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GodofWhimsy

Member
IDK I don't play that style of games, I'm more of linear experiences with freedom to do many optional stuff, like Mass Effects games.

Rune Factory is the only game series I play in that vein. It has dungeon raiding and monster taming outside of the usual life-sim stuff, so it has enough versatility and gameplay options to hold my attention.
 
-The Xbox One has a better library of first party exclusive games than the PS4
-Naughty Dog hasn't made a fun to play game since the PS2 (Jak 3)
-Halo 2 is the best Halo multiplayer, with Halo 5 as a close second
-Call of Duty Black Ops 3 is a bad game, the Zombies mode (which is second worst in my opinion) is the only saving grace to owning the game
-Nintendo has no idea what their customers want and is not good at keeping their older games accessible
-Atlus is actually smart for keeping their games elusive as exclusives to various platforms, as even though it is not pro-consumer at all, it allows them more leverage and the ability to negotiate money to make/keep games exclusive to a given platform (while not confirmed, it is rumored that Sony paid for exclusivity for P5R and maybe even regular P5, and Nintendo for SMTV) thus guaranteeing all their games are successful.
-Bethesda's Creation engine is one of the best engines used by any developer and they absolutely should stick with it for future projects
-Outside of poor pacing and a few poorly baked ideas, TLOU2's story is actually really good even if I feel it needed a more diverse group of writers
 

PresetError

Neophyte
- If I was the CEO of a big publisher or the head of a developer studio I wouldn't hire women just to limit the potential of drama and public accusations affecting the business or my brand's reputation.

- At some point big publishers have to consider relocating their development studios to countries with a less problematic working and cultural environment than the USA and Canada. I would even avoid western Europe and move my teams to central/eastern Europe and east/south Asia, where plenty of equally talented and less entitled workers can be found. It would reduce the cost of developing games too.

- This new trend of punishing cheating men in the videogame industry is no different from good old slut shaming.

- I find JRPG's infuriating. They are extremely repetitive and slow, with terrible redundant dialogue and they treat you like a moron as a player. Games like Persona 5 I want to like but I can't endure more than 4 or 5 hours. The same happens to me with non-RPG japanese games like the Yakuza series.
 

PresetError

Neophyte
Just to make sure. Cheating should be ok for men as they have the right to do so? Are women also allowed to sleep with whomever they want while in a relationship?

Whoever a man or a women sleeps with should only concern that man or woman and the people he or she sleeps with. I don't believe in punishing adultery beyond risking your monogamic relationship if you're caught. I've been cheated, i've cheated. It's not pretty, but it's old as the world itself and not that different from any other BS we have to deal with in human relationships.
 

Woggleman

Member
I don't care about ludonarrative dissonance or uncanny valley or any more of those terms. Give me enjoyable gameplay and an engaging story and I am in. Some people think too hard about stuff.

GTA V changed Rockstar and not for the better.

Bloodborne is meh.

Horizon Zero Dawn is a much better game than BOTW.
 

Carna

Banned
I think gaming will change for the worst starting next-gen,

I feel that people who engage in detracting the Sonic franchise with incredibly negative discussion, houses the worst kind of people in gaming culture, same can be said about console war crap

2D platformers are incredibly redundant, and any more of them don't need to be made.

Sara from Breath of Fire 1, is a incredibly underrated "older sister" character, and I wish she had more art on pixiv :/

Sekiro is way easier than any dark souls game,

I fear that Ghost of Tsushima might have negative complacations that tlou 2 has

Sega of America fans who defend them during the rivalry between them and Sega of Japan confuse me, and probably care more about the Sega vs Nintendo console war, instead of actual games

Astro Boy PS2, was better than the GBA game

Virtua Quest was a underrated character action game for kids or beginners

Mario Odyssey is legit one of the worst games I ever played on the switch or comparsion to other games,

Nights: Journey into Dreams is underrated, and improves on things that suffered in the original game (like field/carema view)

Phantasy Star Universe is a proper evolution in comparison to Phantasy Star Online 2, PSO2 is just a unstable grindfest

Sonic 06 actually has some great level design and is playable in parts of the game, but it's hampered by other weird design decisions

Sonic CD is the best 2D Sonic game, and it's more of a "lost" Saturn sonic game than Mania could ever hope to be
 

Miles708

Member
Sonic CD is the best 2D Sonic game, and it's more of a "lost" Saturn sonic game than Mania could ever hope to be

Just to continue with the controversial opinions: even though I consider Sonic Mania way overrated (especially by people who probably don't remember how good the level design and general rhythm was in the Genesis/Mega Drive games), I still find very hard to love Sonic CD because of its confusing level design, acid colours and the overabundance of nonsensical dead-ends and obstacle placement.

I kind of like Sonic CD as some kind of "what-if" chapter, but Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles are timeless masterpieces way above it.
Sonic Mania is a good game, anyway.
 
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It's the controller right?
Well, yes, they have the best controller. But I like racing games a lot and both Forza 4 and Horizon got me into the Forza bandwagon. I like Halo for it's design, characters, enemies, lore... RPGs (also got a PS3 for jrpgs), metroidvanias and fighting games. Xbox has the best in these so... yeah!
 

Miles708

Member
Pixel-art is, for the most part, terrible. Good games with this graphics style are good despite their style, and usually they try to mimic a "classic style" that actully never existed, because 2D games in the 8-bit, 16-bit and 32-bit era have never been that ugly.
 

Belmonte

Member
Mario Galaxy 2 is much superior than Mario Galaxy 1.

First Galaxy is beautiful, have a lot of charisma and good ideas but the challenge is so trivial that sucks a lot of the fun. Only the last two worlds made me engaged. It is the worst 3D Mario despite the huge potential.

Second Galaxy fix everything I didn't like about the first one and uses the ideas to make one of the most fun games I ever played. It is one of my favorite Marios, if not my favorite Mario (the series have a lot of high points, it is hard to pinpoint THE best Mario).
 

cormack12

Gold Member
Gamers give passes to games while raking out games for the same thing. The whole falling simulator with Tomb Raider - Did they play Uncharted 3 or 4.

The more season, lootboxes and unlockables in multiplayer, the less likely I'm prone to try it out. It's like you have to pick 1/2 services now and choose to stick with it.

The Diablo III hate is mainly based on nostalgia and imagination rather than it being a bad game.
 
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Deleted member 740922

Unconfirmed Member
This kind of SHITE at times from Sony is enraging



And it continues FFS....

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Kokoloko85

Member
Resident Evil 4 sucked as a Resident Evil game. And started the trend of Bad Resident Evil games almost ruining the series until Resident Evil 7.)

I might as write my rest here

- Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are the worst mainline mario games since Mario 2.

- Grand Theft Auto 4 is the best GTA.

- Half Life 2 is overrated

- Halo 1 is overrated

-Witcher 3 was not worth the £10 I spent on it because the combat was meh

-CastleVania simons quest is the best Castlevania game till SOTN came

-Zelda is a RPG
 
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ZZZZ

Member
-The Xbox One has a better library of first party exclusive games than the PS4
-Naughty Dog hasn't made a fun to play game since the PS2 (Jak 3)
-Halo 2 is the best Halo multiplayer, with Halo 5 as a close second
-Call of Duty Black Ops 3 is a bad game, the Zombies mode (which is second worst in my opinion) is the only saving grace to owning the game
-Nintendo has no idea what their customers want and is not good at keeping their older games accessible
-Atlus is actually smart for keeping their games elusive as exclusives to various platforms, as even though it is not pro-consumer at all, it allows them more leverage and the ability to negotiate money to make/keep games exclusive to a given platform (while not confirmed, it is rumored that Sony paid for exclusivity for P5R and maybe even regular P5, and Nintendo for SMTV) thus guaranteeing all their games are successful.
-Bethesda's Creation engine is one of the best engines used by any developer and they absolutely should stick with it for future projects
-Outside of poor pacing and a few poorly baked ideas, TLOU2's story is actually really good even if I feel it needed a more diverse group of writers
Damn, lol.
 

wolywood

Member
Final Fantasy VI doesn't have a particularly good/original story, fun battle system or really any memorable characters except for Kefka. Great soundtrack though.
 

Valentino

Member
- Nothing memorable or iconic has come out of Xbox for over 10 years (only has 2 - Gears & Halo)
- Mircrosoft games only consist of bro dude type games with no variety in story, setting, genres
- People get way too hyped for racing games every year where you customise your car and go round a track....... every....yea. But But have resent for games that have 100x way more going for it.
- FPS are disgusting and have never made me feel like the character. Ever
 
Damn, lol.

Well, for me I just feel like the versatility of their engine and all of the things they do with it are really great. The reality also is that the only game that hasn't looked great for it's time was Fallout 76 and even that improved on a lot of things from Fallout 4. Their engine has a lot of really great character AI elements in both regular NPCs and enemies (especially in Fallout 4), allows them to have their complete open world sandbox in a way unlike many other games and the engine also has the perfect toolset for what they need for a given game (as it damn well should, being proprietary and all). People blame the engine because they think that the engine is a result of the "bad" graphics or the glitches when it really isn't.

And before you call me a Bethesda fan boy or anything, I don't even really care for Skyrim or Fallout 4 all that much, but I definitely appreciate the tech that went into those games even if I wish many things were done better
 

Kokoloko85

Member
Well, for me I just feel like the versatility of their engine and all of the things they do with it are really great. The reality also is that the only game that hasn't looked great for it's time was Fallout 76 and even that improved on a lot of things from Fallout 4. Their engine has a lot of really great character AI elements in both regular NPCs and enemies (especially in Fallout 4), allows them to have their complete open world sandbox in a way unlike many other games and the engine also has the perfect toolset for what they need for a given game (as it damn well should, being proprietary and all). People blame the engine because they think that the engine is a result of the "bad" graphics or the glitches when it really isn't.

And before you call me a Bethesda fan boy or anything, I don't even really care for Skyrim or Fallout 4 all that much, but I definitely appreciate the tech that went into those games even if I wish many things were done better

Its all fun and games in here so what you believe is all good.
Apart from the glitches its a good engine, I just like studios making new engines every gen or so
 

carlosrox

Banned
Bungie is overrated as fuck, as are Halo and Destiny.

They're maybe slightly above average at best.

The success of Halo was a fluke, and nothing really special to begin with.

Feel like they showed their true colors with the way they handled Destiny and they exposed themselves. But yeah, it's a popular game I suppose, but that's not necessarily an indicator of quality.

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Sports games are pure trash to me for the most part.

Sports games, mobile games, and MMO games are pretty much the only kinds of game I almost universally dislike.

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JRPG is a shit term. They're just RPGs to me, as Japanese hit it big with RPGs like FF, DQ, etc etc before the west really hit their stride. And no I don't give a shit about D&D, table top games, or whatever stuff the west was coming out with for the most part.

If anyone deserves the distinction it's WRPGs or ARPGs. "J"RPGs like FF were the real RPGs of the time.

So it's RPGs, not JRPGs, fuck that term.

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Schmup is a stupid fuckin' term too.
 
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Tschumi

Member
I don't think the gender or sexual orientation of characters makes much difference to the game. Even if you think them being overt about their preferences is obnoxious, you need only look at Duke Nukem for a hetero counterpoint :p I think people who are getting worked up about a recent proliferation of more 'progressive' character types are wearing dogpoop coloured goggles. I don't think the industry needs more or less of these representations, but I don't think gameplay has anything to do with it. I do think 'toxic progressiveness' exists, just as the other side has it's fair share of toxicity, but in my world I'm okay with widening representation. Anyway, I'm not here to flame or be flamed about this opinion, but there it is :) I can't promise I'm going to respond to any hateful quotes~ shield activated~

Bungie is overrated as fuck, as are Halo and Destiny.

They're maybe slightly above average at best.

The success of Halo was a fluke,
I think I actually heartily agree with you, Halo lost its luster for me after the first game.... but I do think the first game was pretty legit.
 
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Its all fun and games in here so what you believe is all good.
Apart from the glitches its a good engine, I just like studios making new engines every gen or so

The glitches are usually more game related than engine related, even though it sucks that the dev team sometimes doesn't fix those glitches. But also, the reality is that the Creation Engine has always basically been a "new engine" with every game. Saying it's the same engine is like saying that every Call of Duty game runs on the Quake 3 engine, or that Doom Eternal runs on the Quake 3 engine. There have been major changes to the engine in basically every game (Morrowind to Oblivion, Obvlivion/Fallout 3 to Skyrim, Skyrim to Fallout 4 and Fallout 4 to Fallout 76). Hell, Skyrim Special Edition was just a way for them to test/work on their new changes to the engine while also working on Fallout 4 at the same time and since the game worked without any major glitches on X1/PS4 they decided to release it. It's really like a Ship of Theseus situation with the engine, where they call it the same name but very few if any pieces are still there from the get go just like the various versions of Unreal, ID Tech and any other engine.

Even though the code allowing for multiplayer in Fallout 76 was old code from the original use of the engine with Morrowind
 

Vildiil

Member
While at first I was enamored by the aesthetics and combat animations (Some of the best combat animations in a game currently imo) I think Sekiro is overrated especially when stacked next to the dark souls series and bloodborne.

I found that the stealth in the game was not very good. Enemy placement in numerous areas was poor, and bosses that felt like they should be in a soulsborne game ruined the combat flow that I actually really enjoyed against humanoid enemies and bosses. All in all I know I’m in the minority with this opinion but I’ve given the game 15 hours out of love for the directors other works and just found it to not be my cup of tea and I’m not sure I’ll ever return to it.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
While at first I was enamored by the aesthetics and combat animations (Some of the best combat animations in a game currently imo) I think Sekiro is overrated especially when stacked next to the dark souls series and bloodborne.

I found that the stealth in the game was not very good. Enemy placement in numerous areas was poor, and bosses that felt like they should be in a soulsborne game ruined the combat flow that I actually really enjoyed against humanoid enemies and bosses. All in all I know I’m in the minority with this opinion but I’ve given the game 15 hours out of love for the directors other works and just found it to not be my cup of tea and I’m not sure I’ll ever return to it.
I'm opposite, I personally liked Sekiro more than Dark/Demons Souls series, I absolutely in love with its combat system. Both Sekiro and Bloodborne are my favourite FromSoftware games.
 

Ascend

Member
Games have all that filler and loot boxes because people were complaining too much about the length of their games in the past. Games that were anything less than ~8 hours were slammed for being short, even if it was otherwise a great game (shout out to Mirror's Edge). The result is that games got packed with filler content, and then they tried monetizing that filler content on top of that.
 

Birdo

Banned
I recently found out that liking Test Drive Unlimited 2 was a controversial opinion. So I'm adding it here.
 

Fuz

Banned
I want to find the person who invented the "click to start" screens that only loads to the game's menu and KICK HIM IN HIS STUPID FUCKING FACE.
 

Miles708

Member
I want to find the person who invented the "click to start" screens that only loads to the game's menu and KICK HIM IN HIS STUPID FUCKING FACE.

On the other hand, I hate when games load my save file automatically, without even a title menu to get me in the mood.
 

Lux R7

Member
I want to find the person who invented the "click to start" screens that only loads to the game's menu and KICK HIM IN HIS STUPID FUCKING FACE.

eheh, i'm replaying Lords of The Fallen these days and it's even worse. You'll see the hero's face full screen without the start prompt, then you'll see it with the start prompt and only after that you'll get to the menu.
 
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Orta

Banned
Games with really high difficulty levels simply aren't fun. There's no joy in repeating a task over and over and over as your blood pressure levels go through the roof (and controller through the wall).

Sense of accomplishment my arse.
 
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