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[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

Op and some comments here hardly reads like ads at all.

 

[TrebleShot]

Op and some comments here hardly reads like ads at all.

I am paid by Sony in clickthroughs and purchases so please buy one or two pros, unless of course you are a brokie.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I really believe, at least in the case of Cyberpunk, it's the exact opposite.
I struggle to remember a point in time when there's been such a drastic difference in terms of visuals (not talking resolution and framerate, but pure graphics).



Please don't stop at the thumbnail and open the video.

Wouldn't count on a casual who knows nothing about tech/graphics to notice the difference while playing without side by sides, but for that same person there would be probably no difference at all between PS4 Pro and PS5 Pro.

There is a difference for sure, but in some scenes, like the two starting from 1:59, it isn't that big really.
Then again, like I said, a RTX 4090 costs €2000.

We've come to a point where PC enthusiasts have to go to an outlier to validate a €2000 GPU against a €799 console.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

>Cyberpunk has no Pro patch
>Pretends there’s no difference between basic bitch PS5 and a top tier PC
>Argues he isn’t trolling

Yeah.

Except for the fact that if you watch the 2 videos I posted back to back instead, the basic bitch PS5 unpatched game on Pro doesn't look bad against PC at all.

 

[Bojji]

There is a difference for sure, but in some scenes, like the two starting from 1:59, it isn't that big really.
Then again, like I said, a RTX 4090 costs €2000.

We've come to a point where PC enthusiasts have to go to an outlier to validate a €2000 GPU against a €799 console.

Why the fuck you focus so much on 4090? It's not the only GPU on the planet.

You can play cyberpunk with PT on something like 4070ti super for 800$. It's expensive obviously but not 2000$.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Why the fuck you focus so much on 4090? It's not the only GPU on the planet.

You can play cyberpunk with PT on something like 4070ti super for 800$. It's expensive obviously but not 2000$.

Lower cards only decrease the gap even more.

 

[Bojji]

Lower cards only decrease the gap even more.

Visuals remain the same?

Performance is different.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Visuals remain the same?

Performance is different.

Then my point still stands, regardless.

And you're still comparing a €800 GPU to a €799 PS5 Pro.

 

[mdkirby]

I love the above $60K average household income vibes you're giving off

I’m not American, but work with a lot of Americans, and it was my understanding that a household income of 60k would be considered pretty poor and well below average. Is this not the case?

 

[March Climber]

I look forward to feeling every positive emotion you guys are feeling...

...when I buy a Playstation 6.

 

[R6Rider]

I’m not American, but work with a lot of Americans, and it was my understanding that a household income of 60k would be considered pretty poor and well below average. Is this not the case?

Depends entirely on where you live. Where I live $60k a year is pretty good for a single income. Go to a city in my same state and $60k is awful pay.

My rent alone is less than a half of what it is in the city and I have a two bedroom apartment WITH a garage.

 

[Three]

I’m not American, but work with a lot of Americans, and it was my understanding that a household income of 60k would be considered pretty poor and well below average. Is this not the case?

It's a reference to a study that showed PS households have the highest average income. The highest average was PS users at $62,276 and the lowest average income was PC users with $55,707.
It's just a reference to that but the median income of the US is actually $37,000 USD so no that wouldn't be considered particularly below average.

 

[mdkirby]

Depends entirely on where you live. Where I live $60k a year is pretty good for a single income. Go to a city in my same state and $60k is awful pay.

My rent alone is less than a half of what it is in the city and I have a two bedroom apartment WITH a garage.

Ah, fair. Most the Americans I know are in LA, San Diego or DC, so I guess it may be skewing my perception.

 

[TrebleShot]

Most Americans pretend to have more than they do.

 

[mdkirby]

It's a reference to a study that showed PS households have the highest average income. The highest average was PS users at $62,276 and the lowest average income was PC users with $55,707.
It's just a reference to that but the median income of the US is actually $37,000 USD so no that wouldn't be considered particularly below average.

Hahaha yes I remember that thread, I hadn’t picked up on the reference tho

I’d also read it as “household income” which is generally (tho not always) different to individual income.

 

[DirtyBast8rd]

Not interested anymore. Switching to PC made me fall out of love with consoles and the Sony PlayStation and Xbox division corporations make me puke these days. I was really waiting to see if I could resist the Pro as I can easily afford one, but it does nothing for me. Way more exited to switch my 4090 for a 5090.

 

[WhamBamThankYouMaam]

I am paid by Sony in clickthroughs and purchases so please buy one or two pros, unless of course you are a brokie.

Just like mcdonalds employees are paid in burgers and cars salesmen are paid in cars. It makes sense.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Really is a fantastic console. Horizon Forbidden West is the best looking game on the market, and Digital Foundry showed a 4090 with DLSS playing it side by side to PS5 Pro and the PS5 Pro looked just as good.

Glad I can really have the best of both worlds for a much cheaper price than PC with a closed box highly optimized experience (no shader compilation BS, no mouse and keyboard BS, no having to figure out why this game won't boot up BS, no UE5 stuttering non stop BS). For a premium product, PC users really get the shaft because it's anything but elegant. Far from it.

PS5 Pro is basically a nearly perfect 4K60 experience. So anyone complaining before about blurry performance modes will no longer need to worry for the most part.

 

[TintoConCasera]

This thread sure has reignited my enjoyment of this board.

 

[TrebleShot]

Just like mcdonalds employees are paid in burgers and cars salesmen are paid in cars. It makes sense.

Sadly my only reward for posting is brain rot and dribble in response.

 

[TGO]

I'm happy for you, even if I don't see the difference so far.
Hopefully future PS5 Pro Enhancements will use the machine better then looking like a £700 60fps patch and the IQ isn't always better either.

 

[Unknown?]

When you surpass the $300K mark, you start watching your spending like how minimum wage spend their money, I'm not kidding, look how Asmongold and other rich people like Dr. Phil spend their money, it's not a secret.

"We didn't get rich by buying Bentley's."
- Owner of Bentley(probably)

 

[SweetTooth]

I look forward to feeling every positive emotion you guys are feeling...

...when I buy a Playstation 6.

Godspeed man, you will be getting the definitive console experience for that generation!

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Check out Demon's Souls.

 

[Radical_3d]

I don’t miss the old moderation team but for way less than this you were labelled by astroturfing.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

Wait till next year lol you're gonna adore the pro

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Really is a fantastic console. Horizon Forbidden West is the best looking game on the market, and Digital Foundry showed a 4090 with DLSS playing it side by side to PS5 Pro and the PS5 Pro looked just as good.

Glad I can really have the best of both worlds for a much cheaper price than PC with a closed box highly optimized experience (no shader compilation BS, no mouse and keyboard BS, no having to figure out why this game won't boot up BS, no UE5 stuttering non stop BS). For a premium product, PC users really get the shaft because it's anything but elegant. Far from it.

PS5 Pro is basically a nearly perfect 4K60 experience. So anyone complaining before about blurry performance modes will no longer need to worry for the most part.

All Sony needs to do now, is release an OLED Portal.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

All Sony needs to do now, is release an OLED Portal.

I agree, an updated Portal would be nice.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Sure

 

[jm89]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I agree, an updated Portal would be nice.

That's really my main issue rn.

The boost in performance on PS5 Pro makes playing on Portal feel real smooth, especially those 120hz modes.
(Except maybe HFW, Performance > Balanced).

The only thing lacking is OLED with HDR.
Which isn't even my main issue, but the fact that I have to turn off HDR manually on the PS5 system through the console itself before using Portal, otherwise it will render with HDR and colors get all fucked on Portal's screen.
And then you have to turn it back on again when playing on tv. And so on, and so on...

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I'm happy for you, even if I don't see the difference so far.

What games have you played? I feel like every game I've played has a difference (though in fairness, most of them are Sony's games, but still).

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

That's really my main issue rn.

The boost in performance on PS5 Pro makes playing on Portal feel real smooth, especially those 120hz modes.
(Except maybe HFW, Performance > Balanced).

The only thing lacking is OLED with HDR.
Which isn't even my main issue, but the fact that I have to turn off HDR manually on the PS5 system through the console itself before using Portal, otherwise it will render with HDR and colors get all fucked on Portal's screen.
And then you have to turn it back on again when playing on tv. And so on, and so on...

Yeah that is super annoying. I would also want a higher rez screen too. I held off on the portal just because I think it's a little too cheap for my tastes. Would absolutely buy a Portal PRO though

 

[SweetTooth]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

Its really accurate haha

Evilore needs to monitze PS5Pro threads, make it $0.01 a post, all PC brokies will disappear

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yeah that is super annoying. I would also want a higher rez screen too. I held off on the portal just because I think it's a little too cheap for my tastes. Would absolutely buy a Portal PRO though

What's weird, is that the screen-option in PS5 menu settings is inaccessible while in RP on Portal, yet this morning I accidently left the screen menus open before turning on my Portal and I suddenly did have access to the screen menu.
Until I closed down the settings menu and when opening up again, I was locked out of it like usual.

 

[Schmendrick]

I would say the same if a €799 console comes pretty close to a €2000+ GPU + system.

Diminishing returns are real and all I'm saying is that because of it, the gap is getting closer.

I've seen more interesting trolls.

 

[TrebleShot]

That's really my main issue rn.

The boost in performance on PS5 Pro makes playing on Portal feel real smooth, especially those 120hz modes.
(Except maybe HFW, Performance > Balanced).

The only thing lacking is OLED with HDR.
Which isn't even my main issue, but the fact that I have to turn off HDR manually on the PS5 system through the console itself before using Portal, otherwise it will render with HDR and colors get all fucked on Portal's screen.
And then you have to turn it back on again when playing on tv. And so on, and so on...

Ey I dont have to do that on mine it automatically shifts to non hdr.
Biggest issue with Portal is the micro stutter due to the mismatch from portal *60hz to PS5 when streaming 59.9hz.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I've seen more interesting trolls.

And I've seen bigger gaps than console vs PC.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Ey I dont have to do that on mine it automatically shifts to non hdr.

Really? That's weird. Wonder what causes it for me then.

Biggest issue with Portal is the micro stutter due to the mismatch from portal *60hz to PS5 when streaming 59.9hz.

I think I know what you mean, but it doesn't bother me that much.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

 

[TintoConCasera]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

Go. Make another Pro thread, let's see what happens.

 

[March Climber]

Godspeed man, you will be getting the definitive console experience for that generation!

No not for that one, for this one. I bought a PS5 to play most PS4 games 60fps at discounted prices. The same will go for PS6.

 

[OverHeat]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

Cool story bro

 

[HeWhoWalks]

PCMR when ever they see ps5 pro threads.

Shew, more like...

 

[jm89]

Cool story bro

Exhibit A.

 

[OverHeat]

Exhibit A.

Objection

It’s a nice mid range system for a good price.

 

[SweetTooth]

No not for that one, for this one. I bought a PS5 to play most PS4 games 60fps at discounted prices. The same will go for PS6.

Still smart and you will get a definitive console experience unlike going with MS (if they even released anything) or Nintendo with their toys

 

[Zathalus]

Really is a fantastic console. Horizon Forbidden West is the best looking game on the market, and Digital Foundry showed a 4090 with DLSS playing it side by side to PS5 Pro and the PS5 Pro looked just as good.

Glad I can really have the best of both worlds for a much cheaper price than PC with a closed box highly optimized experience (no shader compilation BS, no mouse and keyboard BS, no having to figure out why this game won't boot up BS, no UE5 stuttering non stop BS). For a premium product, PC users really get the shaft because it's anything but elegant. Far from it.

PS5 Pro is basically a nearly perfect 4K60 experience. So anyone complaining before about blurry performance modes will no longer need to worry for the most part.

I’d say being beholden to the whims of a publisher for game updates to simply enjoy the full benefits of new hardware (or even work at all) is way worse then any of that. Want to play Witcher 3 with the next-gen RT feature set? Here’s a stripped down version stuck at 30fps. Want to replay a classic game from 15 years ago? Shit out of luck. How’s those RT reflections in Returnal look on the Pro? Not been updated you say?

Frankly I’d rather deal with shader stutter then any of that nonsense. Even though shader stutter is increasingly becoming a fixed problem on PC. Of the top 100 rated Metacritic games on PC this year, a grand total of one game had bad shader stutter.

And seriously, who tries to spin mouse and keyboard as a negative? Anyone can just use a controller if they want to.

 

[Spiral1407]

So its reignited your love for consoles by doing the exact same thing every other console has been doing? The entire point of a console is ease of use lmao.

This just sounds like someone trying to cope with the £700 hole in their pocket.