Its more what have you done for me lately. Lately he's given us The Leftovers. If that's a reflection of his TV writer/showrunner career trajectory I'm all in on Watchmen.
'Watchmen' TV Series From Damon Lindelof in the Works at HBO [update: pilot ordered]
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Its more what have you done for me lately. Lately he's given us The Leftovers. If that's a reflection of his TV writer/showrunner career trajectory I'm all in on Watchmen.
Same people praised The Dark Knight Returns too
Bruce Springsteen
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Leftovers was fantastic , can't wait
The point being. People still praise Watchmen today.
Extra Sauce
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The Leftovers is such a brilliant work of art that I feel second hand embarrassment for the played out Lindelof bashers in this thread.
100000000000000x this! More people need to see the Leftovers.
AuthenticM
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Bryan Fuller should be making this.
SargerusBR
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Damon Lindelof?
It's gonna suck.
It's gonna suck.
There are dozens of us.
Neogaf!
idk man, I loved the comic, I liked the movie, I'm going to hate the series.
Puck Beaverton
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If this more than a season, and I hope it isn't, we have to be getting before Watchmen material right?
Hopefully Lindelof isn't a slave to the material. Translate, don't copy.
Hopefully Lindelof isn't a slave to the material. Translate, don't copy.
TheGreatDirector
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You mean the animated adaptation of it? Isn't that actually highly regarded?
Puck Beaverton
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I do not enjoy The Dark Knight Returns. Moore is so far above Miller even when Miller doesn't suck.
SCULLIBUNDO
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(oh shit)
Hydrargyrus
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Nice, maybe it's good
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Is Papa Lind gonna bless us with #anotherone?
Lost- Bless
Leftovers- Bless
Watchmen- ?
Lost- Bless
Leftovers- Bless
Watchmen- ?
Inferno313
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The Leftovers was absolutely incredible. This is best-case scenario. I can't fucking wait.
styl3s
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Lost and Leftovers are 2 of my favorite shows so i am in.
And yeah Lost was fantastic even in it's messy final season.
Chmpocalypse
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Jfc, it's like pretension within pretension. Pretensionception.
FriendlyGoat
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My take is that Watchmen isn't worth adapting unless it goes the extra mile. It was a comic that was a very specific and special reaction to comics before it. Snyder's version was a faithful adaptation that, by sticking so close, lost the soul of the material.
Lindelof has some duds, sure, but he is absolutely willing to betray the audience and do what he feels is necessary to tell the story he wants to tell, for better or worse (this approach payed off so, so much with The Leftovers), and that is precisely what a proper Watchmen adaptation would require. It needs to be a reaction to the current landscape of superhero television and movies, otherwise what's the fuckin' point.
Lindelof has some duds, sure, but he is absolutely willing to betray the audience and do what he feels is necessary to tell the story he wants to tell, for better or worse (this approach payed off so, so much with The Leftovers), and that is precisely what a proper Watchmen adaptation would require. It needs to be a reaction to the current landscape of superhero television and movies, otherwise what's the fuckin' point.
Mushroomer25
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I almost wonder if it's the opposite. The Leftovers was ratings poison for HBO, and not a cheap show to produce. The fact it got a third season at all is a miracle.
I almost wonder if Lindeloff agreed to put his touch on a big name project like this, in exchange for making that final season happen.
The One and Done
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DL earned some good will with Leftovers. I'll watch.
PhantomX1313
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Down anytime for a Watchmen
stenbumling
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Incredible thread. And news.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Yeah, that actually would be the more logical name in terms of style and transfers.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It always comes in threes.
DDL quits acting.
Lord and Miller bail on Star Wars.
Now this.
DDL quits acting.
Lord and Miller bail on Star Wars.
Now this.
But the third one would need to be bad thing for that pattern to make sense!
My opinion on Lindelof changed for the better when I found out his script for Prometheus was not really used, was apparently coherent and explained things, and he wasn't at fault for that shitshow.
I don't like Lost, but it was pretty unique, and Leftovers was good.
Not sure where the hate for Lindelof is really coming from- he would probably do a great job with this.
Doubtful, he probably jumped at the chance- Lindelof loves Watchmen and cited it as an influence in Lost.
I don't like Lost, but it was pretty unique, and Leftovers was good.
Not sure where the hate for Lindelof is really coming from- he would probably do a great job with this.
Doubtful, he probably jumped at the chance- Lindelof loves Watchmen and cited it as an influence in Lost.
dead souls
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Lol, no thanks. Make better choices HBO.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I thought I read something somewhat recently where his draft was used, but Scott ended up changing a lot of it in production anyway, leaving a lot more plotholes than intended. So he's responsible for expanding Spaigts' ideas but not necessarily for how they were utilized. Can't seem to find that now.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Bro, you can find Lindeof's draft easily. It's exactly as you find it on screen. Haven't got it in front of me right now, but I'm pretty sure it's the shooting draft.
Read it and literally weep.
MHWilliams
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Pretty much this. I don't think he's a genius. He's a good writer with some good ideas, who if left to his own devices will frequently take those ideas in bad directions.
Folks are leaving The Leftovers entirely at his feet, and while he deserves much of that credits, it does not behoove to ignore the rest of what he's done. This'll live and die on the writer's room he puts together and if someone will be there to go, "No, that's a bad idea."
Nah, you can find Lindelof's script pretty easily.
Well then I was reading some old BS because that script is garbage.
I'll still give him The Leftovers benefit and hope it's not a fluke....
Bobby Roberts
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Do I think Damon Lindelof given 10-12 hours, a room full of his Leftovers favorites, and HBO's resources can do a better job of adapting Alan Moore's work than Alex Tse & David Hayter with 2 1/2 hours and Zack Snyder at the helm?
Yes. I do.
Yes. I do.
MHWilliams
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I mean, that's a given. Given two seasons though and nobody holding him back, I think Lindelof would find new ways to potentially mess it up. Like I said, depends on the room he builds.
Bobby Roberts
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Well yeah, but have you read that interview he did with Seitz?
Dude now is not dude then, and dude makes mistakes still, but dude seems a lot more open to being pulled back becuase there isn't a second that goes by that he's not aware that he's going to have to pay penance on LOST for the rest of his fucking life.
That's a powerful engine.
MHWilliams
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Hatefilled Vengeance
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Ugh, one of the worst writers in the industry.
I guess it can't be worse than the movie. Maybe...
I guess it can't be worse than the movie. Maybe...
It's horrible and gets worse as it goes.
brianjones
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Hatefilled Vengeance
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They both suffered from a lot of the same problems, but Lost at least lasted longer before you realized they had no clue what they were doing (which in some ways made it worse). The Leftovers you could tell really early on that it would be a disaster.