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[STARSBarry]

This is a concern for me. That fist blurb is a bit suspect but your graph seems to support it. My AIO is top mounted but my case has excellent airflow, guess I’ll find out when I get one.

It's not insomountable, they did state adjusting the fancurve especially in something like the fractal can give you much better cooling, it is however much louder (as you would expect) and was not needed for prior generations.

But other components are still a concern due to this, honestly people are saying 1000 wattage PSU minimum 1300+ recommended, I honestly just think it's too much power, they need to focus on efficiency, this is the same mistake Intel where making.

 

[Ellery]

Oh damn. I didn't expect it to be such a huge disappointment.

It is much slower and less efficient than I expected it to be.

Honestly looks like what a $800 card should be in 2025, but without that horrible 600W power usage.

Way too expensive. Not enough PC games and heats up your case significantly too.

How did they screw that one up huh

 

[STARSBarry]

Spotted this in the comments of this video Kilau looks like we might get an answer sooner rather than later.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Aw man I like Paul, sucks that he couldn’t do his own review thanks to all the issues he had.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Oh damn. I didn't expect it to be such a huge disappointment.

It is much slower and less efficient than I expected it to be.

Honestly looks like what a $800 card should be in 2025, but without that horrible 600W power usage.

Way too expensive. Not enough PC games and heats up your case significantly too.

How did they screw that one up huh

Yeah it really sucks. Basically no increase in performance/watt or performance/$ compared to last gen over 2 years ago unless you use multi frame generation.

I wanted Nvidia to make me feel like my 4090 was old and busted in comparison. Instead it’s kinda pointless to upgrade.

Also the best new feature (new transformer-based DLSS) is coming to previous gen cards so that’s pretty cool

 

[SolidQ]

 

[Draugoth]

The insane 100W power consumption increase tells me this is just an RTX 4090 Ti, either that or Moore's Law is alive

RTX 4090 prices will skyrocket because it's a much better value card.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

That’s cute. You actually think you’re gonna be able to get one.

I'm not so worried and will not go sleep over it either.

 

[analog_future]

ffs. Glad I have a 1200w PSU

 

[LiquidMetal14]

ffs. Glad I have a 1200w PSU

Me too man. I'm in for probably the founders but probably won't spend more than the $2,200 versions. I'm not allowed to look into those $2700 beasts

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The insane 100W power consumption increase tells me this is just an RTX 4090 Ti, either that or Moore's Law is alive

RTX 4090 prices will skyrocket because it's a much better value card.

Yeah oddly enough this is one reason I might grab a 5090 if the opportunity presents itself. Might as well sell the 4090 while the prices are high. I can probably sell it for the same price I paid for it 2 years ago.

 

[TheTurboFD]

Seeing people shit on the card all over different sites , lets see if its real and I can score one on release day lol

 

[scydrex]

You mean life for gaming or life before it breaks?

5090 will get you through whole PS6 generation, maybe it will loose to PS6 Pro - this message can be quoted in 2035.

I hope so for a $2000 the 500w GPU alone. This is a 4090Ti not a 5090.

 

[analog_future]

Me too man. I'm in for probably the founders but probably won't spend more than the $2,200 versions. I'm not allowed to look into those $2700 beasts

I'm in the exact same bag. If I can't get one for $2200 or less at launch, I will wait until I can.

 

[Kilau]

FFS Asus

 

[analog_future]

FFS Asus

I'm at the point where even with the limited stock, I'm going to be surprised if these cards they're asking $2800 for sell out.

Like who the hell is going to buy these?

 

[Kilau]

I'm at the point where even with the limited stock, I'm going to be surprised if these cards they're asking $2800 for sell out.

Like who the hell is going to buy these?

With those temps and that price, I would hesitate.

 

[kittoo]

Yeah I was dead set on 5090, but wavering now. Don't need that heat and power consumption. Need to think about this more.

 

[kiphalfton]

FFS Asus

40% uptick for what exactly.

I was under the impression Nvidia reference was just as good as AIB since like the RTX 2000 series...

So not real sure why the price premium is so much if that's actually the case, since at that point the only thing differentiating the Asus AIB stuff is the shroud, fans, cooling, and appearance wise. I wouldn't imagine that's more than $200 right there, and then $600 more for branding?

 

[nemiroff]

The price is not a problem, the 30% raster performance improvement is fine. ..The TDP on the other hand...

GPU: RTX5090 seems to love to run close to its max at 575W.
CPU: about 120W to 150W.
Motherboard: Around 30W to 50W.
RAM: Around 10W to 20W.
Storage : M.2 drives, around 10W each.
Cooling: Can add another 20W to 50W.
Other peripherals: Around 10W to 20W.

Adding these up, a high-end PC with an RTX 5090 could end up generating up to ~900W of heat...

..But knowing myself, I'll probably end up with one regardless... I'm hopeless...

 

[MikeM]

The price is not a problem, the 30% raster performance improvement is fine. ..The TDP on the other hand...

GPU: RTX5090 seems to love to run close to its max at 575W.
CPU: about 120W to 150W.
Motherboard: Around 30W to 50W.
RAM: Around 10W to 20W.
Storage : M.2 drives, around 10W each.
Cooling: Can add another 20W to 50W.
Other peripherals: Around 10W to 20W.

Adding these up, a high-end PC with an RTX 5090 could end up generating up to ~900W of heat...

..But knowing myself, I'll probably end up with one regardless... I'm hopeless...

I wouldn’t buy the 5090 with that power draw unless I used it for business. Its absurd.

The only one that really has me remotely interested it the 5070ti super. The 5080 seems like a meh upgrade at best.

 

[Draugoth]

The price is not a problem, the 30% raster performance improvement is fine. ..The TDP on the other hand...

GPU: RTX5090 seems to love to run close to its max at 575W.
CPU: about 120W to 150W.
Motherboard: Around 30W to 50W.
RAM: Around 10W to 20W.
Storage : M.2 drives, around 10W each.
Cooling: Can add another 20W to 50W.
Other peripherals: Around 10W to 20W.

Adding these up, a high-end PC with an RTX 5090 could end up generating up to ~900W of heat...

..But knowing myself, I'll probably end up with one regardless... I'm hopeless...

The Suprim Liquid is the only one that runs around 450W

 

[Idleyes]

The heat is not an issue for my PC case because the CPU is both water cooled with the radiator at the bottom of the case and the CPU is seated below the GPU. The minmaxer in me is still on the fence about upgrading from 4090 to 5090 but it's highly unlikely because of price and availability. I'll be forced to wait for next gen anyway.

My shit presentation

Edit: Forgot there is Air In from both the front and back. I'm at work and going off memory but basically the GPU feeding heat to he CPU is not something I have to worry about.

 

[SmoothBrain]

Sweet Jesus, the power cable is getting roasted, according to Hardware Unboxed. Default at around 70c, OC'ed up to 80c.
I'm... Yeah, don't know about that one. Video with timestamp for the cable.

 

[Magic Carpet]

3D printer or RTX 5090?
I may just use the money I've been saving up on a new hobby of printing my own pile of plastic things.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

FFS Asus

Thankfully I have hearing damage from my old Radeon VII so I won’t even be able to hear that.

 

[twilo99]

Do you have a source for this blurb? Couple of things standout that make me question this.

I’ll try to find it

 

[kittoo]

I’ll try to find it

If the DLSS is so good, maybe I can live with a 5080 till the next gen, even with the measly 16GB VRAM.

 

[Ulysses 31]

 

[Kilau]

I’ll try to find it

I did try also but doesn’t matter at this point I think. Aside from them comparing temps on different CPUs it seems there is something to it.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'm not so worried and will not go sleep over it either.

I would advise sleep. It helps.

 

[moogman]

If the DLSS is so good, maybe I can live with a 5080 till the next gen, even with the measly 16GB VRAM.

That's where I'm heading too I think. Not a great upgrade over the 4080, but cheaper and a bit faster. Coming from a 3080 that's good enough, and I'm getting worried that the 5090 is going to cause issues with that amount of heat pumped into the case.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

want one @MSRP but not higher
will probably get screwed there

power draw is biggest ever, but temps are good
great 4k performance

 

[nemiroff]

DLSS be like

 

[UnrealEck]

It's crazy that a new gen card is coming out in a week and my RTX 4090 on ebay is literally the same to buy second hand as I paid for it new.
Never seen this before in 25 years of PC gaming.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Yeah it really sucks. Basically no increase in performance/watt or performance/$ compared to last gen over 2 years ago unless you use multi frame generation.

I wanted Nvidia to make me feel like my 4090 was old and busted in comparison. Instead it’s kinda pointless to upgrade.

Also the best new feature (new transformer-based DLSS) is coming to previous gen cards so that’s pretty cool

Be glad they didn’t since you won’t be able to find one.

 

[nemiroff]

It's crazy that a new gen card is coming out in a week and my RTX 4090 on ebay is literally the same to buy second hand as I paid for it new.
Never seen this before in 25 years of PC gaming.

Yeah it's even crazier here in my country.. Several well-known online stores here are selling new 4090s at ~4000 USD...

Even used my card is selling for up to ~500USD more than what I paid for it.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

That's where I'm heading too I think. Not a great upgrade over the 4080, but cheaper and a bit faster. Coming from a 3080 that's good enough, and I'm getting worried that the 5090 is going to cause issues with that amount of heat pumped into the case.

If people are legit selling their 4090s for nearly $2000, I could see myself downgrading to a 5080 and pocketing the savings. I’d take advantage of the 4X frame gen for the smoothness.

That’s doubtful as I’m more likely to hang onto my 4090.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Yes it’s meh, no need to buy that lame 5090, everyone stay away. You don’t need it or want it, it’s garbage.

Agree! Please stay away from this trash card. Save your money

 

[BacklashWave534]

If people are legit selling their 4090s for nearly $2000, I could see myself downgrading to a 5080 and pocketing the savings. I’d take advantage of the 4X frame gen for the smoothness.

That’s doubtful as I’m more likely to hang onto my 4090.

Right now they are selling at around $1750 minus fees. You would probably pocket $1500.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

It's crazy that a new gen card is coming out in a week and my RTX 4090 on ebay is literally the same to buy second hand as I paid for it new.
Never seen this before in 25 years of PC gaming.

You should hold onto it longer.

A) you’re not getting a 5090. You won’t be able to find one.

B) once 5090s sellout I could actually see 4090s going for MORE since they will be the 2nd best GPU available.

 

[kittoo]

That's where I'm heading too I think. Not a great upgrade over the 4080, but cheaper and a bit faster. Coming from a 3080 that's good enough, and I'm getting worried that the 5090 is going to cause issues with that amount of heat pumped into the case.

Yeah I am coming from a 3080 too. Was really set on 5090 but man it's not looking good. The heat, the power usage and terrible price to perf

 

[moogman]

It's crazy that a new gen card is coming out in a week and my RTX 4090 on ebay is literally the same to buy second hand as I paid for it new.
Never seen this before in 25 years of PC gaming.

It's a weird one as there's an argument that the 4090 at MSRP is as good a card as the 5090 at MSRP. Similar raw performance for the price and you lose on MFG, but gain on heat generation. In hindsight there's probably good reason why Nvidia stopped producing them so early.

The 5090 doesn't look a bad card, but its price increase definitely would have made the 4090 an option still at normal prices.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I’m searching but can’t find it explicitly stated…
I know some DLSS4 features will make it to the 4000 series, just not 4X FG. But is the new AI DLSS going to make its way to the 4000 series, also or will it still be using the CNN model?

 

[Bernoulli]

I’m searching but can’t find it explicitly stated…
I know some DLSS4 features will make it to the 4000 series, just not 4X FG. But is the new AI DLSS going to make its way to the 4000 series, also or will it still be using the CNN model?

It will use the new model

 

[JohnnyFootball]

It will use the new model

That’s what I thought. I can live without 4X FG, I’m not liking the idea of 75% of my frames being AI generated.

 

[hinch7]

I'm at the point where even with the limited stock, I'm going to be surprised if these cards they're asking $2800 for sell out.

Like who the hell is going to buy these?

You'd be surprised. For professional use like video editing and Ai workloads these will be very sought after cards. And thats not even considering scalpers.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

 

[//DEVIL//]

I'm at the point where even with the limited stock, I'm going to be surprised if these cards they're asking $2800 for sell out.

Like who the hell is going to buy these?

There is a big performance difference between the FE and Suprim X when OC. i am expecting the same with Astral.

it sounds like there is 5090 FE which is 4090 ti. and then the astral / surpim X and sounds like 4090ti super.

at least from hardware unboxed video. when he manually over clocked, the difference between 5090 manual OC and 4090 is huge.


with that being said. I think I am sticking to 4090 for now.

 

[Clear]

LOL at people being surprised that a GPU that pulls 575w is heating the inside of their cases... I can heat a small room using less power than that!