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[Elios83]

Nintendo did.

Keep dreaming.
Nintendo lost after the Gamecube gen, well before Microsoft becoming a third party publisher.
They carved their own market not in direct competition with Sony, a market based on outdated hardware, gimmicks, poor third party support and a total reliance of their own traditional first party titles.
They also had to give up on dedicated handheld consoles and retreat on a single hybrid device.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Keep dreaming.
Nintendo lost after the Gamecube gen, well before Microsoft becoming a third party publisher.
They carved their own market not in direct competition with Sony, a market based on outdated hardware, gimmicks, poor third party support and a total reliance of their own traditional first party titles.
They also had to give up on dedicated handheld consoles and retreat on a single hybrid device.

They also released the soon to be best selling gaming hardware of all time during this transitional period you mention, so they seem aight.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

They also released the soon to be best selling gaming hardware of all time during this transitional period you mention, so they seem aight.

Now that I agree with! They found what works for them and that's a great thing! A healthy Nintendo/PlayStation combo is fantastic for gaming!

 

[Honey Bunny]

I'm seeing a fair few new Nintendo fans round these parts lately, welcome!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Congrats to the shareholders.

 

[Elios83]

They also released the soon to be best selling gaming hardware of all time during this transitional period you mention, so they seem aight.

Absolutely but not in direct competition with Sony.
They have been smart (mostly....Wii U and 3DS were failed bets) at cultivating their own garden based on gimmicks, cheap outdated hardware and first party games but Nintendo left the console war, defeated, after the Gamecube.

 

[Hero_Select]

Absolutely but not in direct competition with Sony.
They have been smart (mostly....Wii U and 3DS were failed bets) at cultivating their own garden based on gimmicks, cheap outdated hardware and first party games but Nintendo left the console war, defeated, after the Gamecube.

You're trying too hard.

Some people just cant handle their fanboybox being outsold by the Switch lmao

 

[Calverz]

Nintendo pivoted. Sony won the traditional console war.

 

[Thief1987]

You're trying too hard.

Some people just cant handle their fanboybox being outsold by the Switch lmao

Saying someone who can't handle the basic truth

 

[HeWhoWalks]

stupid Britney gif

Is Nintendo a legit competitor to Sony if Microsoft exits hardware? Is the Switch the same type of device as the Wii U?

 

[Hero_Select]

Saying someone who can't handle the basic truth

Which truth? The hybrid console outselling the dvd player?

 

[Radical_3d]

A Corolla has went from 22.500€ to 33.000€ here in a matter of 4 years or so. No wonder they are drowning in cash.

 

[PropellerEar]

Congrats to the shareholders.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Sony already won the console war 3 gens ago.

How far down the list do you have to go to find an Xbox console?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

How far down the list do you have to go to find an Xbox console?

PS1 was 102.4m, Wii: 101.63m, PS3: 87.4m, and then the 360 at the last recorded total of 85.7 million. So, down four more places.

 

[Forsete]

Its impressive. I remember all the "news" during the PS3 era of them going bankrupt.

 

[Gambit2483]

The fact that Nintendo is 90% ONLY videogames is more impressive imo

 

[Lionel Richie]

Absolutely but not in direct competition with Sony.
They have been smart (mostly....Wii U and 3DS were failed bets) at cultivating their own garden based on gimmicks, cheap outdated hardware and first party games but Nintendo left the console war, defeated, after the Gamecube.

How did they leave the console war if they're handily winning it?

 

[UltimaKilo]

Is this really the state of the Japanese economy? Sony is their second largest company at under 149.5 billion?

 

[thismeinteil]

Which truth? The hybrid console outselling the dvd player?

You do realize that the PS2 has a higher attach rate than the Switch right? If it was just being bought as a DVD player, wouldn't the attach rate be extremely low?

The truth is, the DVD market didn't push the PS2. The PS2 pushed the DVD market. People bought it as a gaming console first, but picked up DVDs to play on it, too.

In other words, your argument is shit.

 

[Bernardougf]

Saying that the switch is a direct competition to Playstation is like saying the Iphone is competition... and if thats the case than Iphone has a couple billions sold in advantage so you are fighting for second place at most.

Both switch/Playstation are very successful products with different objectives and a different target audience with some overlap (since this happen with any product in the same segment).

 

[Fake]

Thank god I not a shareholder.

 

[Loomy]

Only 105 places behind Microsoft globally.

Not even in the same tier. There's no point comparing them. But considering the state Sony was in just over 10 years ago, this is amazing.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Just a side-note in this (a bit dumb thanks to Nintendo fanboys) discussion: Sony beaten Samsung in image sensor business and actually gained share after Samsung has entered the market which is even more embarrassing than Microsoft and Xbox.

Plus with the rise of Sony Mobility alliance with Honda, Toyota should be a little bit scared.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Is this really the state of the Japanese economy? Sony is their second largest company at under 149.5 billion?

Why is this surprising? It’s a much smaller country, and stock valuations are much higher in the US

At one point, Japanese stocks had insane valuations. Valuation is a fickle beast, it comes and goes

 

[zedinen]

Microsoft is firing on all cylinders for next-gen console launch (Sep 20)

Microsoft completes ZeniMax acquisition (Mar 21)

Sony reportedly making even fewer PS5s due to component shortage (Nov 21)

Microsoft's Activision deal wipes $20 billion off Sony's market value in a day (Jan 22)

"The deal that will change the industry forever": Analysts on Microsoft's Activision acquisition (Jan 22)

Analyst Predicts PlayStation Won’t Exist in 10 Years (Mar 22)

Nadella: Xbox Series X|S Remains the Fastest-Selling Xbox Console Ever (Oct 22)

Microsoft compares Sony to Blockbuster (Dec 22)

The PS5 Has Outsold The Xbox Series X|S 3 To 1 In 2023 (Dec 23)

Xbox-exclusives Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves officially coming to PS5 (Feb 24)

Xbox to Put PS5 Logos in Future Showcases, Says Phil Spencer (Feb 25)

Sony raises profit outlook on strong games performance (Feb 25)

Sony shares soar as games strength boosts investor confidence (Feb 25)

G&NS operating income surged by (YoY):

Mar (+172%)

Jun (+33%)

Sep (+183%)

Dec (+37%)



"Stable earnings growth going forward"

"New facility to repurchase a maximum of 50 Billion Yen"

 

[twilo99]

Only 105 places behind Microsoft globally.

Sony is a bit more expensive than Activision

 

[awwr999999]

Only 105 places behind Microsoft globally.

When it comes to "Most Hated Brands" MS takes the prize.
Sony's among the most beloved brands in the USA.

 

[UltimaKilo]

Why is this surprising? It’s a much smaller country, and stock valuations are much higher in the US

At one point, Japanese stocks had insane valuations. Valuation is a fickle beast, it comes and goes

Because I had no idea that the Japanese market had shrunk so much, compared to where it was 20-25 years ago. Looks like the population and GDP have shrunk significantly since the early 2000s.

 

[Mattyp]

Why is this surprising? It’s a much smaller country, and stock valuations are much higher in the US

At one point, Japanese stocks had insane valuations. Valuation is a fickle beast, it comes and goes

In size sure but the population is huge, the Japanese economy is completely cooked and only getting worse with underlying issues I’m not sure how they’ll solve.

Hopefully Sony is one day worth what it was a few decades ago, for all those still holdin

 

[Silver Wattle]

It looks like their attempt at making cars is going to flop, look at how ugly this overpriced thing is:

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

I bought a metric fucktonne of Sony shares during the crash of their share price in the PS3 era, shortly after the PSN hack.

Had I held onto them all to now, I'd have been a multi-millionaire.

....FUCK!!

 

[Woopah]

If the Switch wasn't portable, it would have been as dead as the Wii-U.

It still would have sold way better than the Wii U because it had much stronger software lineup.

Which says a lot about sony that they haven't been able to replicate that since. it's why they magically found some more ps2's down the back of the couch so they could keep this record as it's all they have.

That's not what happened at all. Sony has known about those PS2 sales for over a decade.

Keep dreaming.
Nintendo lost after the Gamecube gen, well before Microsoft becoming a third party publisher.
They carved their own market not in direct competition with Sony, a market based on outdated hardware, gimmicks, poor third party support and a total reliance of their own traditional first party titles.
They also had to give up on dedicated handheld consoles and retreat on a single hybrid device.

How is it retreat when they are selling products to the same audience as the Wii and 3DS? The Switch sells to the same audience and market they were targeting before and isn't a "retreat" from anything.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Because I had no idea that the Japanese market had shrunk so much, compared to where it was 20-25 years ago. Looks like the population and GDP have shrunk significantly since the early 2000s.

Stocks in Japan were in a massive bubble that’s taken thirty years to unwind