Ubisoft stock closed down 7% one day after AC Shadows release
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Kacho
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It dropped 7% after Outlaws released as well.
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Ubisoft Stock Prices Drop Another 7%, Shareholders Concerned
Ubisoft Stock prices have fallen another 7% in just under a week from them reaching a 10-year all time low after Star Wars Outlaws release.
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1 million players after about six hours. But context doesn't matter.
Kotaro
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It dropped 7% after Outlaws released as well.
Ubisoft Stock Prices Drop Another 7%, Shareholders Concerned
Ubisoft Stock prices have fallen another 7% in just under a week from them reaching a 10-year all time low after Star Wars Outlaws release.
yup, and we know how Outlaws sales turned out
diffusionx
Gold Member
You guys gotta stop trying to do analysis on day to day stock prices.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
It's also down 5% YTD, and up about 4% over the last month. It'll probably be up when the market opens back up next week. No one here is qualified to answer why any stock is down 7% from yesterday.
What I do know is that long term investors(not day traders) do not make rash decisions based on a game's performance less than 24 hours after release on a Friday afternoon, so the drop you're seeing is highly unlikely do have anything to do with AC:Shadows.
What I do know is that long term investors(not day traders) do not make rash decisions based on a game's performance less than 24 hours after release on a Friday afternoon, so the drop you're seeing is highly unlikely do have anything to do with AC:Shadows.
Yea but that doesn't matter. One of the big anti-AC Shadows X accounts just tweeted about this so a thread had to be made.
You're wrong. This is 100% Shadows fault and proof the gamers are winning!
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Kotaro
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Yep. They needed a big hit. Monster Hunter Wilds sold 8 million copies in 3 days. AC Shadows has "1 million players"...
Also this talk about splitting up the IP and forming a new company sounds like a way to leave the Ubisoft corporation holding a bag of crap.
yup
so the scheme is like this
1. In order for the Guillemot to offload Assassin's Creed IP to a new company, Ubisoft have to 'sell' it to the new company at 'fair' market price.
2. But since the Guillemot family is the major shareholder in both companies, they're free to determine what AC 'fair' market share is
3. So they want to mark up AC IP price to high heaven. That's why they need other investors like Tencent to put up the money to buy that AC for the new company. In exchange Tencent will have shares on the new company
4. So the new company will only license AC IP to be developed by Ubisoft. Ubisoft will take most of the risks, but since it's already in the shithole, they don't really care
It's really greedy and slimy of them
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Horseganador
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AC Shadows will sell well...but not enough to save Ubi and pay 20,000 employee salaries.
The Chairman
Member
"1 million players" also here are some free keys to boost the numbers lol the investors didn't believe their lies.
PeteBull
Member
The thing about investors is- they kinda smart, aka they can sniff diseaster when they see it, 1m players announcement isnt what flagship longawaited AC title with multiple delays needs to do, its not in the league of gta 5/6 but its right behind it, aka it has to sell 10m copies, likely 5m+ durning launch window aka full price, to be succesfull, so astroturfers who dmg control and protect DEI infected game wont have any success in swaying investors minds, they wanna see hard numbers, like this:what's going on here??... investors got AC Shadows initial sales number??
Cyberpunk 2077 has sold more than 13 million copies, despite launch disaster and refunds
That includes more than 8 million preorders and also accounts for some refunds.
www.theverge.com
Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 and Ace Combat 7 have sold 6 million copies each
Focus Entertainment and Bandai Namco have announced that Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 and Ace Combat 7 have sold 6 million copies.
www.dsogaming.com
DryvBy
Member
Sounds like the most popular game of all time if you ask me.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I hear it's cause the market just found out they're French.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GHG
Gold Member
Gamers have been winning against this company since 2019, but let's not talk about that.
diffusionx
Gold Member
You didnt need to wait until the game came out to see the headwinds.The thing about investors is- they kinda smart, aka they can sniff diseaster when they see it, 1m players announcement isnt what flagship longawaited AC title with multiple delays needs to do, its not in the league of gta 5/6 but its right behind it, aka it has to sell 10m copies, likely 5m+ durning launch window aka full price, to be succesfull, so astroturfers who dmg control and protect DEI infected game wont have any success in swaying investors minds, they wanna see hard numbers, like this:
Or at least liike this:Cyberpunk 2077 has sold more than 13 million copies, despite launch disaster and refunds
That includes more than 8 million preorders and also accounts for some refunds.
Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 and Ace Combat 7 have sold 6 million copies each
Focus Entertainment and Bandai Namco have announced that Warhammer 40K: Space Marine 2 and Ace Combat 7 have sold 6 million copies.
The theory behind the price of a stock is that it reflects all known available information about the company. The implication of this is that the price changes based on the arrival of new, material information. An underperforming AC Shadows has been built into the stock price for months. The fact that Ubi could get shut down and sold off for scrap has been priced into the stock for years.
So what the stock does today vs. tomorrow really means very little without the arrival of some material information. I don't think we learned anything about Shadow's launch that we didnt know yesterdy.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Sounds like the best strategy would be to stop releasing games?
Kacho
Member
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Are we just rehashing Grummz Twitter now?
Every AC game in the last 10 years has had those options, also Mass Effect and a hundred other games.
Maybe stop crying over stuff that's existed forever.
Every AC game in the last 10 years has had those options, also Mass Effect and a hundred other games.
Maybe stop crying over stuff that's existed forever.
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Angry_Megalodon
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The stock market reacts immediately to relevant news. AC Shadows is the main product of the company, are you implying that its sales or any other info related to it doesn't impact investors?
It's been out for 24 hours. UbiSoft has not released sales numbers for the market to react to.
NuclearDiarrhea
Member
Investors found out that the recent patch made tables indestructible and now they're panicking.
Felessan
Member
yeah, coping is strong here
7% drop is a big one and shows lack of confidence in company and overall toned down expectations.
Investors are not stupid, if it was just "rush sell of undervalued company" many would bought the dip, and obviously it was not the case. It just shows that projected value dropped and investors see Ubi as less attractive and potentially performing company.
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MMaRsu
Gold Member
Which info tho?
I wouldnt have a strong confidence in the company if AC Shadows WAS a big hit.
That wouldnt change a thing as far as I'm seeing.
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GHG
Gold Member
Markets are predictive in nature and will often price in future anticipated news/financial results well ahead of them being realised.
Pandawan
Banned
1 million players is actually bad for such an expensive game. Players, not copies. But even 1 million copies on day one for a game of this scale is not that good.
KCD2 also had 1 million copies on day one. And KCD2 is a double A game, budget apx. 40 million. Assassins Creed Shadows had almost 10 times the budget (300-400 mill). AC Shadows had 10x the budget, but same (or even less) copies sold on day one than KCD2.
Ubosoft desperately needs a huge hit, and Shadows clearly didn't make it that big, that's why this drop happens.
KCD2 also had 1 million copies on day one. And KCD2 is a double A game, budget apx. 40 million. Assassins Creed Shadows had almost 10 times the budget (300-400 mill). AC Shadows had 10x the budget, but same (or even less) copies sold on day one than KCD2.
Ubosoft desperately needs a huge hit, and Shadows clearly didn't make it that big, that's why this drop happens.
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DanielG165
Gold Member
Oh come on, you know how many stock professionals we have here on GAF
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Well it comes directly from a Twitter account. Posted less than five minutes here after that account Tweeted it.Thanks
I am pretty well known for fucking hating ubisoft but this is hilarious
Felessan
Member
It's not about white and black, it's about projected (modelled) value.
Even bad company has its worth - IPs, some cashflow, especially from back catalog sales, anything that can be scrapped. And AC Shadows being a big hit - increase this value, and being failure compared to market consensus expectations - decrease it. Market price-in expectations and readjust on factual results in stock price of the company.
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TheChadOfGaming
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
They need to stop releasing huge open world games one after another and that means AC games as well. Bring back Splinter Cell FFS and other IPs, scale them down. Wtf is going on with the remake? We literally haven't heard shit about it for 2 years iirc.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Really? A 7% change in one day is a massive. That is not just some day to day fluctuation. Changes that large are a response to some news.
What information do you think investors are reacting to?