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[ksdixon]

Yeah, Xbox and Playstation consoles don't support bluetooth for audio devices at all for some reason. Nintendo Switch added the support like a year ago.

Nintendo has Bluetooth support? That's fucking embarrassing for PS and XB. I literally said wow.

 

[balls of snow]

Will get the earbuds

 

[Giallo Corsa]

So it's a handheld only for your home. Such wasted potential. This makes the Psp Go a much better proposition.

You can play outside your home too via hot-spot

 

[Robb]

Never thought Sony would be the one to make WiiU 2.0

 

[//DEVIL//]

charging me 200$ for a screen that is probably FHD ? that has a wireless chip, left offer broken plastic in half ps5 controller with a minimal OS on it.... no shame in this company.

another DOA device just like their VR2.. they keep making shit hardware people will no longer even trust the console itself. congrats idiots.

Hell even at 100$ it needs lots of thinking ffs.

 

[dotnotbot]

Nintendo has Bluetooth support? That's fucking embarrassing for PS and XB. I literally said wow.

They do but from what I'm reading just now, it only has SBC codec support so quality is low and there is a lot of complaints about audio delay (varies between headphones).

Maybe they are worried about controllers working on the same frequency and eating the bandwidth.

 

[FrankWza]

Nintendo has Bluetooth support? That's fucking embarrassing for PS and XB. I literally said wow.

Bluetooth audio for gaming is usually pretty terrible and almost always needs a dongle to provide anywhere near lossless and lag free audio. There's nothing embarrassing about it

 

[fart town usa]

Who is this device supposed to be for?

. Older gamers like myself who get nagged guilt tripped by their wife for gaming in the basement or kids who don't have their own TV.

Steamdeck is a infinitely better option but I'm looking for convenience and if this thing works well I'll be getting one.

 

[StereoVsn]

Yes, you need a PS5 but you don’t need to be on the same network as the PlayStation 5. You can travel to the other side of the world and use it there. It will not scan your local network and pair with the first PlayStation it finds lol. Will most likely work like remote play does now, device gets paired to the system via PlayStation account.

That's not what IGN was implying.

 

[Bartski]

home streaming only handheld is such a weird idea, their next move has to be v 2.0 with cloud streaming on it via "trinty". It's gonna be huge, just not at launch.

 

[MisterXDTV]

I could see myself playing Returnal from my bed or something, but this is streaming only.. I understand in order to play PS5 games w/o streaming we're talking a 500 bucks device, but why doesn't it use Cloud? And no BT renders my Pulse useless.

There is too many things not right with this device. Should tank and pick up for half the price. Another PS Vita TV incoming.

So you don't like remote play but want Cloud that it's much worse?

I'm confused

 

[FunkMiller]

The idea that anyone will be using this while travelling?

Yeah… I don’t fucking think so. I travel a lot, and don’t leave my entire set up at home running while I’m away. I doubt many other people do either.

This shit is for a different room in the same house. That’s it.

 

[Mahavastu]

my guess is latency to the portal + cloud latency for games is too much

Should the Portal not be able to contact the cloud service directly to avoid the PS5->Portal latency?

 

[MAtgS]

Chances are this won't have much on-board storage or a slot for a micro SD so it ain't even all that good for hacking & putting android on.

 

[Certinty]

No bluetooth? What the fuck.

 

[Hudo]

Lmao

That should be the official product description imho.

 

[ShirAhava]

A $200 brick without WI-FI, No Bluetooth(WTF), LCD screen....the price.....this is beyond niche....

"How many consoles are they expected to sell? after PlayStation Portal sends their stock directly to hell" - Eminem

 

[IntentionalPun]

Been saying it..

Sony isn't jumping in on the streaming bandwagon of "play our games w/o a console."

Maybe in the future, but for now they want you buying a PS5 to play PS5 games.

 

[Fahdis]

DOA pretty much.

 

[nikos]

I had no desire for this when it was revealed.

I pretty much never use my PS5.

I really don't like streaming games.

I still want it for some reason.

Maybe it'll bridge the gap between "should I get this on PC or Switch," for those few games I think I want on handheld for whatever reason but run like ass on Switch. Some people may say Steam Deck is the solution but that thing is a monstrosity. I think streaming, even locally, is still a deal breaker for me though.

 

[X-Wing]

That's not what IGN was implying.

Sony’s $200 handheld “Portal” can stream games from your PS5 and, uh, that’s it

Previously known as “PlayStation Q,” the handheld is far from a new PlayStation Vita.

arstechnica.com

Instead, every game has to be running on a PS5 you own, ideally on the same local network (fully remote streaming far from your PS5 is also available if you're willing to tolerate Internet-level latency).

Also, from IGN. themselves:

 

[Shifty1897]

The idea that anyone will be using this while travelling?

Yeah… I don’t fucking think so. I travel a lot, and don’t leave my entire set up at home running while I’m away. I doubt many other people do either.

This shit is for a different room in the same house. That’s it.

I agree it's mostly for using in the same house, but you don't need everything running to remote play to your PS5. If your PS5 is in rest mode at home and your settings are set to allow it, you can remote play from anywhere on your phone and your PS5 will pop on and connect.

 

[X-Wing]

A $200 brick without WI-FI, No Bluetooth(WTF), LCD screen....the price.....this is beyond niche....

"How many consoles are they expected to sell? after PlayStation Portal sends their stock directly to hell" - Eminem

Do you people even do minimum reading before posting shit?

 

[Madjaba]

The PS Portal is NOT for non-PS5 gamers. It's literally ONLY for people that already have a PS5. How can some of yall not understand this?

So don't compare its price to a stand alone console maybe ?

If you're a PS5 gamer then you already paid 450 to 500€/$ before paying for the Portal.

So the total cost is for both devices not only one.

Simple math and logic.

 

[THE DUCK]

That converts to what should be $269 Canadian, but we all know it’s going to be $299 here.

I'm going with $249.

Seems odd there is no Bluetooth.

 

[X-Wing]

So, PlayStation Link is a bit more than just for the headsets. It's also how the Portal connects to the PlayStation 5.

 

[akaFullmetal]

People were hinting at 300 price, so 200 is definitely more in my buy territory. I'll have to see what it can do with reviews later.

 

[SkylineRKR]

So you don't like remote play but want Cloud that it's much worse?

I'm confused

You shouldn't be confused.

I said I can see myself playing Return from my bed, but this is streaming only. Which doesn't say I don't like it, but its less ideal than actual hardware. Which I understand because of price point.

Secondly I just ask why it doesn't feature cloud gaming. Remote play means you need to have the game installed on your PS5. With cloud you could try out some games. Its just strange that they are offering cloud gaming but not on this device. It means it would lock me out from my Premium content like PS3 classics.

 

[MisterXDTV]

So, PlayStation Link is a bit more than just for the headsets. It's also how the Portal connects to the PlayStation 5.

Yeah, I remember my PS Vita had a "Direct Mode" to connect with my PS4

This is gonna be much better, obviously, since 10 years have passed...

I expect video quality better than any other "local streaming" system, let alone cloud/internet streaming

 

[THE DUCK]

Didn't realize it could at least connect wirelessly to PlayStation headphones and that you can do remote play on the road. So it could still be useful on a trip.

This will sell much better than psvr2 due to broader appeal and obviously, price.

 

[Banjo64]

No bluetooth? What the fuck.

You could use those 3 words to sum up the entire product.

 

[Sleepwalker]

The idea that anyone will be using this while travelling?

Yeah… I don’t fucking think so. I travel a lot, and don’t leave my entire set up at home running while I’m away. I doubt many other people do either.

This shit is for a different room in the same house. That’s it.

It's such a disingenous argument: "you can use it on the other side of the world!"

Do you... leave your PS5 on at home when away on vacation? lol. I thought it was standard practice to unplug all the electronics before leaving your home for an extended period of time. Jesus.

 

[ShirAhava]

Do you people even do minimum reading before posting shit?

huh? what can you do with this device without internet? its a brick if you don't have a connection

 

[SkylineRKR]

It's such a disingenous argument: "you can use it on the other side of the world!"

Do you... leave your PS5 on at home when away on vacation? lol. I thought it was standard practice to unplug all the electronics before leaving your home for an extended period of time. Jesus.

Yes true. I am away from home a few months a year and I always unplug all. Which... is why cloud gaming could be kind of useful on this frankenstein?

 

[MisterXDTV]

huh? what can you do with this device without internet? its a brick if you don't have a connection

It needs a PS5, not internet

If you are in your house it will directly connect to the PS5 without even using Wi-Fi

 

[StereoVsn]

huh? what can you do with this device without internet? its a brick if you don't have a connection

It's worse actually as it's a brick without Internet AND a live PS5. If the device could at least stream PS+ games it would make a lot more sense.
Well, and Bluetooth, because not having that is just dumb.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

I wonder how many people will buy this thinking it's like a Switch for Playstation, or a new portable like thr PSP. Going to be a lot of returns after Christmas.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

That's not what IGN was implying.

Wait so this thing can ONLY Remote Play with a single PS5 or PS5s in your immediate home network? You can't even Remote Play it with other PS5s unless (I'm guessing) you de-pair a license from your home PS5 network with a roaming PS5 network?

Bro, Jesus wept. It's like having a pair of shoes you can only wear for a specific outfit in your house. Even if you found that same outfit at another store in some other country, and rented it out, you'd be unable to wear those pair of shoes with it for...whatever reason.

Just kinda ridiculous restriction IMO.

 

[Jack Videogames]

Thank you, I'll keep my Steam Deck with Chiaki which works smooth as fuck

 

[kikonawa]

day one .great to play in bed

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Lmao

Options are a wonderful thing.
Jokes on you

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Didn't realize it could at least connect wirelessly to PlayStation headphones and that you can do remote play on the road. So it could still be useful on a trip.

This will sell much better than psvr2 due to broader appeal and obviously, price.

Since when did Remote Play, which is even more niche than cloud gaming, suddenly have broader appeal? This is news to me.

You wanna know what has real broad appeal? A portable PlayStation that can natively play PS1, PS2, and PS4 games on the go AND Remote Play & cloud stream PS5 games.

That's actual broad appeal. Not whatever PlayStation Portable is.

 

[Marvel14]

Wow how avant garde are Nintendo that Sony is essentially copying their idea a decade later? And an idea that bombed hard too!

"You wanna know what has real broad appeal? A portable PlayStation that can natively play PS1, PS2, and PS4 games on the go AND Remote Play & cloud stream PS5 games."

You may well be describing the Nintendo Super Switch (minus the Sony games and the PS5 horsepower )

 

[kingwingin]

If it’s as lag free as cnet claims I’m in!

 

[Imtjnotu]

Should the Portal not be able to contact the cloud service directly to avoid the PS5->Portal latency?

No because it needs a PS5 to run. We're going to wait till we see this thing away from a PS5 over a network to see real latency

 

[Edgelord79]

So approx $300 CAD (after taxes) for a small screen with a controller attached? That’s ridiculous with all the devices that support remote play already. Needs to offer more for that price point.

 

[Portugeezer]

Looks decent, but I won't be interested any time soon. Maybe a used system in a few years.

Well I’ve just completed Far Cry via PS5 Remote Play on my PC and it was one of the most horrendous experiences I’ve ever had. Laggy controls (30fps game though) and tons of macroblocking. Worse than PS Now streaming! And that was with both devices wired to the LAN.

Far Cry got a 60fps patch for PS5.

 

[GHG]

Absolute rip-off.

Hope nobody buys this trash.

 

[Harlock]

You can use PS Portal in another house, over internet, or only works at same wi-fi network?

 

[Aenima]

It's such a disingenous argument: "you can use it on the other side of the world!"

Do you... leave your PS5 on at home when away on vacation? lol. I thought it was standard practice to unplug all the electronics before leaving your home for an extended period of time. Jesus.

You dont need to leave ur Playstation on. The device wakes up the console when you turn the PS Portal on. Same way you can turn on the console by pressing the PS button on a DS controller.