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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe

Shane

Member
Does anyone use the Mega Everdrive flashcart for translations/betas/save states? Seems like a good investment as carts start to die (Sonic 3 saves, for example).


This just arrived in the mail! I'm so excited and can't wait til the weekend to play :D

This is solid fun with friends. Good old finger blister creator.
 

Slermy

Member
Does anyone use the Mega Everdrive flashcart for translations/betas/save states? Seems like a good investment as carts start to die (Sonic 3 saves, for example).




This is solid fun with friends. Good old finger blister creator.

The Aquatic Games is one of my few loose carts. I tried it once and thought it was terrible. Perhaps I should give it another shot?
 
I have the first James Pond game CIB, and i don't really understand the appeal. I mean, yeah, puns. I do like that each level has a different thing going on in it, but it just seems boring and repetitive.

Also, i'm probably about to get the best Genesis Lot of my life, and well i don't wanna say how much it cost me, its still a hell of a price for a hell of a lot.
 

Lettuce

Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XThqpOZcsx8

I used a Genesis w/ RGB cable for the first test run of my new capture card. Other than Youtube butchering the frame rate (maybe I should just interpolate everything to 30fps beforehand?), it looks pretty nice.

I think I'll try streaming with it on Sunday if I have time.

Got the same capture unit as you. What program are you using Amarec? Is the aspect ratio slightly off in that video?. Not sure what would be needed to correct that as i know YT does some strange stuff to aspect ratio. What did you use to encoded the video?

I used Arcade Forge's Sync Strike to hook my scart consoles up to the Micomsoft, http://arcadeforge.net/Scaler-and-Strike-Devices/Sync-Strike::15.html

Not sure how you've got yours hooked up?
 

Shane

Member
The Aquatic Games is one of my few loose carts. I tried it once and thought it was terrible. Perhaps I should give it another shot?

Did you play it alone or with friends? These games only work with a local competitive edge. Though nothing beats Track'n'Field on the PS1 for that.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Got the same capture unit as you. What program are you using Amarec? Is the aspect ratio slightly off in that video?. Not sure what would be needed to correct that as i know YT does some strange stuff to aspect ratio. What did you use to encoded the video?

I used Arcade Forge's Sync Strike to hook my scart consoles up to the Micomsoft, http://arcadeforge.net/Scaler-and-Strike-Devices/Sync-Strike::15.html

Not sure how you've got yours hooked up?
Most of this is in the video description. I'm using VirtualDub for capture and encoding. It took a little bit of tweaking to fix frame drops and audio desync but it seems to be working OK now.
 

xemumanic

Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XThqpOZcsx8

I used a Genesis w/ RGB cable for the first test run of my new capture card. Other than Youtube butchering the frame rate (maybe I should just interpolate everything to 30fps beforehand?), it looks pretty nice.

I think I'll try streaming with it on Sunday if I have time.

Shiiiiiiyyyt boy, I didn't know you had a YouTube channel.
Are you on Twitch?
EDIT: Nevermind, I found you.

The captures look great. Additionally, may I make a request?
 

TEXAN

Banned
New Genesis coming soon?

Famitsu concludes the interview by asking Ishikawa what kind of business he’s been involved in lately. “I’m currently doing my best at Sega’s N Pro research and development section, where we are currently working on arcade games and new products. The ‘N’ stands for ‘New’ and ‘Next’ so I’d like to be able to deliver some news regarding the Sega Genesis in the near future.”

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/1...e-companys-past-consoles/#4RHZlMvkqwqZV0gY.99
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
If you can capture either Thunder Force III, IV, or MUSHA, I'd like to see just how good they look through the XCAPTURE-1.
I don't have any of those games. D:

My retro collection is actually pretty modest (in number anyway, not necessarily in quality). I actually haven't had my Genesis hooked up in ages because I've just been using computer monitors that lack TV inputs for years now, so I haven't been looking to acquire many games lately. Fortunately the XCAPTURE has low enough latency to play from directly, so I might get back on the grind in the near future.
 
Back in the day Youtube supported 60fps for 144p uploads. I remember Tain posting some SF3 replays with 60fps playback on youtube and me calling hax.
 
I love the Sega Genesis for just about all the reasons Jeff from Giantbomb does. That very distinguishable "Genesis sound" kind of fit with the whole early 90's vibe. I know it is technically a worse soundchip probably than the SNES, but like others said, going from the NES to the Genesis was like night and day, it really did feel like the next step.

Plus, I feel that the Genesis had all the weird but awesome game library where Nintendo had the timeless tired and true classics library.

Sports games tended to be better on the genesis as well, ect. Plus that gamegear, soooo awesome! Sure you had to invest in 3rd party rechargable battery packs, but for 1991 or whenever that thing came out, it felt like I was taking the genesis on the go compared to the gameboy.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I am not a crazy Sega fanboy, I love Nintendo. I eventually got a SNES during that time period (my mom thought the genesis was for grown ups from another parent of a friend like 2-3 years after me having it, one day I got home from school and found an SNES hooked up where my Genesis used to be... After wanting my mom to return the SNES and replace the missing genesis for like 6 months, I ended up with both consoles which wasn't a bad deal at all for a kid in grade school! Too bad I got the SNES like a couple years after it came out.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I know it is technically a worse soundchip probably than the SNES
I can't even agree with this. I used to just defer to others on this subject in the past, but the more SNES games I actually started picking up and playing in later years, the more I felt that you have to be really beholden to nostalgia to have any affinity for the instrumentation of a lot of SNES tracks. There are always exceptional examples though, and I could come up with a decent list of soundtracks that I felt lived up to the hype, but really, the SNES soundchip sounds like a 1st-gen MIDI synthesizer from a day when that was impressive enough all on its own. It almost always feels like it's trying to imitate something that it isn't. I never got that vibe from the NES or Genesis; they don't sound like relics in the same way the SNES does to me.

If you actually look up the tech specifications for all the consoles, I think it would be difficult to conclude that one is "better" than the other when it comes to how they generate music. The processes are just too different to really be an apples-to-apples comparison. It's a different case for video: you can go mostly by the specs (# of colors, hardware sprite scaling, etc.) and walk away with some pretty concrete conclusions, but it just doesn't work the same for sound.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
So what are the best methods for cleaning the contacts on a Genesis cartridge slot and game cartridges? Lately I've been having to remove and re-insert games into the console several times before they boot correctly.
 

Ramune

Member
So what are the best methods for cleaning the contacts on a Genesis cartridge slot and game cartridges? Lately I've been having to remove and re-insert games into the console several times before they boot correctly.

Yeah, that's happening to my unit too! Then again, it's been sitting in a box neglected for about 10 years now. I'll check out that retrorgb guide for sure!
 
N

Noray

Unconfirmed Member
Proper Genesis soundtracks sound way better than any other 16-bit tracks. Castlevania Bloodlines and Streets of Rage 2 are my go-to examples. Sonic games are good too, among others. Just because some people didn't know how to use it doesn't mean it sucked.
 

Sapiens

Member
This is a circle jerk comment, but, a bad SNES soundtrack is just as bad as a shittyMD soundtrack.

I love the way MD sounds. So much to appreciate there. It's raw and unforgiving to those programmers who did not use it well.
 

HolyCheck

I want a tag give me a tag
So me and a friend tried to play james pond games thingy last night.

OH BOY.

it's fucking hard.

Of all the events (about 8?) i qualified for ONE. he qualified for zero.

most of them we spent half of the time working out what to do.. but even then when we had the controls down, we had no idea what to actually do lol.

I suppose we could have read the instruction manual.. but I doubt i did that as a kid, and I worked it out then lol :(
 

Teknoman

Member
I wouldnt say they sound better. They are awesome and unique...but honestly i've got a soft spot for both SNES and Genesis specialties.

That being said, I really like Sol Deace genesis soundtrack over the CD soundtrack:

First mission
Cilius Moon


Throw in a subwoofer, and ohhhh man.

EDIT: It seems like Tommy is the only western composer that knew how to use the Genesis sound capabilities properly.

Case in point: Use your Head
 

Dave Long

Banned
Picked up McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure this weekend. $15 complete. Finally! The only Treasure game save the imports that I didn't own (though I had finished it on a rental years ago...).
 

Noahd41

Neo Member
I ordered Strider and Altered Beast today. Both complete. (also got Super Metroid and FFIII but this isn't the thread for it) however, my retro collection is pretty much to a point where I'm happy with it. I can't think of many other games I'm looking for except the grails.
 
Oh the glorious hours I put into Madden 92
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EDIT: It seems like Tommy is the only western composer that knew how to use the Genesis sound capabilities properly.

Case in point: Use your Head
No way! Other western musicians were totally good at it, too. Matt Furniss, Alister Brimble, Howard Drossin, Chris Huelsbeck, Jesper friggin' Kyd, and although the game he did work for never came out, Tim Follin.

I will admit, though, it does appear to skew heavily in favor of Europeans... but still, to say that Tommy Tallarico was the only good western musician who worked with the YM2612 is just plain wrong.
 

IrishNinja

Member
Picked up McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure this weekend. $15 complete. Finally! The only Treasure game save the imports that I didn't own (though I had finished it on a rental years ago...).

oh man, got that one in a lot & thought it was a throwaway, booted up the trippiest game in a while there...i gotta get back to it & see what the later levels are like, made sense when i saw Treasure on the box though!
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
No way! Other western musicians were totally good at it, too. Matt Furniss, Alister Brimble, Howard Drossin, Chris Huelsbeck, Jesper friggin' Kyd, and although the game he did work for never came out, Tim Follin.

I will admit, though, it does appear to skew heavily in favor of Europeans... but still, to say that Tommy Tallarico was the only good western musician who worked with the YM2612 is just plain wrong.

Don't forget Rob Hubbard!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9313JkkD6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnkXaLmYG34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzVBPFdzMo
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I'm just about done with the Air Castle in Phantasy Star IV.

Holy shit. I had no idea the game was this good. I dabbled in it a few years ago, to about where I am now, but don't remember much, so it feels like a fresh playthough. The leap from PS II to this is crazy.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
...right?! at just under $100 it's still the single most expensive game ive bought, and it was worth every penny.

I had a chance to buy that back in the genesis days for 85 bucks new. Thought it was too expensive at the time. I have regretted it for decades now.
 
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