimoxxi

 

[TadThuggish]

So far Jeff Gerstmann has unfollowed him, so I'd call that a win.

 

[Machina]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

HuffPost are onto it.

 

[johnsmith]

It's astonishing to me that someone would throw away a really promising career over memes. This has to be the dumbest example of career suicide I can remember.

I keep seeing his girlfriend's twitter being mentioned but no one links to it. What's her handle? I'm curious.

https://twitter.com/nikkimoxxi

A real class act

 

[Mr. Mister]

O.C. millennial. Lol.

 

[Krejlooc]

Is this how VR dies?

No.

Rift, Vive, and PSVR represent platforms (Oculus Store, Steam, and PS Store respectively) but it is important to realize the difference between a platform an a medium. Virtual Reality is the medium, and those platforms provide a way to disseminate VR to the public. Looking at the history of technological progression, it is likely that one or more of those platforms will fail, but their failure is not the same as the failure of VR.

To put it in historic terms - did Atari and Sega's failures in the console realm equate the failure of video games as a whole? Did 3DFX's failure equate to the failure of hardware accelerated 3D graphics? Did Compuserve's failure equate to the failure of the internet?

In short, I've felt the business decisions Oculus has been making have made them a prime target to fail. I think, in the great history of technologies, they'll be seen as a 3DFX, not an Apple.

 

[Catvoca]

So far Jeff Gerstmann has unfollowed him, so I'd call that a win.

Someone on his mxlr called him the vice president of memes and Jeff replied "more like the vice president of racism".

 

[xxracerxx]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

HuffPost are onto it.

And they are calling him a Facebook Titan.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Is this how VR dies?

No, but it certainly damages the brand, as many people who are familiar with Oculus, associate it with Palmer and vice versa.

 

[Tranqueris]

It does indeed. Go look at his likes if you want to find some more gold.

not only follow, but he likes quite a few of his tweets

Feeling like I dodged the biggest bullet by not buying the Oculus. I know his link to the product is tenuous at this point but I dunno how I'd feel knowing that I might have contributed to this guy.

Seriously, what a straight up piece of garbage this guy is.

 

[marc^o^]

Stupid kid.

 

[Anticol]

https://twitter.com/nikkimoxxi

A real class act

It's better if we quote another gaffer from the off topic thread.

dude has been a lowkey shitstain for a while. this is his girlfriend:

https://twitter.com/nikkimoxxi

 

[8-Bit Sunset]

Is this how VR dies?

No, on the contrary.
I'll will push current/potential buyers and developers onto the far more superior Vive!

 

[robinsxe]

WOW this guy is a pisshead, glad I waited on buying a Rift. I certainly wont now.

 

[cw_sasuke]

What a mess.......

Edit:

Holy shit his GF seems like a crazy person as well...just how.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

I wonder how this will effect people's view on Bethesda's lawsuit? It basically trashes Palmer's contributions. I wonder if some people will now what to support that view?

 

[Empty Space]

You know whats really funny.

He has a fuckton of money that he could use to influence politics (fuck citizen's united) and the best he comes up with is memes. Is that honestly the best he could come up with?

Welcome to our dark millennial millionaire future. People like Martin Shkreli and Palmer Luckey are likely just the beginning. The 2020s onward are probably going to be really strange.

 

[Krejlooc]

I wonder how this will effect people's view on Bethesda's lawsuit? It basically trashes Palmer's contributions. I wonder if some people will now what to support that view?

the Zenimax suit is still bullshit. Just because they're spewing their bullshit at an asshole doesn't make it not bullshit.

 

[Azure Dream]

Is this how VR dies?

No, it just makes the Vive/Oculus/PSVR decision a lot easier.

I mean, there's a lot of people behind Oculus, so it feels bad to pin Palmer's crap against the entire company. But they need to distance themselves clearly and quickly from him if they don't want to be associated with it.

 

[LiK]

It's better if we quote another gaffer from the off topic thread.

Wow, she is gross

 

[tuxfool]

I wonder how this will effect people's view on Bethesda's lawsuit? It basically trashes Palmer's contributions. I wonder if some people will now what to support that view?

As shitty as this is, I still don't think Bethesda's claims are all that substantive.

 

[Dartastic]

Oh my god. That woman. D:

 

[forknknife]

Holy shit, this came completely out of nowhere to me. Lucky always sounded a bit of an asshole buy this is something else. Money and success can turn some people into complete nut jobs.

But is he really a white supremacist or just a trump supporter? And is this not him just joking about it with memes?

Not trying to defend him, just want to know if he really thinks like that our if hes 4chan "role playing"? Also, in that forum post he does not say anything about white supremacy?

 

[Toxi]

Reading the article again, Luckey has no concept of self-awareness. Like zero. He has no idea that talking like this makes even Trump supporters cringe.

 

[derFeef]

It's always astonishing seeing how right-wing supporters tweet/say/post all the same shit, no matter the country.

 

[Business]

But are we 100% sure this is real?

 

[Wrestlemania]

As shitty as this is, I still don't think Bethesda's claims are all that substantive.

Yeah. But also - I'm all for anything that might get Luckey away from Oculus. Fuck him.

 

[RedAssedApe]

they sound perfect for each other

 

[GrizzNKev]

It's always astonishing seeing how right-wing supporters tweet/say/post all the same shit, no matter the country.

Hate is universal

 

[Heckler456]

Holy shit, this came completely out of nowhere to me. Lucky always sounded a bit of an asshole buy this is something else. Money and success can turn some people into complete nut jobs.

But is he really a white supremacist or just a trump supporter? And is this not him just joking about it with memes?

Not trying to defend him, just want to know if he really thinks like that our if hes 4chan "role playing"? Also, in that forum post he does not say anything about white supremacy?

Probably the latter, I suppose. But that doesn't change that he's funding a group with ties to the former.

 

[Leonsito]

Well, Hillary is a piece of shit, but you have to be an awful person to support Trump, and wasting money to fund memes is even more retard.

Facebook has to make him resign or fire him, this is going to damage the Oculus brand a lot.