Vox Machina
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All 3 console manufacturers will have a native portable by next gen at the latest. The market for PC handhelds is exploding. People clearly want them.
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PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch later this year at $199.99
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All 3 console manufacturers will have a native portable by next gen at the latest. The market for PC handhelds is exploding. People clearly want them.
JimboJones
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Thank you Neogaf adverts.
PuppetMaster
Member
I do want one. But not at $200 / ¥29,980 JPY
I legitimately would get to play more if I had one.
I will wait a bit for the price to come down.
I legitimately would get to play more if I had one.
I will wait a bit for the price to come down.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
I travel a lot and I always leave all my stuff on standby and I don't turn the router off. I must be doing it wrong.
Either way, remote play to a console at home when I'm away sucks because I have cable internet and they limit upstream bandwidth to 20 Mbps. I wish I had fiber internet here.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
I dont disagree that a true playstation portable would have been 100x better and sold much better. But in the absence of that, this has a place in the market.
Two big things ot may have going for it is locally a lack of latency and actually controllers that don't suck.
JCK75
Member
To be fair we expected it to include basic features, like Blue Tooth.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Let's throw in PSP, PS3 and Vita libraries and I am prepared to pay $500!
Snake29
Banned
Im referring to my own experience with remoteplay over 2 decades. There are still people who think you can only use it at home.
like i said. I played Destiny 8+ years ago on an PSTV at my girls house back then, while my PS4 was at my home….50 km away in standby mode.
poodaddy
Gold Member
Alright brother, I gave it a shot and figured I'd get back to you.
So, I tried it on my PC downstairs as the wife is playing Persona 5 upstairs, so I don't currently have access to the room with the PS5. That being said, hoooolllllyyyyy shit what an improvement. Never let it be said that I won't eat crow when it's served, and goddamn this service kicks ass now.
I put it through the pace with something that would test the input lag, if maybe not the visual fidelity a great deal, but responsiveness is mostly what I'm concerned with when streaming. Throughout the entirety of the tutorial of Tokyo Jungle, (one of my favorites and if you've played it then you know, the tutorial's minutely hefty), and there were three incredibly minor hitches that didn't affect controls at all, and I mean not at all.
I can't put into words how different this is from the experience when I just tried it six months ago. Now, again, I need to test it on the PS5 upstairs too, but so far the PC app is amazing, and I can't believe I haven't been playing it more often. This is a major improvement, no, it's a gargantuan improvement from what it was, and I'm now utterly convinced. I no longer hate the idea of this Playstation Portal at all, and I'm saying this as someone who loved their Vita and still would have preferred a true follow up to that, but PS Plus's streaming capabilities are pretty damn impressive on PC at least.
I'll try a snappy PS5 title to really put it through the paces and see what this service can do. Impressed so far for sure.
Muddy
Member
What logic.
Adding console cost to an optional accessories total cost.
Like saying you need a Switch to play Nintendo Labo the total cost is over 350 dollars for cardboard.
PSYGN
Member
I wouldn't be happy if he was wrong. I hope this shit fails so bad.
TLZ
Banned
Blogposts:
PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld - IGN
PlayStation Project Q is now called PlayStation Portal, a $200 handheld device that lets you stream your PS5 games via Remote Play. We went hands-on to see how it works.www.ign.com
PlayStation Portal Hands-On: I Played Sony's New PS5 Handheld
Coming later this year for $200, the new remote player is a worthy extension of the PlayStation 5 console.www.cnet.com
PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld - The Global Herald
IGN published this video item, entitled "PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld" - below is their description.theglobalherald.com
Videos
Key Notes from Previews:
- Portal has a 3.5mm headphone jack as well as a small set of speakers that are passable but nothing special.There is no Bluetooth available, so you won’t be able to connect to wireless headphones that way – not even PlayStation’s own Pulse 3D headset.
- Portal doesn’t run anything locally, not even basic apps. So if your Wi-Fi goes down or if someone else wants to use your PS5, it’s not going to work
- The device has a 60Hz, 8-inch LCD display. PlayStation says this size is the sweet spot for long gaming sessions, keeps text legible and won't leave the player feeling like they're downgrading.
- The Portal is light, probably somewhere between a Switch and a Steam Deck.
- Games like Astro's Playroom and Returnal plays like playing directly on the PS5 console.
- No lag experienced when playing games (by previewers)
- No definitive battery life was given but the company is targeting something similar to the DualSense controller's,
Cool accessory.
Will wait for more hands-on reviews on lag. That will determine if I buy or not as I'm only buying it for the bedroom. If it works flawlessly it's a great option for me instead of buying another PS5 for the bedroom.
MrMephistoX
Gold Member
Blogposts:
PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld - IGN
PlayStation Project Q is now called PlayStation Portal, a $200 handheld device that lets you stream your PS5 games via Remote Play. We went hands-on to see how it works.PlayStation Portal Hands-On: I Played Sony's New PS5 Handheld
Coming later this year for $200, the new remote player is a worthy extension of the PlayStation 5 console.PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld - The Global Herald
IGN published this video item, entitled "PlayStation Portal: Hands On With Sony's New Remote Play Handheld" - below is their description.theglobalherald.com
Videos
Key Notes from Previews:
- Portal has a 3.5mm headphone jack as well as a small set of speakers that are passable but nothing special.There is no Bluetooth available, so you won’t be able to connect to wireless headphones that way – not even PlayStation’s own Pulse 3D headset.
- Portal doesn’t run anything locally, not even basic apps. So if your Wi-Fi goes down or if someone else wants to use your PS5, it’s not going to work
- The device has a 60Hz, 8-inch LCD display. PlayStation says this size is the sweet spot for long gaming sessions, keeps text legible and won't leave the player feeling like they're downgrading.
- The Portal is light, probably somewhere between a Switch and a Steam Deck.
- Games like Astro's Playroom and Returnal plays like playing directly on the PS5 console.
- No lag experienced when playing games (by previewers)
- No definitive battery life was given but the company is targeting something similar to the DualSense controller's,
If it can still maintain a stable connection when other devices are playing R roblox or binging @hulu or @netflix then it meets my needs otherwise I’ll return it.
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TLZ
Banned
Mate what is this? You buy the controller for the console, not the other way around. This is nothing but a controller.
nordique
Member
Scramble for excuses?? Have you read this thread - not a lot of excuses or positive feedback from what I can gather
Raonak
Banned
My PS5 is in the living room, and I've been using remote play to play my PS5 on my tablet when in bed. It's a surprisingly good experience for single player games. Was using it to clear up hunts in FFXVI.
Replacing the tablet + wire + controller with a single device sounds like a good upgrade for me.
I'm tempted but my wallet says wait for price drop.
Replacing the tablet + wire + controller with a single device sounds like a good upgrade for me.
I'm tempted but my wallet says wait for price drop.
Pasta la Vista
Member
What a piece of shit. Did they really learn nothing from the mistake that Nintendo faced with the Wii U?
Most casual consumers are just going to assume it's a standalone handheld.
Most casual consumers are just going to assume it's a standalone handheld.
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LectureMaster
Gold Member
Mildly interested, but need to see more. Is the stick module replaceable? Better to save that 200 bucks to day one PS5 pro.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Why can’t they throw a low grade GPU for PS3 and the entire PSN for that gen? You’d have 3 generations of console games on there and maybe even a 4th? A part of me feels like the new PS doesn’t care about the past PS. If they do, they want to be very selected about what gets brought over or what’s BC. Even if you look at what’s brought over, 50% of it feels like they get it. It’s neat and I’d love to use it. I like being in front of my TV since that was quite a lot of money. I just wonder how many Sony accounts there are with PS3/Vita/PSP games. We are in a digital age. There seems to be a lot of shovelware on PSN these days.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
It is?! Or is this just on NeoGAF?
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
You can't be serious, they needed to name it something short yea but project Q says nothing about the device. Playstation handheld, Playstation wireless, Playstation untethered. Something like that would have been much better.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Something like that
Playstation Portal itself is decent, the other words after that can be chopped.
FalsettoVibe
Member
I'll buy if it has a direct connection to PS5.
Muddy
Member
What other words? Those are describing what it is.
It’s called the PlayStation Portal.
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K2D
Banned
Doesn't looks like it.. The Dualsense *Edge sticks are clearly modular, while these do not seem to detach in any similar way.
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Strange product, imo. Seems like quite a hard sell to me. Must surely be a gamble for Sony, I almost wonder if this is an experiment that ended up working better than they expected and they've decided to do a limited run and see if people respond to it.
I wouldn't be surprised if this sells out.
I wouldn't be surprised if this sells out.
drotahorror
Member
So this can’t cloud stream PS+ games so it sure as hell doesn’t support streaming utilities like moonlight and you won’t be able to play any gamepass cloud games with out of the box defaults.
Meaning it’s completely closed and only features some sort of proprietary remote play app.
So the only way this would be useful for I suspect a lot of people, myself included, is if the thing can be jailbroken.
I use my steam deck at the moment almost exclusively for home streaming via moonlight/sunshine. It works amazingly well. So this product does interest me as it’s a little bigger screen, higher res and much more comfortable controller.
No side loading apps is going to be the nail in the coffin though. I’m 100% sure it’ll be modded/jailbroken though.
Meaning it’s completely closed and only features some sort of proprietary remote play app.
So the only way this would be useful for I suspect a lot of people, myself included, is if the thing can be jailbroken.
I use my steam deck at the moment almost exclusively for home streaming via moonlight/sunshine. It works amazingly well. So this product does interest me as it’s a little bigger screen, higher res and much more comfortable controller.
No side loading apps is going to be the nail in the coffin though. I’m 100% sure it’ll be modded/jailbroken though.
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FrankWza
Gold Member
Yeah the attach rate statements are dumb when you're talking in terms of 100million console sales. I'm sure they would be pretty happy to sell 5 million of these by the end of the generation.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
$199? No BT? No PS Now? Who is this for? People that have to hide their gaming from their spouse?
Skelterz
Member
£200 to stream a game from one device to another.. So Essentially a £200 invisible HDMI cable. Your deluded if you think it’s a steal your actually getting robbed.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Hardware wise, what's stopping Sony from adding cloud capabilities with this thing in the future?
RCU005
Member
They have to know this won't sell well at all. They didn't even put Bluetooth. 99.99% of people who use a device like this, use it wearing headphones.
People saying it would be good for times when the wife or kids are sleeping, but then they can't wear headphones? (Does it even come with a 3.5 headphone jack?)
The reason this thing is $200 is because they dared to sell the Dualsense Edge at $200, and of course they won't sell this cheaper. I wonder if the DS Edge has been selling well (I would imagine is not) because it's too expensive.
DS should cost $120 at most and this thing should cost $149 at most with the lack of bluetooth, OLED and apparently even an OS.
Will it sell worse than the PlayStation Mini? Place your bets!
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bender
What time is it?
PlayStation Portal remote player
PlayStation Portal remote player brings the PS5 experience to the palm of your hand. It includes the key features of the DualSense wireless controller, including adaptive triggers and haptic feedback*. The vibrant 8-inch LCD screen is capable of 1080p resolution at 60fps, providing a high definition visual experience that’s expected from the high quality games created by world-class developers.PlayStation Portal is the perfect device for gamers in households where they might need to share their living room TV or simply want to play PS5 games in another room of the house. PlayStation Portal will connect remotely to your PS5 over Wi-Fi**, so you’ll be able to swiftly jump from playing on your PS5 to your PlayStation Portal. PlayStation Portal can play supported games that are installed on your PS5 console and use the Dualsense controller. It also includes a 3.5mm audio jack for wired audio. PS VR2 games, which require the headset, and games that are streamed through PlayStation Plus Premium’s cloud streaming, are not supported.*
FrankWza
Gold Member
Which means you can probably just get a 3.5BT transmitter adapter and connect Bluetooth headphones to it. That's an easy and cheap workaround. I believe that was necessary for switch early on. It will probably have the same latency but it's a $15 solution
Without cloud support and Bluetooth this device is useless. Might as well get the Logitech cloud (or whatever they call it) for my portable gaming needs. Who thought this was even a remotely good idea? Not supporting the original official PS5 headphones. Anti consumer PlayStation is back with a passion.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Yah I switch off the plug to my non-essential electric stuffs that I am not using when I go oversea. I don’t want any risk of some blackout occurring which kills my electronic gadgets or tv when I am away. Of course not including stuffs like router or NAS since the rest of my family uses them, but they don’t play consoles or use the tv in my room
GeeseGoose
Member
Seems like a missed opportunity to not allow streaming, but I have compelling use cases that this would solve.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Seems like a device trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Pass.
fersnake
Member
future? has to be at launch, if not this thing is dead on arrival tbh.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Pretty sure that’s not the case. PS Link is only for connecting from Pulse Elite and Pulse Explore to PS5/PC/Max/PS Portal.
PlayStation’s first Remote Play dedicated device, PlayStation Portal remote player, to launch starting Nov 15 at $199.99
Pulse Explore wireless earbuds and new Pulse Elite wireless headset revealed; features lossless, low latency audio using new PlayStation Link technology.
blog.playstation.com
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
How is this different from using a Backbone on your smart phone?
That is a very small target audience. I don't think it will pull some sizable numbers until or unless people find some other use out of it.
Hip Hop
Member
Didn't the Wii U have better streaming tech than Sony ever did?
It was flawless as it was really locally steaming.
I have had different modems/routes and fast internet and Sony's remote play always sucked for me so if Sony is still using the same old Remote Play tech I'm not buying.
Investor9872
Member
The DualSense Edge is also $199, and has single digit % attachment rate. I would say that product has been a success for Sony.
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