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[DryvBy]

PCMR: "PS5 Pro is so expensive! Haha!!"

 

[Senua]

PCMR: "PS5 Pro is so expensive! Haha!!"

It's mostly PS5 gamers saying that lol

 

[FlyyGOD]

Since when did the 5090 come with a CPU?

In relation to the ps5 pro nobody buying a 5090 that can't run games above 30 fps. I'm replying to anyone who is saying get a ps5 pro like it's apples to apples.

 

[Vick]

As long as it offers stuff like Cyberpunk path traced at good framerate and IQ, which ain't even granted on next gen consoles, it's more than worth it. Might even entice devs to push stuff further in a similar fashion in other games.
Every piece of software on Steam and elsewhere is going to benefit automatically from it in a way or another, and it's unquestionably going to show its value clearly once compared with technically advanced games running like absolute ass on consoles for both IQ and performance, while pushing better settings as well; games that are going to be more and more frequent now that the cross-gen phase is over.
Folks might mock the price (and those clowns who made fools of themselves in regards to PS5 Pro), but surely not what this is thing is going to do.

PS5 perf mode looks like someone is playing with a 16bit mod

Veilguard devs might be hacks, but not this much. It looks like that just for a frame or two before FSR does its thing.
4K DLSS Quality Max comparison wouldn't be flattering even outside of consoles.

Makes for very effective warring ammo though.

 

[Bojji]

As long as it offers stuff like Cyberpunk patch traced at good framerate and IQ, which ain't even granted on next gen consoles, it's more than worth it. Might even entice devs to push stuff further in a similar fashion in other games.
Every piece of software on Steam and elsewhere is going to benefit automatically from it in a way or another, and it's unquestionably going to show its value clearly once compared with technically advanced games running like absolute ass on consoles for both IQ and performance, while pushing better settings as well; games that are going to be more and more frequent now that the cross-gen phase is over.
Folks might mock the price (and those clowns who made fools of themselves in regards to PS5 Pro), but surely not what this is thing is going to do.


Veilguard devs might be hacks, but not this much. It looks like that just for a frame or two before FSR does its thing.
4K DLSS Quality Max comparison wouldn't be flattering even outside of consoles.

Makes for very effective warring ammo though.

Enjoy your 720p games I guess.

 

[DryvBy]

It's mostly PS5 gamers saying that lol

It's not mostly. You're forgetting other console gamers will bash console 2 for the big war. And then the console warrior PC gamers (PCMR) will rag on it. PS gamers aren't making YouTube videos of how you can get more power out of a PC with "this build".

 

[hinch7]

$700 for a PS5 PRO
700 for a PS6
$1400 total over 4 years

Eh just don't buy pointless refreshes *shrug*. Especially when hardware is mid.

 

[analog_future]

GeForce RTX 5090, 5080, 5070Ti and 5070 to launch in Q1 2025, RTX 5070 expected to feature 6400 cores - VideoCardz.com

GeForce RTX 50 lineup – new details Benchlife has published an interesting report that not only discusses our leak on the RTX 5070 Ti specifications but also fills in some of the missing details. GeForce RTX 50 lineup and launch timing The site has approached its sources at board partners, who...

videocardz.com

I was kind of hoping sooner than Q1 2025... But I suppose we're a week from December already.

 

[Thebonehead]

As long as it offers stuff like Cyberpunk patch traced at good framerate and IQ, which ain't even granted on next gen consoles, it's more than worth it. Might even entice devs to push stuff further in a similar fashion in other games.
Every piece of software on Steam and elsewhere is going to benefit automatically from it in a way or another, and it's unquestionably going to show its value clearly once compared with technically advanced games running like absolute ass on consoles for both IQ and performance, while pushing better settings as well; games that are going to be more and more frequent now that the cross-gen phase is over.
Folks might mock the price (and those clowns who made fools of themselves in regards to PS5 Pro), but surely not what this is thing is going to do.


Veilguard devs might be hacks, but not this much. It looks like that just for a frame or two before FSR does its thing.
4K DLSS Quality Max comparison wouldn't be flattering even outside of consoles.

Makes for very effective warring ammo though.

Those last two

 

[Magic Carpet]

Eh just don't buy pointless refreshes *shrug*. Especially when hardware is mid.

$400 PS5 regular
$700 PS6
$1100 total over 8 years.

You do indeed save a few bucks there over a much longer time.

 

[TheMan]

The shitty part is they stop production of the previous gen so you can’t buy them new at a lower price

 

[Sanepar]

If the price is that 5080 will be $1299 min. I'm out. For that price they need to offer double in perf.

 

[analog_future]

The shitty part is they stop production of the previous gen so you can’t buy them new at a lower price

That's what the used market is for

 

[dorkimoe]

That's what the used market is for

i take great care of my stuff, but ive learned most people do not.

 

[DeepEnigma]

We are now in performance car parts pricing territory for PCs.

 

[DenchDeckard]

According to?

Edit: Bojji said it was leaked. That's fair.

Jensen is my dad

 

[Bojji]

Jensen is my dad

Were you born with leather jacket?

 

[GHG]

We are now in performance car parts pricing territory for PCs.

Just got some H&R sports lowering springs for my quadrifoglio and they cost a 6th of the price of what these new cards will cost.

A crazy world we live in.

 

[NeonDelta]

$700 for a PS5 PRO
700 for a PS6
$1400 total over 4 years

Getting into PC prices here people.

if you plan to use it until the ps6 pro that would be over 8 years

It’s like saying…

$1600 4090
$2000 5090

That’s $3600 over 2 1/4 years

 

[R6Rider]

Still cheaper than Five Guys burgers.

Yeah, but you can't eat a 5090.

 

[Vick]

Enjoy your 720p games I guess.

On the Pro you mean? Considering if a game I want to play looks like ass on console I simply wouldn't be playing it on console, I'd say zero chances.

I would prefer to, as I like to buy physical and I have no means to connect the PC to the Home Theatre without massive headaches and changes, but still.
So far these are the games I've played on the console and they all satisfied me with 4K and RT at 60fps, TLOU aside but just because that game has no RT at all. All gameplay screenshots from 60fps Modes, no Photo-Mode:

And I know RE4 screenshots are ruined by CA and Lens Distortion and Motion Blur and DoF, but that's how I like it motion as the raw native 4K presentation when turning all off is too gamey for me in comparison.

Also tried Forbidden West for a few minutes, looking absolutely stunning at 60fps. As soon as I'm completely done with RE4R I want to give a chance to Ragnarok DLC after the praise I've read to its IQ, and the game is also supposedly visually better than PC version to begin with.

Sure that are an handful of stinkers like AW2, but luckily I've never enjoyed a Remedy game since Max Payne 2. The little kind of exception would be the first Alan Wake, maybe as I've revisited this year and it's really not a good game imo and it's been a pain to go through, and the game ran at 544p on Xbox 360 with texture resolution worthy of PS2 and ended up looking a whole generation behind stuff we've seen later on running on the same machines. Remedy's reputation on PC never applied to consoles.

But please do continue with your campaign against this console as it's always amusing and entertaining.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Good thing the 5070 will be a reasonable purchase that will work for a decade.

 

[Magic Carpet]

if you plan to use it until the ps6 pro that would be over 8 years

It’s like saying…

$1600 4090
$2000 5090

That’s $3600 over 2 1/4 years

Yep, it's 'spensive all right.
Acckkktually
$600 rtx4070 released in 2023.
I could stop right here and be good till 2028.

 

[hinch7]

$400 PS5 regular
$700 PS6
$1100 total over 8 years.

You do indeed save a few bucks there over a much longer time.

Generations are getting longer so maybe $600+ going forward, every 7-8 years if you stick to OG console.

Though there is cost of games, accessories and subs to consider. Which console gamers convieniently forgot before spouting bwaah 2000 DoLLaRs fOr GPUuu and whatever nonsense.

 

[Gamer79]

 

[Bojji]

On the Pro you mean? Considering if a game I want to play looks like ass on console I simply wouldn't be playing it on console, I'd say zero chances.

I would prefer to, as I like to buy physical and I have no means to connect the PC to the Home Theatre without massive headaches and changes, but still.
So far these are the games I've played on the console and they all satisfied me with 4K and RT at 60fps, TLOU aside but just because that game has no RT at all. All gameplay screenshots from 60fps Modes, no Photo-Mode:

And I know RE4 screenshots are ruined by CA and Lens Distortion and Motion Blur and DoF, but that's how I like it motion as the raw native 4K presentation when turning all off is too gamey for me in comparison.

Also tried Forbidden West for a few minutes, looking absolutely stunning at 60fps. As soon as I'm completely done with RE4R I want to give a chance to Ragnarok DLC after the praise I've read to its IQ, and the game is also supposedly visually better than PC version to begin with.

Sure that are an handful of stinkers like AW2, but luckily I've never enjoyed a Remedy game since Max Payne 2. The little kind of exception would be the first Alan Wake, maybe as I've revisited this year and it's really not a good game imo and it's been a pain to go through, and the game ran at 544p on Xbox 360 with texture resolution worthy of PS2 and ended up looking a whole generation behind stuff we've seen later on running on the same machines. Remedy's reputation on PC never applied to consoles.

But please do continue with your campaign against this console as it's always amusing and entertaining.

There will be more games in the future with low resolutions on pro and even lower resolution on standard consoles. Developers pushing new tech will do it at the cost of image quality. NOW you have games with 900p, 800p, 720p and even below on 16TF console. Only way to avoid this nonsense is getting pc.

Good thing the 5070 will be a reasonable purchase that will work for a decade.

Now with that 12GB of vram, it will be serviceable until next gen consoles but it won't allow for max settings in many games.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Only way to avoid this nonsense is spending a whole lot more money.

FTFY

 

[asdasdasdbb]

There will be more games in the future with low resolutions on pro and even lower resolution on standard consoles. Developers pushing new tech will do it at the cost of image quality. NOW you have games with 900p, 800p, 720p and even below on 16TF console. Only way to avoid this nonsense is getting pc.

You're gonna have to do that too on PC if you don't pony up for a good card.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The one on the left reminds me of the PSX.

Haha I thought the same thing. Looks like it could be a screenshot from Chrono Cross or something.

 

[Bojji]

FTFY

You're gonna have to do that too on PC if you don't pony up for a good card.

No one said otherwise.

But that doesn't mean you have to buy 2k 5090. There are always GPUs that present very good performance while costing reasonable amounts of money.

 

[Hohenheim]

Pathetic if you buy this even with the disposable income you should have a long hard think about whether the money would be better invested in a PS5 pro.

What NVIDIA bullshit marketing features will this have? Fake frames? More fake frames? Fake colors?

Wow. You actually did a treble in this post. Three retarded takes in one post.
Another H Holst in disguise over here?

 

[DeepEnigma]

No one said otherwise.

But that doesn't mean you have to buy 2k 5090. There are always GPUs that present very good performance while costing reasonable amounts of money.

Which makes the whole $700 trolling for a complete system that is bridging a gap in IQ, all the more clownish.

We have come full circle. Honk honk!

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Given how much money is pumped into their stocks I feel like they are having to push these prices if they can't sell to retail they'll sell to corps for the "A.I"

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

[8 million ps5pro screenshots]

But please do continue with your campaign against this console as it's always amusing and entertaining.

if you like the improved image quality of the ps5pro, you should see these games on pc

 

[DeepEnigma]

if you like the improved image quality of the ps5pro, you should see these games on pc

He games on PC.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We are now in performance car parts pricing territory for PCs.

 

[marquimvfs]

day 1 for me, you can live just fine with 1 kidney

Not if you're from USA. Drugs price will be another 5090, hahahaha

 

[Bojji]

Which makes the whole $700 trolling for a complete system that is bridging a gap in IQ, all the more clownish.

We have come full circle. Honk honk!

You can make pc better than pro for 970 Euro, you won't have to drop resolutions as much and quality will always be better thanks to dlss. I'm talking 5600, 4070.

Value of pro outside us is quite poor, for 800 Euro you don't get a lot of performance uplift.

 

[Puscifer]

Just buy a PS5 Pro. Lol.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

with all the bad press around the 12 pin, I am surprised it took this long and wasn't already done with the RTX40 Super revisions.

RTX40 Super cards already uses the 12V-2x6 power connector.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

He games on PC.

i dont need to hear his life's story

 

[analog_future]

Now that Xbox is dead, this PC vs Playstation war shit is as tiresome as ever.

• PS5 Pro is a super impressive box, an excellent value at $700, and will outperform pretty much any PC in that price range.
• High-end PC gaming will blow away anything the PS5 Pro is able to do, but is an objectively worse value and you will pay 3x-5x the price.

Bam, done. Quit being babies.

 

[Pop]

Suckers spend money on dumb shit everyday

Whatever

 

[asdasdasdbb]

So according to this: https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce...in-q1-rtx-5070-expected-to-feature-6400-cores

The 5090 has...

2x the CUDA cores
2x the memory
75% more memory bandwidth
50% more power consumption

than the 5080.

 

[DeepEnigma]

i dont need to hear his life's story

 

[Vick]

if you like the improved image quality of the ps5pro, you should see these games on pc

These games?

PC Native 4K:

PS5 Pro Performance:

Native 4K DLAA:

4K DLSSQ (1440p internal):

PS5 Pro PSSR (1440p internal):

1:1 PSSR

1:1 PSSR

Resident Evil 4 is native 4K on Pro..

Shamelessly lying like this doesn't really send a good message.

He games on PC.

Not really, I don't recall buying a single current gen game on Steam. Last time I've upgraded is in the previous gen. Waiting for the right game, or proper Cyberpunk path tracing performance and IQ.

 

[analog_future]

These games?

PC Native 4K:

PS5 Pro Performance:

Native 4K DLAA:

4K DLSSQ (1440p internal):

PS5 Pro PSSR (1440p internal):

1:1 PSSR

1:1 PSSR

Resident Evil 4 is native 4K on Pro..

Shamelessly lying like this doesn't really send a good message.


Not really, I don't recall buying a single current gen game on Steam. Last time I've upgraded is in the previous gen. Waiting for the right game, or proper Cyberpunk path tracing performance and IQ.

1. Even in your cherry picked shots, Callisto looks noticeably better on PC
2. Image quality doesn't just pertain to still images. 4K/30 will look exponentially less sharp in motion compared to 4K/120, for example.

 

[Bojji]

So according to this: https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce...in-q1-rtx-5070-expected-to-feature-6400-cores

The 5090 has...

2x the CUDA cores
2x the memory
75% more memory bandwidth
50% more power consumption

than the 5080.

Yep. It won't be 100% more powerful but at least 50% for sure.

Depending on the price 5080 could be good or just total cash grab.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

heh sorry, my joke didnt really work via text i guess.

Shamelessly lying [that the ps5pro is as good as the best PC] doesn't really send a good message.

somedays i wish i were this retarded

with pc you dont need to use DLSS
can go above 4k
can force custom settings
can go above 60fps
etc

might cost a kidney, but hey

 

[DeepEnigma]

You can make pc better than pro for 970 Euro, you won't have to drop resolutions as much and quality will always be better thanks to dlss. I'm talking 5600, 4070.

Value of pro outside us is quite poor, for 800 Euro you don't get a lot of performance uplift.

We've been down that road. It was all trash parts.

You know this.