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[Rygar 8 Bit]

its supposed to be stereo there is something wrong with your jack

some games came in and cat refused to move

centurion defender of rome, exile (another renovation game kinda clunky in the action rpg parts but overall the game is pretty rad has a normal jrpg over world while exploring then goes act raiser 2d side scrolling action rpg when you get into a dungeon or a fight)

starcontol, alien 3

 

[IrishNinja]

damn, i remember reading previews for 3 of those in Game Players (dont recall Exile) and wanting to play them, but the mom & pop rental spots nearby didnt have em, except Alien 3 but some kid jacked it and put bart vs space mutants or some shit back in there.

for years since i'd see people talk about Star Control and go FUCK YEAH only to realize the one i played to death was Starflight

 

[Teknoman]

Is that the same Exile as PC engine / TG16?

 

[Genesis Knight]

Yes. The ports have differences but it's the same game.

 

[Dave Long]

Alien 3 is cheap and well worth owning. It's a great game on Genesis.

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

damn, i remember reading previews for 3 of those in Game Players (dont recall Exile) and wanting to play them, but the mom & pop rental spots nearby didnt have em, except Alien 3 but some kid jacked it and put bart vs space mutants or some shit back in there.

for years since i'd see people talk about Star Control and go FUCK YEAH only to realize the one i played to death was Starflight

star flight is pretty good but it has nothing on star control

 

[vvise]

My post from the BST thread. Think i'm aiming too high?

So I totally have the manual for this game, but not the cartridge or case. Great game, childhood fav. I don't think I ever beat it though.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I beat Phantasy Star II tonight, for the first time in at least 15 years.

It was not as difficult as I remembered it, for a few reasons. 1) I was much smarter about the combat system this time around, and my character swapping experiment paid off. 2) I used a few maps I'd made some years ago, and did look at online maps for a couple of the nastier dungeons (namely the Uzo space port, holy crap). And 3), I was still familiar enough with the game that there was a lot less wandering from place to place.

Dark Force and Mother Brain didn't put up that much of a fight, despite the fact that Rolf (or Ghal, in my game) was only level 32 - no Megid for me. My crew for the Dezo stage of the game was Ghal, Amy, Anna and Rudo. Amy was rocking her Silentshot, and Anna had the Snow Crown. And I equipped everyone with an item that cast Gires in combat (Truth Sleeves, etc.).

Anna would cast Deban via the Snow Crown right off the bat, halving our damage. More often than not, Amy would paralyze someone, usually the monster I was going to focus the team on second. The result was very often a fully paralyzed group of enemies, which let everyone take a round to use their healing item. So trips into dungeons lasted a very long time, since Amy didn't have to cast her healing spells nearly as often. We tore through the first three Nei dungeons.

I wish Sega would re-release the game with a new translation. The original is pretty poor, with lots of odd phrasing, grammatical mistakes, typos, and some incomplete sentences. It has a charm to it, but a modern re-write would go a long ways. I did check out the Sega Ages game via Youtube and thought it looked horrifying.

I wrapped up with about 28.5 hours on the save. It's still one of my favorite RPG's ever, for the focused dungeon crawling, moderately high difficulty, the music and a story that held up surprisingly well (despite the stilted translation).

I'm thinking of playing through Phantasy Star IV, which I started a couple years ago for the very first time on the Ultimate collection, but never beat. I might try a blind run, no online help at all, to recreate the way I'd have played it for the first time when it came out. (Well, I'd use the save states now and then.)

 

[IrishNinja]

congrats, ghal! damn that's a low level for me, but yeah, seeing you used buffs so often that makes me feel i should've likewise incorporated them, honestly just disregarded them for so many years before SMT III that it was an afterthought.

what was horrifying about the sega ages one? and IV is the one im looking forward to as well, much more varied settings as i recall with some great (actual) character interactions, and again i give it a lotta credit for even working III into the whole plot. still surprised the "TALK" feature didn't take off in the rest of the genre.

 

[sega4ever]

I beat Phantasy Star II tonight, for the first time in at least 15 years.

It was not as difficult as I remembered it, for a few reasons. 1) I was much smarter about the combat system this time around, and my character swapping experiment paid off. 2) I used a few maps I'd made some years ago, and did look at online maps for a couple of the nastier dungeons (namely the Uzo space port, holy crap). And 3), I was still familiar enough with the game that there was a lot less wandering from place to place.

Dark Force and Mother Brain didn't put up that much of a fight, despite the fact that Rolf (or Ghal, in my game) was only level 32 - no Megid for me. My crew for the Dezo stage of the game was Ghal, Amy, Anna and Rudo. Amy was rocking her Silentshot, and Anna had the Snow Crown. And I equipped everyone with an item that cast Gires in combat (Truth Sleeves, etc.).

Anna would cast Deban via the Snow Crown right off the bat, halving our damage. More often than not, Amy would paralyze someone, usually the monster I was going to focus the team on second. The result was very often a fully paralyzed group of enemies, which let everyone take a round to use their healing item. So trips into dungeons lasted a very long time, since Amy didn't have to cast her healing spells nearly as often. We tore through the first three Nei dungeons.

I wish Sega would re-release the game with a new translation. The original is pretty poor, with lots of odd phrasing, grammatical mistakes, typos, and some incomplete sentences. It has a charm to it, but a modern re-write would go a long ways. I did check out the Sega Ages game via Youtube and thought it looked horrifying.

I wrapped up with about 28.5 hours on the save. It's still one of my favorite RPG's ever, for the focused dungeon crawling, moderately high difficulty, the music and a story that held up surprisingly well (despite the stilted translation).

I'm thinking of playing through Phantasy Star IV, which I started a couple years ago for the very first time on the Ultimate collection, but never beat. I might try a blind run, no online help at all, to recreate the way I'd have played it for the first time when it came out. (Well, I'd use the save states now and then.)

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/72/

Once, long ago, some folks who could both English and Japanese realized something. The script for one of the greatest 16-bit RPGs of all-time had been butchered in its English translation. Which is quite a pity, to be sure. So some fellows going by Hirata and Zickefoose rectified it by translating the game into English, and stick it in a text file somewhere. Then Naflign steps in. He adored Phantasy 2 (as anyone in their right mind SHOULD), and set about hacking this script into the game. And guess what?! He met with success. So now, you can enjoy Phantasy Star 2 in it’s proper english glory.

 

[Darksol]

Shining Force is the first RPG I can recall putting serious hours into. It still stands up, and I play it fairly regularly.

 

[sixteen-bit]

OCRemix released a Gunstar Heroes tribute album recently

http://gunstar.ocremix.org/

 

[ZealousD]

My local game store had a sealed copy of Pier Solar in stock.

Pretty expensive (he was asking $140) and it's not really my genre but it was cool to see!

 

[BosSin]

My local game store had a sealed copy of Pier Solar in stock.

Pretty expensive (he was asking $140) and it's not really my genre but it was cool to see!

Still waiting for Watermelon to start making those new batch of repros

 

[Genesis Knight]

Still waiting for Watermelon to start making those new batch of repros

Prolly too busy porting it to Dreamcast/XBLA/Steam/PSN/Android/iOS.

 

[Diablohead]

todds adventures in slime world came just a couple more and ill have all the renovation games

Interesting game going by youtube videos, not sure if I could play that today without feeling like the entire game is broken.

OCRemix released a Gunstar Heroes tribute album recently

http://gunstar.ocremix.org/

some ok songs but nothing special IMO.

 

[Genesis Knight]

Nice to see OCRemix doesn't ENTIRELY consist of Final Fantasy and Nintendo fanboys.

 

[Teknoman]

Shining Force is the first RPG I can recall putting serious hours into. It still stands up, and I play it fairly regularly.

Amazing soundtrack too, especially II and CD.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

Im just starting Shining Force 1 today, gonna try to make it the first RPG i beat on my goal list, before i move into PSII

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

Interesting game going by youtube videos, not sure if I could play that today without feeling like the entire game is broken.

it is pretty clunky but still a decent game

 

[Tagyhag]

On that note: what were some of your lesser-known favorites? Mine were:

• El Viento

You, I like you. El Viento got hard pretty fast, but really fun game, kickass soundtrack too.

For me, it was Generations Lost.

Controls were a bit clunky but the laser mechanic was great. I thought the graphics were pretty good for the Genesis.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

Generations Lost looks so much better then it's boxart would lead you to think:

 

[theSlacker]

Still waiting for Watermelon to start making those new batch of repros

They recently sent out an email to people that have the next batch preordered. They have nowhere near the number sold to make them right now, and will make all the ones preorderd when they have their next game made. They are offering refunds for people who don't want to wait.

 

[daninthemix]

some ok songs but nothing special IMO.

Agreed, but then was there anything special about the original soundtrack? In fact, have Treasure ever made a decent soundtrack?

 

[zmet]

In fact, have Treasure ever made a decent soundtrack?

Alien Solder and McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure have great soundtracks.

Alien Soldier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsdOireqxDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EN2_VoqM2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw8h3MTDPxQ

Treasure Land Adventures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svk1zZm6dvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESK3qGFB2OM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJCQDbSn1w

Light Crusader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5eqputSRHU&feature=share&list=PLA60E11CC0869293C

 

[stewy]

They recently sent out an email to people that have the next batch preordered. They have nowhere near the number sold to make them right now, and will make all the ones preorderd when they have their next game made. They are offering refunds for people who don't want to wait.

That sucks. I just preordered one a couple weeks ago.

 

[sixteen-bit]

New episode of Player One Podcast's Generation-16 is out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv2dBIr3wbs

 

[Teknoman]

Agreed, but then was there anything special about the original soundtrack? In fact, have Treasure ever made a decent soundtrack?

Have they?!

Guardian Heroes, Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, Gradius V, Sin and Punishment, Sin and Punishment 2. Especially Guardian Heroes.

 

[Shadow Hog]

I'd say especially Radiant Silvergun, personally. Hitoshi Sakimoto at his best. If you even vaguely liked Vagrant Story's soundtrack, you'll like this one as well.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

So, i've got a chance to buy some manuals that will complete some of my boxed games. I've got a budget of around 30 bucks, so help me make the right choice!

Space Invaders '91 ($8)
Fun 'N Games ($4)
Krusty's Super Fun House ($3)
Lightening Force ($9)
Exile ($11)
Ghouls 'N Ghosts ($10)
Rambo 3 ($7)
Rolling Thunder 2 ($8)
Wolverine ($10)
Wonder Boy in Monster World ($10)
Junction ($7)

 

[Shane]

What a thread.

Splatterhouse 2 is the best Megadrive game.

There's a place in the UK that will mod the Megadrive for 60hz with a language switch (so Streets of Rage 3 will switch over to the Japanese version). Really tempted to dig all my stuff back out and build up a great collection once again....sold it all to help my Dad get a PS1 on launch week.

And that XRGB-mini looks incredible. But that price tag. Ouch.

Often forgotten gem:

 

[Shane]

Lightening Force ($9)

That's your priority there.

 

[ZealousD]

Often forgotten gem:

I'm thinking of getting Alisia Dragoon one of these days. Look as really fun and female protagonists were so rare at the time. I mean they're still less common than they should be, but even more so back in the day.

 

[baphomet]

What a thread.

Splatterhouse 2 is the best Megadrive game.

There's a place in the UK that will mod the Megadrive for 60hz with a language switch (so Streets of Rage 3 will switch over to the Japanese version). Really tempted to dig all my stuff back out and build up a great collection once again....sold it all to help my Dad get a PS1 on launch week.

And that XRGB-mini looks incredible. But that price tag. Ouch.

Often forgotten gem:

Just so you know, a language switch isn't going to switch SoR3 to Bare Knuckle 3. All regions got their own carts with no other region on them for SoR3. It'll work on 1 and 2, but it doesn't work for everything.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Love the tunes in Alisia Dragoon

 

[Slermy]

And that XRGB-mini looks incredible. But that price tag. Ouch.

Often forgotten gem:

The XRGB-mini is a pricey piece of kit, but it's very much worth it. I was already using S-Video out and was STILL blown away.

 

[Shane]

I'm thinking of getting Alisia Dragoon one of these days. Look as really fun and female protagonists were so rare at the time. I mean they're still less common than they should be, but even more so back in the day.

It's good. Exploring the levels is important due to all the secrets dotted about that you'll need. You have one life which makes the RPG-lite elements vital to survival. Leveling up all the little pets/animals/cantthinkoftherightword is a neat addition too.

Never completed it. One day.

The XRGB-mini is a pricey piece of kit, but it's very much worth it. I was already using S-Video out and was STILL blown away.

Scart out on my HDTV looks terri-ar-bluh at the moment. I watched some videos of the XRGB-mini and it looked great; no doubt better in person. I'm currently more excited to go back and build up a Megadrive collection then I am to be a 'day one' next-gen console owner. Will wait a little longer and make sure nostalgia isn't clouding common sense.

Just so you know, a language switch isn't going to switch SoR3 to Bare Knuckle 3. All regions got their own carts with no other region on them for SoR3. It'll work on 1 and 2, but it doesn't work for everything.

Ah, okay. I was under the recent belief that the cart inners were the same and it would switch depending on the machine it was put in. Will be fun experimenting and finding out. Only played SoR3 on a rental back in't day so would be good to get the best version possible eventually.

 

[baphomet]

They are on a lot of games, but the newish ones usually don't change when switching the region. Unfortunately buying a Bare Knuckle 3 cart is the only way to play the best version outside of an ever drive. I was disappointed to find that out when trying to switch Contra to Japanese to get the 3 hits per life instead of the 1 hit kill we ended up with. It is definitely neat seeing what's different between regions though.

 

[Shane]

They are on a lot of games, but the newish ones usually don't change when switching the region. Unfortunately buying a Bare Knuckle 3 cart is the only way to play the best version outside of an ever drive. I was disappointed to find that out when trying to switch Contra to Japanese to get the 3 hits per life instead of the 1 hit kill we ended up with. It is definitely neat seeing what's different between regions though.

I was reading up on the Everdrive Flastcart thingymabob. Seems like it will be the only way to play some of these games in the future. Especially when GAME here in the UK culled all their old games/consoles rather than doing a giveaway sale. Being able to save would be a great option. I know Sonic 3 has internal memory for saving that'll run out eventually if not already.

 

[SnowTeeth]

Agreed, but then was there anything special about the original soundtrack? In fact, have Treasure ever made a decent soundtrack?

That's it. I'm almost convinced that some elements of GAF seem to have a vendetta against the Gunstar Heroes soundtrack for some bewildering reason. How is it not 'decent'?


EDIT: I'm referring to the OST, haven't heard the OC version yet.

 

[Genesis Knight]

Gunstar Heroes, Light Crusader, Radiant Silvergun, and Ikaruga are all amazing Treasure OSTs.

Y'all need to shape the hell up.

 

[Lettuce]

What a thread.

Splatterhouse 2 is the best Megadrive game.

There's a place in the UK that will mod the Megadrive for 60hz with a language switch (so Streets of Rage 3 will switch over to the Japanese version).

Its a fairly easy mod to do yourself, ive done a fair few, now im down to a single switch mod

 

[Lettuce]

What a thread.

Splatterhouse 2 is the best Megadrive game.

There's a place in the UK that will mod the Megadrive for 60hz with a language switch (so Streets of Rage 3 will switch over to the Japanese version).

Its a fairly easy mod to do yourself, ive done a fair few, now im down to a single switch mod

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Just got my XCAPTURE-1 in the mail and I'm tinkering with settings while also testing out the Genesis through RGB for the first time. Man, this thing has never looked so good. The latency on the card is good enough to play straight from the output feed for the most part, too.

I'd like to get some sample videos of this thing with Genesis RGB and Dreamcast VGA uploaded sometime soon. Anyone know what the go-to lossless AVI codecs are these days?

 

[Beckx]

Does anyone use controller extension cables & if so, any particular ones you'd recommend?

 

[HolyCheck]

This just arrived in the mail! I'm so excited and can't wait til the weekend to play

 

[Shadow Hog]

The Aquabats?

 

[Diablohead]

This just arrived in the mail! I'm so excited and can't wait til the weekend to play

I forgot all about this game! rush of good memories seeing that box art again.

 

[IrishNinja]

had no idea james pond got another moment in the sun

The Aquabats?

friday was pizza day, the best day of the week

 

[HolyCheck]

had no idea james pond got another moment in the sun



friday was pizza day, the best day of the week

Hahaha my only memory of him growing up is this game! I've never played the others.