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videogamedunkey (Dunky) Thread

N° 2048

Member
Funny video.
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Now to find my way out of this thread.
 
Whatever the guy jockingly said (still totally not ok) pales in comparison to the defence force here. I don't know how you were raised if you are so triggered when you read that people don't condone the use of the word faggot.

Note to myself: immediately mentally discard any response that points to the "gaf liberal hivemind". This place is full of shit like any other place on the internet.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
I don't know if it's because we're from separate parts of the country but growing up faggot and gay have 2 completely different meanings to me. You can be a faggot and not be gay. I've never used the word "faggot" towards a gay dude.

What the actual fuck.

I'm legitimately saddened by some of the people being brought out of the woodwork here. :\
 

Sami+

Member
What the actual fuck.

I'm legitimately saddened by some of the people being brought out of the woodwork here. :

To be fair maybe he didn't know? I only became a lot more aware of social issues and stuff like this within the past few years, so I could have said the same thing if I was asked like five years ago. Definitely remember the word being thrown around a lot when I was in middle/high school.

Idk I guess he's banned so it doesn't matter anyway I just wanna believe some people here can be given the benefit of the doubt.

Video is eh, just ok. That stream clip is really awkward and I'm really disappointed he's like that.
 

kvothe

Member
A lot of his criticisms are about 5 years too late, pretty much all of the big outlets do focus on personality driven content now. His video focuses too much on review scores, you should be reading the review not an arbitrary score at the end. The score isn't often decided by the reviewer, but by a senior stuff who aim to tie all the reviews together with a score that represents and is in line with the rest of the website. Advertisers and reviewers are separate departments and have been for quite some time, so leave the unfounded gamer gate bullshit at home Dunky. YouTubers however...

The video felt like a critique on games journalism in 2005.

It's not the first time his criticism has felt really outdated. In late 2015 he made a video criticizing Microsoft for the red ring of death, game for windows live, and windows 8. This was long past the time all those issues had been resolved or put out to pasture. But people still acted like it was a mind blowing, badass critique.
 
The more I think about the critics video the shittier it becomes. I've watched some Dunkey stuff in the past but I think I'm done. Totally mean spirited and unnecessary.
 
Milkshake Dunk

But seriously, this video was embarrassing to watch. Almost all of his points I've heard fucking years ago, and some of the points he ripped from years ago aren't even good ones. He brings up both the God Hand review and the Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire review. Like, straight up, these are forum memes, not points make in your video about game critics. The former makes the comparison between Imagine Babyz's review and God Hand's, ignoring that there exists the potential for two people to make wildly different reviews. The latter was just fucking embarrassing. Like anyone will note, the ORAS review, anyone with any sense was making fun of it because the line "too much water" when out of context sounds silly. But the issue is that most people actually think that people are mocking that point for being bad journalism, and either Dunkey's doing some really next-level jokey shit by bringing it up, or he got really, really lazy.

There's something ironic too that he would make such an outdated video about a subject that covers the likes of:

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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
here are the very important points of this video:

- Gaming press outlets are bad because they have multiple authors and sometimes members of the same site disagree with one another. This means you need to actually keep track of people's names, which is impossible. This is opposed to YouTubers, whose names you can keep track of.

- Reviews should be a running blog so your viewers get to know your personality because that's what I do.

- Reviewers should be cognizant of their shortcomings. So if a reviewer says they hate a genre and then later likes something in the genre, you should pay extra attention to it.

- It's bad to give up on game critics because they said a game you like is bad. But if they do it a lot, then you should give up on them.

- Reviewers should stand out from the crowd and have unique opinions unless it's too many unique opinions, then it's bad.

- So many major reviews feel the same way about major games.

- [Shows review of classic video game] This is boring everyone's already played the game and everyone knows its good so why write a review of it

- It's bad that games I don't like get high numbers or even middle numbers. Even if a site says a 7 means mediocre to me that's a high number so that's bad.

- It's bad that reviews only use 7, 8, and 9. [Shows picture of GameSpot's recent reviews, which are 4, 7, 6, and 6] I only use low scores instead so 3/5 means amazing.

- It's about ethics in gaming journalism.

- Reviewers mostly play new games and this is bad because your standards will be defined by what's done recently.

- Reviews are buyers guides and this is bad because they should be critical assessments

- Reviews should be subjective, unless I disagree with them.

- Some people said Mario was hard and I don't think it was hard.

- A guy reviewed Crash and said it was bad because it was too hard and that's bad. He's an idiot and no good at games. And if you're not good at a genre you shouldn't review it. But I agree Crash is too hard, it's just too hard at a later point than the point where he said it was hard. And also the hitboxes are bad.

- It's bad if a reviewer doesn't finish a game before reviewing it, even if they note that in their review and nothing about their review depends on the end of the game

- Actually Crash is not very good but it looks great and critics noted this, but they're wrong because they gave it high scores

- Reviews that talk about graphics instead of fun are bad

- Well actually I also can't enjoy games if the music is bad

- Sometimes reviews say bad things but then conclude that the game is greater than the sum of its parts and this is bad because the number is too high


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True Fire

Member
I always found Dunkey to be trite tbh. His jokes were always the lowest hanging fruit—only made worthwhile by his voice. If you want subtlety and originality you've been following the wrong youtuber.
 
I always found Dunkey to be trite tbh. His jokes were always the lowest hanging fruit—only made worthwhile by his voice. If you want subtlety and originality you've been following the wrong youtuber.

Dunkey either strikes out horribly or hits a home run which is why I don't sub to him but still check out any of his videos that get a lot of buzz like the last guardian or breath of the wild.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
I always found Dunkey to be trite tbh. His jokes were always the lowest hanging fruit—only made worthwhile by his voice. If you want subtlety and originality you've been following the wrong youtuber.

I'm not a follower but I've enjoyed some of his gameplay mashup vids (BotW comes to mind). Any vid I've watched where it seems like he's trying to actually say something just feels weird.
 

aeolist

Banned
being mad about game reviews in 2014 when gamergate happened was bad enough, nowadays i'm confused as to how it's even possible
 

Megalo

Member
Damn, tough crowd here. It wasn't his best tho, that's for sure.

Also did I just read that Dunkey is homophobic ? Come on now...
You may not like the way he uses certain words and that's your right but don't project on him.
We should ask Sky Williams what he thinks about that.
 
OK video but pointing out why big faceless review sites are increasingly irrelevant is a bit basic. Everyone knows this shit. No one really gives a crap what IGN or Gamespot says anymore. Its 2017 and those sites are slowly dying anyway. Congrats! We won.
 
Eh, I've come to believe that there's enough room for basic/immediate "should I buy it" reviews and more in-depth critiques. Dunkey seems to get too hung up on numbers and scores and somehow undervalues the meat of the common review.
 

napata

Member
His arguments are about as week as I would expect from a GamerGater.

Are they? I think the argument that publishers indirectly pay reviewers through advertisements and can actually put a reviewer out of his job for giving a low score is a pretty strong one. I wouldn't want to lose my job for giving a bad score. Often I read reviews where its pretty apparent that the reviewer doesn't really like the game followed by an 8/10 at the end. There's definitely a conflict of interest.

I've also heard about publishers flying out reviewers to events & parties for a game launch where they give the reviewers expensive gifts.
 

Irminsul

Member
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That explains why I thought "Wait... what did he want to say in his video, actually?" when I read through the thread. Really a confused mess.

But at least his gameplay videos are quite funny, most of the time. And his E3 video was one of the better ones.
 

Murkas

Member
I can't remember the last time I cared for a review.

I don't get how anyone still cares about reviews in this day and age where it feels like every other game is a well established sequel that you'd know if you're likely to enjoy or not. And if it is a brand new game you're not used to, you got twitch and youtube vids to get a better reaction.

Also find it funny how Dunky/people are clamouring for 200% Associated Press style 'integrity' for game reviews (people outside the GG asshats). It's video game reviews. Chill out, they hardly matter. And let's say we did get that, people would still just ignore the main body text or video and focus on the score at the end.

Off course I'm wasting my time saying this when you got threads everywhere and here on GAF of a game getting 7/8 out of 10 sending people into a frenzy. At least reading meltdowns will always be hilarious.
 

aeolist

Banned
we're not seriously pretending that every criticism of game reviews has to be tied to gamergate right?

that isn't implicit in my post

I've also heard about publishers flying out reviewers to events & parties for a game launch where they give the reviewers expensive gifts.

when that stuff happens the professional reviewers usually at least tell you about it, youtubers like dunkey just take the free trips and hype the game without mentioning it
 

kvothe

Member
Damn, tough crowd here. It wasn't his best tho, that's for sure.

Also did I just read that Dunkey is homophobic ? Come on now...
You may not like the way he uses certain words and that's your right but don't project on him.
We should ask Sky Williams what he thinks about that.

Calling someone a homophobe for using homophobic language is not projecting.
 

PK Gaming

Member
I always found Dunkey to be trite tbh. His jokes were always the lowest hanging fruit—only made worthwhile by his voice. If you want subtlety and originality you've been following the wrong youtuber.

Yeah, that's the long and the short of it. He's got excellent comedic timing, but I don't think he's ever been particularly insightful.
 

ZoddGutts

Member
Caring for games that got good responses from people who played those games? Huh? I don't care much for review scores, but it does suck to see a game like Pray not get better reviews because it may affect sales of it for not being high on metascore. Too many people rely on Meta to decide on getting a game. Net High looks awesome and it's gotten great responses from people who have actually played it, same with Uppers. Akiba's Beat sequel looked bad from day one.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
To be fair maybe he didn't know? I only became a lot more aware of social issues and stuff like this within the past few years

This is complete nonsense.

Unless you're a little kid who doesn't know better, you do not need to become "aware" that the f-word is not an appropriate word to say. If you're still saying it as an adult, you know that. You simply don't care.
 

Squire

Banned
I always found Dunkey to be trite tbh. His jokes were always the lowest hanging fruit—only made worthwhile by his voice. If you want subtlety and originality you've been following the wrong youtuber.

I mean, that's the thing. Dude tries to do videos like this and only ends up exposing himself as a dipstick. He's entirely out of his depth here.

Dunkey isn't as thoughtful as he thinks he is, but he likes to indulge that notion once in a while. It was pretty lol to begin with, but now it's embersssing.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
I'm probably missing some context, but it's aggravating that the thread creator insisted on putting another misspelling of the word "donkey" in parentheses in the thread title.
 

Maximo

Member
here are the very important points of this video:

- Gaming press outlets are bad because they have multiple authors and sometimes members of the same site disagree with one another. This means you need to actually keep track of people's names, which is impossible. This is opposed to YouTubers, whose names you can keep track of.

- Reviews should be a running blog so your viewers get to know your personality because that's what I do.

- Reviewers should be cognizant of their shortcomings. So if a reviewer says they hate a genre and then later likes something in the genre, you should pay extra attention to it.

- It's bad to give up on game critics because they said a game you like is bad. But if they do it a lot, then you should give up on them.

- Reviewers should stand out from the crowd and have unique opinions unless it's too many unique opinions, then it's bad.

- So many major reviews feel the same way about major games.

- [Shows review of classic video game] This is boring everyone's already played the game and everyone knows its good so why write a review of it

- It's bad that games I don't like get high numbers or even middle numbers. Even if a site says a 7 means mediocre to me that's a high number so that's bad.

- It's bad that reviews only use 7, 8, and 9. [Shows picture of GameSpot's recent reviews, which are 4, 7, 6, and 6] I only use low scores instead so 3/5 means amazing.

- It's about ethics in gaming journalism.

- Reviewers mostly play new games and this is bad because your standards will be defined by what's done recently.

- Reviews are buyers guides and this is bad because they should be critical assessments

- Reviews should be subjective, unless I disagree with them.

- Some people said Mario was hard and I don't think it was hard.

- A guy reviewed Crash and said it was bad because it was too hard and that's bad. He's an idiot and no good at games. And if you're not good at a genre you shouldn't review it. But I agree Crash is too hard, it's just too hard at a later point than the point where he said it was hard. And also the hitboxes are bad.

- It's bad if a reviewer doesn't finish a game before reviewing it, even if they note that in their review and nothing about their review depends on the end of the game

- Actually Crash is not very good but it looks great and critics noted this, but they're wrong because they gave it high scores

- Reviews that talk about graphics instead of fun are bad

- Well actually I also can't enjoy games if the music is bad

- Sometimes reviews say bad things but then conclude that the game is greater than the sum of its parts and this is bad because the number is too high


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Normally love Dunkey videos but man this one felt like a rambling mess that was relevant 5 years ago.
 
Dunkey isn't as thoughtful as he thinks he is, but he likes to indulge that notion once in a while. It was pretty lol to begin with, but now it's embersssing.

Yeah, that's definitely the impression I got after watching the video. His argument is really terrible. I have no idea what point he was trying to make other than "paid reviewers are bad."
 
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