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videogamedunkey (Dunky) Thread
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The Scollard
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Found myself agreeing with most of Dunkey's points. Lately, I've mainly stopped reading reviews from mainstream outlets and started seeking reviewers who's opinions end up matching mine most of the time and who I can trust to get opinions on whether or not I should get a game for many of those reasons.
I also can't stand when a reviewer doesn't complete the game they're reviewing. I've played games that have fallen off a cliff quality-wise near the end (eg. Uncharted: Drake's Deception; Assassin's Creed 3). I don't expect a reviewer to 100% a game (like Assassin's Creed 3), but at least complete almost all of it.
I also can't stand when a reviewer doesn't complete the game they're reviewing. I've played games that have fallen off a cliff quality-wise near the end (eg. Uncharted: Drake's Deception; Assassin's Creed 3). I don't expect a reviewer to 100% a game (like Assassin's Creed 3), but at least complete almost all of it.
King Tubby
Member
Eh this latest video just seems like a rehash of the same criticisms people have had of game reviewers for what feels like 500 years.
I feel like you're in the minority there my dude.
?????? His point in the beginning was "when you have multiple writers working for a website you can lose track of who's talking," and I don't see how him cutting clips of like 4 differing opinions coming from the same website is wrong. Giant Bomb stands out like a sore thumb because A) they hardly review games B) hardly anyone goes there to read game reviews and C) 99% of the people who watch/read Giant Bomb know who works there and what their taste in games is like, which doesn't mesh with his argument at all.
I've also rarely seen anyone say Andromeda is a good game, and the biggest Mass Effect fan I know personally ended up uninstalling it and trading it in, so this is news to me.
Best part of him, i could hang out with that dude BBQ it up with the buddies.
Then again, just by watching his video, you have to know what kind of guy he is, he's a shit talker with some trolling in him, but when he has to get serious he will.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I don't find his comment about GTAV controversial, nobody is playing any of the GTAs because the shooting mechanics or the driving mechanics or flying mechanics are just so good, its more of a culmination of things that makes it good
AcademicSaucer
Member
This was funny tho
A) GB review most of the recent major releases. Even if it's later, I don't think they missed a AAA game review.
B) Sure people don't go for GB for reviews. But their reviews and Quick look get a lot of attention specially on Reddit. Most of IGN content is not reviews either. They have a major podcast for each platform, Beyond and Unlocked are the biggest PlayStation and Xbox podcasts respectively. So a lot of people go to IGN for things other than reviews too.
C) I know most of the reviewers tastes on IGN as well. Admittedly, GB have less staff so more would know their tastes better than a bigger site
I'm not trying to harp on GiantBomb because that's not my point at all. My point is people only get upset when someone attack a game/website that they like then they care. When most here on Gaf don't go to IGN/GameSpot and see someone criticize them, they will not do their research and see if that criticism is valid. For example, If that same out of context 5 seconds clip was used with Jeff criticizing Sonic and showed the review score by Dan as a 5 stars, we would have an army of people shitting on Dunkey in this thread for taking things out of context.
I guess it depends on your perspective. Most would say that Andromeda is very disappointing me included. A 7 out of 10 Mass Effect game is really bad considering the franchise history. It was buggy and a little padded. But was it bad? not in my opinion and many on /r/Massefect and in the community and OT thread here on Gaf share that opinion.
Mudron
Member
Christ, what kinda slurs?
Bro, I don't even know how to approach this post. How're people going to get upset at someone shitting on a site they know nothing about? Why would you expect people to "do their research," which I assume means learn the staff and their opinions, on a site they don't care about? How is Dunkey taking clips out of context by showing that some people at IGN like Sonic and some don't, considering his point is there a ton of people who work there and it's hard to tell who's talking? You can say it's a dumb point or argument, and it might be, but either way, my point still stands with the GB inclusion being weird.
Personally I have no idea what kind of content IGN makes; I don't even know how IGN is still around. You're the first person I've ever run into that goes to IGN. I haven't been on that site since the early 2000s.
And here are some "big" titles that haven't been reviewed by GB:
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Yakuza 0
Nioh
For Honor
Halo Wars 2
Nier Automata
Persona 5
Yooka Laylee
Prey
Tekken 7
So you like going to BBQs with homophobes? Gotcha.
Also don't even think of throwing the "Just because he said that doesn't mean he's a homophobe!" bullshit at me. As someone already explained earlier in the thread, you're a racist if you throw the N word around. Same with the F word being homophobic.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
thread has turned into personal attacks on peoples character...
People are underestimating how destructive bigotry actually.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
"you like the company of homophobes if you want to BBQ with Dunkey"
how does that help anyone? its not a reasonable or useful statement, and really does not appear to be trying to educate people on bigotry.
If you don't show yourself to be weak of character you'll have nothing to worry about.
Dunkey made a pretty dumb video and happened to say something even dumber previously. It came up, so now it's being discussed. Is it the Dunkey discussion thread or a shrine to his honor?
You're actually trying to call people on "personal attacks" while advocating his casual homophobia just be swept under the rug. Astounding lack of self-awareness, hypocrisy, or both going on here.
Nobody's owed an education.
You do you, but as someone who actually got through some pretty nasty homophobic attack both in words and physically...that ain't fuckin enough to call someone a homophobe
No shit thrown there buddy, but don't expect to label someone as you prefer and then have everybody else follow
This, his streams are even funnier than his YT vids, dude's hilarious
lvl99 Pixel
Member
oh get real
The dude's only post in the thread was basically saying he seems like the type of guy he wants to BBQ with because he says faggot on streams.
It's not like you're defending someone that made some great argument, that's the type of comment looking for attention for being edgy, and he got the attention he wanted.
What are you talking about? I said I didn't condone Dunkey's use of homophobic slurs, kcxiv then posted that that was the "best part of him" and that he wants to BBQ with him. That's not "You like Dunkey? You're a homophobe." He literally complimented it and wants to hang out with him because he uses homophobic slurs. What the hell do you think that means?
Re-read the posts.
Like, straight up complimented the dude for saying slurs.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
I know you think you're fighting the good fight, but being instead of actually arguing a point you're being abrasive and giving an armchair analysis on people.
User said he likes that hes a "shit talker" and enjoys the "trolling"
you might be twisting the words, even if its not really a good reason to like someone.
If you're unable to evaluate something as blatant as KC14's post...oh boy.
I made my point already. That you're being as thick as a stone isn't something I have to address.
AmayaPapaya
Banned
I agree with Dunkey on a lot of what he said, but not all of it. I like his callout on Gamespot and their horrendous 2D platformer reviews. The Tropical Freeze review is a blight on humanity. And he is good to call out how reviewers have become somewhat of a marketing arm for publishers, and how YouTubers are starting to go down that path. The former isn't that original, but the latter is starting to pick up steam. However, I disagree with his assessment that the reviews of major outlets are weirdly splurged together into one giant mess. It's generally understood that these websites have a lot of people with different opinions, and you're supposed to find the people who you like to listen to, and who you trust. There might not be some unified vision, but there doesn't need to be. Funny video as always! Keep it up.
If you're unable to evaluate something as blatant as KC14's post...oh boy.
Folks, it is...understandable to look the other way when it comes to folks that offers you something in value but if said folk has evidence to indicate said person is contributing to the ills of humanity, don't expect such transgressions to be ignored.
PatThePassive
Member
Good points about the cons of video games reviews
Youtube reviewers also have plenty of faults, a majority of fans seem to just parrot the views of their favorite youtubers instead of coming to there own conclusions.
I would prefer to get better trailers (only some games have good trailers which is a shame)and gameplay footage before release.
Oh the slurs thing the F word is the first word that has become off limits in my life and I think the its the same for the people who argue that its no big deal.
It was the second word out of every kids mouth growing up, I assume that's why some people are resisting it going away it could be the first word they are losing and for whatever reason they don't want to give it up
Youtube reviewers also have plenty of faults, a majority of fans seem to just parrot the views of their favorite youtubers instead of coming to there own conclusions.
I would prefer to get better trailers (only some games have good trailers which is a shame)and gameplay footage before release.
Oh the slurs thing the F word is the first word that has become off limits in my life and I think the its the same for the people who argue that its no big deal.
It was the second word out of every kids mouth growing up, I assume that's why some people are resisting it going away it could be the first word they are losing and for whatever reason they don't want to give it up
genuinely interested in how you people shocked/disgusted at dunkey saying faggot cope with this stuff irl because people throw that word and others around a lot. people who are mostly decent people. fag especially has become more watered down and generalised. most people just don't police their language like people do here and in certain circles on the internet.
I think as long as if a person is challenged about it and take onboard the criticism and they don't have a history of anti-whatever bigotry, it's okay and that person doesn't usually mean harm.
language is weird and habits can be hard to break.
I think as long as if a person is challenged about it and take onboard the criticism and they don't have a history of anti-whatever bigotry, it's okay and that person doesn't usually mean harm.
language is weird and habits can be hard to break.
Conkerkid11
Member
Tell that to the people who look at something like an IGN review for a game they think deserves a higher score, then look at other reviews that same website gave other games to help justify their belief that the website's reviews are shit. Happens a lot here on GAF.
Zomba13
Member
I don't have those people in my life. My friends don't use slurs like, at least not with me, and anyone who does gets a "dude, what the fuck?" type of reaction. I don't think it's a good thing to let slurs and hate speech become normalized and it should be called out whenever possible. How would you like it if someone came up with a slur for you and then used it in negative and hateful ways? Wouldn't you want that to stop? Wouldn't you not want people you like to say those words and you'd want them to understand the weight and meaning of their words?
I don't give a fuck if it becomes more common or 4chan kiddies grow up from vile little preteens into vile adults, I just cut those people out of my life.
ScientificPizza
Banned
It's not like there are two extremes though. It's not condemning Dunkey as a homophobe or looking the other way. Very few people in this thread have said they've looked the other way. You can still cool out shitty behaviour *without* labelling someone as homophobic.
That person saying they would chill with Dunkey seemingly because he uses slurs is lame and that sucks, but don't take that as everyone's views who aren't immediately jumping to Dunkey being homophobic. You can be critical of a person's actions and discuss how the use of a word sucks while *still* enjoying their work and not acting like they're some overtly hateful bigot.
i dont care if they are or not. Doesnt bother me. If someone doesnt like gays, you know what? thats ok! one of my best friends bro is gay, i grew up around him. Coolest fucking dude ever. Dudes my friend as well. Nothing but love for him. (had to point that out, before someone said i was a homophobe because it was going to go there).
People have the right to believe in what they want to believe if i agree or not. As long as they arent out hurting someone because of it, im fine with it.
I just recently found out about him. Im an old man now, so i dont know all the "cool" stuff the kids watch now days. Im not that old 40! lol I seen his Zelda video and couldnt stop laughing. Imma have to check out his streams is it Twitch or Youtube?
And I think this is a myth perpetuated by a few factors. Firstly, there's a lot of trash that receives or would receive lower scores than 5, but nobody bothers to review it because it's all no-name shovelware crap, unless it's, say, a Sonic game. Because that's a big brand that people pay attention to. Secondly, nobody says 7 is a bad score. Most 7/10 reviews come off as generally positive. You can go to Metacritic right now to see the newest Kirby game getting a bunch of 6's, with the consensus being "it's a pretty fun distraction". Thirdly, a lot of games really aren't as bad as the internet says. The internet tends to get more caught up on specific things that your average consumer wouldn't be as put off by. Fez, for example. Joe Public doesn't care that the guy who made it is an ess jay dubya who's a bit of a dick online.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
This was a really stupid video
I don't why I bothered typing all that stuff. So you are saying it's fine for you and other people to get a kick of Youtubers making fun of websites they don't know as far as they don't touch websites they know? if so, then never mind and carry on.
Btw IGN is still the biggest gaming website by far.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/ign.com
Will show you that they are ranked 283 globally and 103 in the U.S.
what the actual fuck.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
This is the most "hardcoregamer" ass video possible.
Not realizing that IGN needs that many people to review as many games as they review is just....dumb. And A LOT of people do not give a shit who reviews the game.
I don't know who reviewed the camera I bought, I just read the review and it sounded good. Why should it be different for games? And if you WANT different, well, there are tons and tons of options out there. So what's the problem again? That not everybody is a Youtuber?
I don't need to know exactly what a critic likes and dislikes to find value in his/her review.
As I said earlier: Really pointless and dumb video
Not realizing that IGN needs that many people to review as many games as they review is just....dumb. And A LOT of people do not give a shit who reviews the game.
I don't know who reviewed the camera I bought, I just read the review and it sounded good. Why should it be different for games? And if you WANT different, well, there are tons and tons of options out there. So what's the problem again? That not everybody is a Youtuber?
I don't need to know exactly what a critic likes and dislikes to find value in his/her review.
As I said earlier: Really pointless and dumb video
Hnghnalsjlwjlasjdöauwj#"§$%
You do know that just being vocal about disliking gays is harmful, right? Fucking hell, man
Conkerkid11
Member
BassForever
Member
The sad thing is I imagine a lot of people who throw out homophobic slurs online don't even process the fact they're using homophobic slurs. Those words have just become so ingrained as an insult for something they don't like it's gonna take a lot to fix that issue. Not saying Dunkey or anyone else deserves a pass for using them, just that it might not be a deep seated hatered of the lgbtq community and more a general cultural vocabulary problem.
The fuck are you talking about? I'm saying there's no "outrage" in here about him calling out IGN because they were relevant to Dunkey's arguments, be they right or wrong. The point is Giant Bomb doesn't even apply. And I'm well aware IGN is the biggest gaming site, but I never know why, 'cause I never hear anyone talk about them
lvl99 Pixel
Member
Well I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. This isnt ok :/
From his nonsensical video he is "attempting" to talk about game critics and since GB review games he put them in the same basket. So yes GB is relevant to his argument.
Nobody talk about them is like saying nobody buy Call of Duty because the OT on Gaf is only few pages.
Well I'm expecting your next response to start again with "The fuck are you talking about?" or "Bro, I don't even know how to approach this post." or some new way of being condescending.
nephilimdj
Member
Its a terrible video, its as broad and appealing to outrage as a jim sterling video.
People always rise out of the major gaming review sites, people like Danny O'Dwyer started as a contractor for gamespot 5 years ago.
People always rise out of the major gaming review sites, people like Danny O'Dwyer started as a contractor for gamespot 5 years ago.
