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Television Displays and Technology Thread: This is a fantasy based on OLED
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Deputy Moonman
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Good tv, but you're going to pay a boatload for it. Samsung remains the most expensive brand in tv's right now imo. You either pay the same amount or possibly a little less for oled, which is undeniably better than led, or, most people are likely to pay for a cheaper led tv from Sony or the budget tv's that vizio and tcl offer.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I’ve already started saving up for getting an OLED on Black Friday.
Last year they dropped to about $1500 for a 55”
I am hoping some reach the $1000 price point.
Last year they dropped to about $1500 for a 55”
I am hoping some reach the $1000 price point.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Great TV but about $500 more than comparable Sony and no Dolby Vision make Samsung a no buy for me.
TheBoss1
Member
Not a huge fan of Samsung TVs but that interpolation feature might be underrated if it performs like I think it should.
TLZ
Banned
20ms with interpolation? Wow.
Insane Metal
Member
Around 15. And in 1080p120 it goes as low as 10ms. Impressive.
Deputy Moonman
Member
If the price on 65" oleds would come down into the $1500 price range or less that would be nice. I have a 50" plasma from 2011 and dont want to buy a new tv unless it is at least 65" or bigger. 75" would be even better but pricing yikes. I was so tempted to get a 2017 vizio m75 because it was sub $2000, but i just cant be spending that much money on a tv rght now. Sad face.
Rodolfo Brito
Member
Help me out here, Gaffers.
I bought a LG UJ6300, an entry level 4K TV, but I can't find anything on the internet regarding playing 4K videos/movies from flash drives.
Do you guys recommend some flash drive model that can handle the transfer speed required?
Do you know if this model can buffer content from a 3mbs flash drive and play it normally?
I bought a LG UJ6300, an entry level 4K TV, but I can't find anything on the internet regarding playing 4K videos/movies from flash drives.
Do you guys recommend some flash drive model that can handle the transfer speed required?
Do you know if this model can buffer content from a 3mbs flash drive and play it normally?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Rodolfo Brito
Member
Welp, here in Brazil, most of the 4K TVs are really expensive, so I opted for an entry model to save some money. Even being garbage, it is at a good value and I don't have a need for something better than this, at the moment.
And, coming from where I was, this TV is really good, IMO.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
6300 is not "garbage." It's a good entry model just like you said.
I don't think there's any variance on what OS their smart TVs have from country to country, so I'm guessing you're running web os?
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Is that the one with the fake 4k? Or am I thinking of something else? https://forums.redflagdeals.com/folks-beware-fake-4k-lg-tvs-2066358/
Insane Metal
Member
Yup. RGBW and all that.
Rodolfo Brito
Member
Yes. WebOS 3.5. I really liked this OS. Is really snappy compared to my brother in law's Samsung Smart TV. I just don't know if I need to buy a high speed flash drive to play 4K videos or if a regular Sandisk Cruzer Blade 64Gb can handle the job.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Ive only ever used usb 2.0 on my oled and never had issues. Are you able to play anything from a drive?
llien
Banned
I have W7 and struggle with feeding it anything over USB (plain old exfat, plain old mp4 from my cam).
Streaming over network works great though (including UPNP, I can easily send streams and comfortably control it with TV remote)
What filesystem/file types do you use?
Rodolfo Brito
Member
Streaming 4K content is out of the question in my house because my internet speed is just 15Mbps.
About the files... well, I download some movies from, let's say, not legal sources... and, most of the releases have something like 50GB size.
Do you guys think I should buy one thos 100MBps flash drives, or a regular Sandisk Cruzer Blade can do the trick?
About the files... well, I download some movies from, let's say, not legal sources... and, most of the releases have something like 50GB size.
Do you guys think I should buy one thos 100MBps flash drives, or a regular Sandisk Cruzer Blade can do the trick?
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llien
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Why flash? Why not traditional (USB3) HDD?
Rodolfo Brito
Member
Because I just have one that I've been using on my Wii U and I don´t want to buy another one. Besides, it is most likey for me to download the movies using my work machine, so, it need to be easy to transport.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
When you say struggle does it not recognize the device or it streams but I'd choppy?
llien
Banned
It says something along the lines of "what the hell is this shit, do you want me to format it?"
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Did you try NTFS vs FAT. All if my drives are NTFS.
llien
Banned
Tried only exfat. Will re-try with ntfs.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
With Memorial Day and Fathers Day coming up I am really hoping that the LG B7A will get a decent price drop ($1000-$1200). I really want an OLED.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Anyone got any predictions for Memorial Day for OLED?
GreatnessRD
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I finally bought me a 4K TV! I got the '55 TCL 6 series. I booted it up, but now I've become confused. I turned on the Deep Color Gamut on PS4 and then I tried to turn on HDR. I click it, and it says my TV doesn't support HDR. What in the blue hell is going on here?! I thought all the TCL Models ran the Dolby Vison HDR10 or something? I also bought a Rocketfish HDMI cable that says its 4K and HDR compatible. Any ideas? Or did I finesse myself? I also didn't find a 'game mode' setting on the TV either. Says "Vivid", "Movie" and "Normal". Best Buy about to get these hands!
GreatnessRD
Member
Won't let me edit, but I figured out the problem. Thanks, rtings!
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Was it the “set HDMI to 2.0” issue?
GreatnessRD
Member
Yeah, that was the issue. TV is pretty beast mode. Sound quality really is garbage though like the rating says. I'll definitely be looking into a sound bar tomorrow. Or today rather.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I’ve had two 4K TVs (TCL P605 and Sony 900F) and I am puzzled why the default setting for HDMI 2.0 is off.
As for sound quality, TVs almost never have excellent sound and the ones that do (LG E7) make you pay a much bigger premium than the extra cost of a better sound bar.
I’m okay with this because I want every dollar put into the build of TV to go towards the best possible picture.
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Cranberrys
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I think the sound is a big problem on modern TV's. I've got a Sony ZD9, it's a great TV and pricey. Full retail price was 4499€, I paid mine 3599 during a sale. At that price, the sound is still garbage. My first HDTV was a Sony 40W2000 in 2006 and the sound, for a TV set, was really good. So yeah I bought a sound bar but I dream of a TV with a good enough sound and it baffles me that a 4500€ TV can't produce a sound as good as a simple JBL Boost TV soundbar. It's not that complicated.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Because getting the sound youre asking for would require changing the design of the TV to accomodate deeper speakers. I bet you anything that most consumers prefer best picture.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Ah this subject again.
For the total experience picture = 50% sound is 50%
Most people think immersive sound is from a soundbar. No it can produce nice tricks. But not the best.
Try a 5.1 7.2 or dolby atmos set.
And be amazed.
Bladerunner 2049 blew my mind in hdr 4k dolby atmos.
For the total experience picture = 50% sound is 50%
Most people think immersive sound is from a soundbar. No it can produce nice tricks. But not the best.
Try a 5.1 7.2 or dolby atmos set.
And be amazed.
Bladerunner 2049 blew my mind in hdr 4k dolby atmos.
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Cranberrys
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I totally agree but my current living room can't withstand a Dolby Atmos setup. I Don't want speakers everywhere. I like having few furnitures in my living space. So I use a soundbar and When my wife and I want total immersion, we use a pair of Sony HW-700DS headphones and it's quite great actually. One day, when I get a dedicated room, then yeah I will invest in a proper audio setup.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
yep i tried airpods with dolby atmos on netflix in windows 10. And if you don't have the space this is the bees knees.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Cool story:
On Saturday I went to Best Buy and got the Sony 55" X900F.
Paid $1299 for it. Got it set up and played with it a bit. Beautiful TV but not quite the upgrade over my TCL P605 that I was hoping for.
Yesterday Dell.com puts the LG 55” B7A on sale for $1299. I end up returning the 900F and got B.B. to price match the LG B7A. Initially I was somewhat apprehensive, but thinking it through going to OLED was really the only true upgrade over my TCL TV.
Epilogue:
I am now the proud owner of an OLED.
Let me just say it is: Wow! It's so weird not seeing the blooming produced by local dimming and screen uniformity. I am now addicted to this and can honestly say OLED produces one of the most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing images you will ever see.
On Saturday I went to Best Buy and got the Sony 55" X900F.
Paid $1299 for it. Got it set up and played with it a bit. Beautiful TV but not quite the upgrade over my TCL P605 that I was hoping for.
Yesterday Dell.com puts the LG 55” B7A on sale for $1299. I end up returning the 900F and got B.B. to price match the LG B7A. Initially I was somewhat apprehensive, but thinking it through going to OLED was really the only true upgrade over my TCL TV.
Epilogue:
I am now the proud owner of an OLED.
Let me just say it is: Wow! It's so weird not seeing the blooming produced by local dimming and screen uniformity. I am now addicted to this and can honestly say OLED produces one of the most beautiful and aesthetically pleasing images you will ever see.
Bluecondor
Member
I just got a 49" Samsung QLED for $800 at Best Buy. I also just upgraded to the PS4 Pro. Wow - God of War looks really impressive with the maxed out video settings.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I saw those deals! The 65" was selling for $1899 plus a $300 dollar gift card. That's insane for a 65" oled. Alas, i'm poor and can't afford to buy a tv right now lol.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I have been gaming on an OLED (55" LG B7A) right now for over a week and all I can say is wow. Just wow.
If any of you are in the market for a new TV, strongly consider saving a little more and getting an OLED.
Right now the OLED B7As are still available and if Memorial Day is any indication, they could get dropped to under $1200 for Fathers Day.
They are worth it.
If any of you are in the market for a new TV, strongly consider saving a little more and getting an OLED.
Right now the OLED B7As are still available and if Memorial Day is any indication, they could get dropped to under $1200 for Fathers Day.
They are worth it.
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DemonCleaner
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when are my HDMI2.1 TVs coming? im getting kinda annoyed by now .
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
People talking about HDMI 2.1 never ceases to amaze me. We are a LONG way off before having any content remotely close to taking advantage of what HDMI 2.1 provides.
HDMI 2.1 should not be holding anyone back from buying an HDTV right now.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
120 fps 4k and hdmi arc with atmos hdr hlg etc is super close my friend
Deputy Moonman
Member
They do. rtings.com just reviewed the Q6FN (2018 model), which is one of their lower tier tv's, and it can do variable refresh rate.
Im beginning to think that rtings.com has a bias toward samsung tv's because they've already reviewed the Q6FN, Q7FN, Q8FN, and Q9FN tv's for 2018. TCL's R617, compared to Samsung's Q6FN has higher peak brightness, better local dimming. Samsung's Q6FN has a slightly better color gamut and volume, but slightly worse color gradient. rtings gives the R617 a better score for movies and hd movies, but then for 4K content they give the samsung a 10 and the TCL a 9.5?? At the end of the Q6FN review, where rtings compares it to other tv's, they include sony's 900e from last year, this year's Q8FN tv and the R617. In rtings' review of the R617 they compare it to garbage tier tv's. So I dont know what's up with that. And they reviewed the 55" version of the R617, which has 24 fewer dimming zones than the 65". So it feels like they're purposely trying to lessen how amazing the R617 is to me. Im probably reading too much into it though. They do say that for most people the R617 is a better tv than the Q6FN, unless the majority of the content watched is sports and tv shows, since the R617 does have some uniformity issues.
Here's a link to the comparison. You can pick any two tv's that rtings.com has reviewed:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/samsung-q6fn-vs-tcl-r617/623/613#usage*4854!threshold*0.1
Insane Metal
Member
Samsung's 2018 lineup is pretty good. Q9FN and Q8FN are FALD and they're great sets, Q7FN and Q6FN are simpler overall but still very good tvs. All of them have 120Hz freesync support which is great.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
120 Hz 4k? Right. Yeah, we're so close to that.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
They are great TVs, but no Dolby Vision and $1000 more than an equivalent Sony model and at that price an OLED is a much much better value.
Samsung has arguably taken LED close to as far as it can go, but they have priced them so high there is always a better option.
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