S0ULZB0URNE
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So this is a negative PC thread?
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Fahdis
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Guilty_AI
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I personally like the mods as in games and extras which breathe new life into old games.
For example
The Mad Draklor
Member
Which reminds me, Duckstation is one heck of a PS1 emulator.
Just get one of these. It has all the games you need and no bs.
Synless
Member
Oh dude, I was just going over the bare ;-) minimum. All the other shit you can do elevates it to god tier.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Great post. Yes, the beauty of PC is how open it is; but there's a downside to that freedom in that there are many more ways something can go wrong. Now for those with patience and a little technical know-how, there are very few problems that can't be managed. Be it your computer not posting or mod conflicts causing a game to CTD, each issue becomes something of a fun little exercise with a satisfying payoff.
But if you don't care for that sort of thing, if you don't want to experience any hassle when it comes to enjoying your time off with some gaming - which is perfectly reasonable - then consoles will always be there as a more suitable option. That's why I've always thought the doom-mongering over consoles dying off because of PC ports is extremely silly: by and large, they don't serve the same audience. How many parents are filling a Newegg cart with computer parts for 12-year old Timmy to assemble? How many working-age adults actually prefer to relax at home by sitting at a PC desk after a long day at the office? How many people would realistically give up the convenience and lower starting cost of consoles just because more games got ported to PC?
Buggy Loop
Member
Mod community is insane
It's keeping old classics up to date and playable
Richards Burn Rally kept updated with new maps, new cars and features such as triple monitors, sim rig outputs and VR
Old Falcon 4 modded to hell and back to even include VR
And so many others.
HoodWinked
Member
It's only by chance that the PC games industry happened to coalesce around a benevolent monopoly.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Hearing these stories is the sort of stuff that keeps me away from PC gaming. PC gamers will always say it's easy, hassle-free. But too many others talk about the hassles involved. I'm not a tech-oriented guy, and even upgrading my phone gives me a headache. I don't want to deal with any technical hassles at all, so I stay away. I remain a console peasant.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
Sigh... Das ist nicht die Antwort, die ich hören wollte.
bender
What time is it?
At least you are happy and happiness is what this hobby is all about.
Guilty_AI
Member
My advice for cases like this, if you're interested, is to start off with low-mid range or even general use PC builds, perhaps even some computer you already have laying at home. It's already enough to at least play some games that don't make it to consoles.
marquimvfs
Member
About what?
marquimvfs
Member
That's why I don't game on pc nowadays. Sad but true.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Why should I change my mattress to a desk???
ResilientBanana
Member
Those seem like carefully hand picked games to make a thread about. In the past 20-30 years of pc gaming, rarely do I have issues. It’s not that hard. Maybe gain a skill.
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MonkeyClaw36
Banned
A 3rd gen i9 with a 3090? Holy bottleneck Batman!
That's because your argument is stupid.
It's not that there"s no issues, is that most issues have fixes on pcgamingwiki.
It is what you get for having infinite backlog compatibility.
Also it's 100% the user's fault.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
I never experience those issues lol I just buy a game, download it, whenever I want to play it turn the computer on, TV on, get my controller, play until I'm done and turn the PC off with the controller, really where do you all get these weird issues from? Are you all making sure you're not playing games early 7th gen and earlier?
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
It isn't that simple.
It has to do with knowledge of hardware, finetuning the general setting of your rig etc, etc.
Lots of people buy a pre built pc at say Walmart or something. You think it'll be as stable and versatile as a pc custom built and tuned to perfection?
NOPE! Bloatware, shitty pre defined settings, the lot. 2 hardware identical systems can perform way different. Depends on the knowhow of the user.
I have my PC since februari, tossed out b tier components and tweaked Windows to my tastes.
It outperforms my neighbors prebuilt PC with a 3 gen newer processor and the same graphics card by a HUGE margin.
More knowledge = better optimisation = fewer issues
Simple things like an Antivirus in Game mode or a lenient profile for your firewall can prevent lots of issues and thats just scratching the surface.
Too high of an OC on cpu, memory or gpu can cause numerous amounts of hangs, lockups etc if not done right.
There are way too many variables in this for you to make such an assumption, sorry.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
Not sure what is up with EA but I've run into BFV issue for year n half now and they've not fixed it. I think it has something to do with the Gamepass and their licences BS.
This was what we repeatedly said to one of our party in helldivers. The only one on a pc, he would repeatedly disconnect, had to run it on shitty visuals just so it wouldn’t bug out when things got heavy, despite a machine that cost way more than a ps5. He was talking about having to dig through forums which told him to remove and fuck around with config files and all sorts of nonsense.
Meanwhile, aside from when the servers were fallling over themselves from too many players, all the rest of the team, just turn on their ps5’s, and within 10 seconds are in the game. And it “just works”
This also seems a common story with practically every major PC release. Shits just a painful broken mess, that often doesn’t even look much better, particularly if you’re sat on a sofa 10ft away from the screen, yet it costs a bucket load and comes with a laundry list of problems.
Consoles, as the years go by, the new games releasing run just as well as the ones released in launch year, and generally look even better. On pc, every year that goes by (at least from when I used to build), as newer games release, each time you need to nudge down the graphics settings bit by bit.
I remember spending £1400 ish to play oblivion on high settings, it got delayed a year and it would only manage medium without being a chugging mess
Zathalus
Member
Are PCs flawless gaming machines that never have any issues? Of course not. Are the hyperbolic statements made on this forum by some blowing things way out of proportion? Of course they are.
Fact is, almost a 150 million people play on Steam, peak active user counts approach 35 million and the far, far, far majority of the people have zero issues. For 99% of PC games all you need to do is click the play button and enjoy the game.
Fact is, almost a 150 million people play on Steam, peak active user counts approach 35 million and the far, far, far majority of the people have zero issues. For 99% of PC games all you need to do is click the play button and enjoy the game.
Esppiral
Member
Many problems in this life are solves with a blow.
KormaChameleon
Member
Or just use Duck station.
Just get one of these. It has all the games you need and no bs.
Skifi28
Member
I don't think anyone claims there are no fixes, it's a matter of having the time and patience. I used to tinker for the sake of it back in the day, but nowadays if something doesn't work out of the box I might not even bother googling it and either refund or play something else instead. Some games are inherently broken and 100% require the user to fix them, but they are being sold on steam without the developer/publisher fixing them or even putting a warning. That's hardly the user's fault. When you buy something being sold as new, you sort of expect it to work.
Randall365
Member
You make your choice - with consoles, the enjoyment is from playing a good game - with PCs it is getting a game running acceptably at a high fps - sometimes after having spent the previous few days upgrading your GPU, PSU, CPU or RAM. Also watching out for melting power cables and software issues.
It feels pretty sweet getting a game to run at 1440p on UW locked at 140fps to be fair.
It feels pretty sweet getting a game to run at 1440p on UW locked at 140fps to be fair.
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Radical_3d
Member
This is why I don’t upgrade my PC and use it exclusively for 4X and other PC generes. Civ VI forever.
hououinkyouma00
Member
So people who are new to platforms aren’t allowed to speak their opinions and frustrations? That’s the exact fucking PCMR bullshit that I can’t stand.
1000%. I’ve also been playing on and building PCs since the late 90s when I was barely in school and I still have frustrations and get annoyed with PC gaming.
You can’t possibly say anything bad about PC without some PCMR dipshit speaking up about how your experience is wrong. It’s fucking infuriating.
Now, absolutely some people do say some bullshit about PC and we are all sick of the basic I don’t want to sit at a desk comment but my point still stands. PCMR are some of the most insecure little fucks on the internet to the point where sometimes I want to drop the platform but that would be fucking stupid and I like playing on PC.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
does this work with bf1
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Like a mouse and keyboard isn't cheap and there isn't 850 different unique ways of getting free windows
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
PC gaming is for people who fall victim to their neurosis.
If comparison is the thief of joy, then PC gamers are the most oppressed demographic in the industry. We console players must pity them.
If comparison is the thief of joy, then PC gamers are the most oppressed demographic in the industry. We console players must pity them.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Skifi28
Member
It reminded me of this good old thread I made once to vent:
PC gaming can really be infuriating.....
I've been playing mostly on PS5/Switch these past few months, but I always come back for some sweet PC gaming and this was the weekend to do so and catch up on some older games from my backlog. Boy, did this not go as planned: Alice 2: Madness Returns Couldn't even get past the activation...
It was a bad idea as some people got really defensive. Some of the replies are absolutely hilarious, like being accused of having an agenda or being called a retard for having issues that are well documented. I was kinda done with seirously discussing PC on GAF after that.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's not about saying something bad, it's about the hyperbolic bullshit. Imagine PC guys creating a tread about every console game stuck with shitty 30- fps, shitty resolution, shitty controls, shitty non existent retro compatibility that you can't do anything to fix. On PC things that don't work or are limited almost always has a fix.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
SportsFan581
Member
Gaming on PC today is a lot smoother than it used to be, but if you go looking for issues you can still find them LOL. The majority of the time things do "just work" and any extra time invested in comparison to console is just related to getting the settings right for your hardware configuration. I've played some particularly old games on PC and most either work straight away or only need a minor tweak here or there to get going. Most of the issues that exist are fixable on the OS side if Windows started to prioritize long-term compatibility in regards to games.
Guilty_AI
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MonkeyClaw36
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