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[Dane]

DRM, didn't matter that the Xbox had better exclusives than PS4 for a year and half and had it removed kinect months later. Many people were dead set on not having it. Another issue is that they lacked first party studios until they started acquiring in 2018 (Mojang being the exception for being an easy cash return).

Porting exclusives honestly is a pro consumer move, you can't tell a random that "you need to spend 300-500 dollars on a console to play it even if your hardware could run it, it is a necessary evil/for your own good" and expect him to think it is nice.

 

[Zathalus]

All of that basically, except RROD. That certainly cost them but the 360 was able to bounce back from that.

 

[KormaChameleon]

TV TV TV TV sports sports sports. And then, this bellend.

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

Kinect paved the way for TV TV TV and cost to include Kinect with Xbox One (so you could say TV TV TV) compromised the power of the hardware.

It marked the true shift to corporate out of touch Xbox, and they never got it back.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I do wonder what the overall impact of the DRM requirements for Xbox One were for the general population.

I can't imagine that it even registered to the average casual consumer who doesn't watch E3/keynotes or participate in online discourse around gaming. Just plays Gears of War multiplayer and the annual Assassin's Creed.

DRM was a key reason I didn't buy one, but I'm comparatively plugged in.

 

[Rentahamster]

All of those points are factors but the beginning of the end was the always online crap because it signified a change of course away from their core demographic and that the leadership was out of touch.

 

[Celcius]

No exclusives = no reason to buy

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

Democrats.

 

[Det]

Yep. I go back to the day Phil Spencer said they were no longer going to report Xbox sales numbers. That's when it was over. Phil Spencer was correct two years ago when he said last gen was the worst gen to lose since backward compatibility this gen meant everyone could bring their gaming library forward. Xbox Series, Game Pass, etc. wasn't nearly compelling enough for PlayStation gamers to start over.

Loser's excuse.

Suppose I bought the PS4 and all the digital games on PSN, all of them that exist to be purchased. I don't even have physical media, everything is digital and they are all PS4 games.

The Xbox SX is much better than the PS5 and what do I do?

A) I am forced to throw my PS4 IN THE TRASH to buy an SX (I'M RETARDED)

B) I bought the SX to play new generation games and I leave my PS4 to play the "super important legacy library" which, according to the Clown Spencer, makes it impossible for people to buy an SX and NOT a PS5.

I've worked with incompetent and dishonest people who always made excuses for their stupidity, Phill does the same. I guarantee that this was the excuse that Phill gave to Nadella

 

[Topher]

Loser's excuse.

Suppose I bought the PS4 and all the digital games on PSN, all of them that exist to be purchased. I don't even have physical media, everything is digital and they are all PS4 games.

The Xbox SX is much better than the PS5 and what do I do?

A) I am forced to throw my PS4 IN THE TRASH to buy an SX (I'M RETARDED)

B) I bought the SX to play new generation games and I leave my PS4 to play the "super important legacy library" which, according to the Clown Spencer, makes it impossible for people to buy an SX and NOT a PS5.

I've worked with incompetent and dishonest people who always made excuses for their stupidity, Phill does the same. I guarantee that this was the excuse that Phill gave to Nadella

I'd say that it does make sense that most folks wouldn't want to just leave their digital library behind and start over. But at the same time, it is a loser excuse because Phil Spencer didn't give anyone enough of a reason to want to switch platforms. The power angle was a farce, there was no Bethesda or Activision to bail out their weak first party, meanwhile Sony had four years in a row of top gaming hits. So yeah....I agree it doesn't really work as an excuse. Phil Spencer isn't paid millions for excuses.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

The concept and roll-out of the Xbox One. They could’ve seized the moment but they completely botched the approach to that console cycle. Just painful to watch. Damage was done before they even launched it. Brutal.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

The 1-2 punch of the disastrous "TV, TV, TV" Xbone reveal coupled with the hardware being weaker and more expensive obliterated the goodwill they'd built up with the 360.

Then Good Guy Sony capitalized with cheaper/stronger hardware, game sharing that didn't require a 5-minute tutorial, and a great gaming ecosystem with lots of AAA and indie support.

I really miss that Sony.

 

[mayham2199]

it's between the always online and lack of exclusives, one made people walk away from the brand, the other made so that nobody even bothered looking back

Man this could not describe my situation any better. I almost went back for titfanfall (an exclusive!). Then I played it thought it was trash and returned the whole thing bundle.

 

[MacReady13]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but this is a pretty good article on the thing that has ruined the Xbox brand the most, IMO...

Video Game Industry 'Doesn't Want a Game Pass', Says Market Analyst

Subscription services falling short of expectations

www.pushsquare.com

Even reading that though, there will be plenty on here still saying it's viable and needed in the games space. To that I say gamepass and ALL sub services can fuck off. Forever. They aren't wanted not only by the vast majority of gamers but developers themselves.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

This game should be a poll option

Completely killed my interest in the series and my confidence in Microsoft’s first party

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

maybe a better question is what have they done right since the x360 days

cant think of much

 

[Dick Jones]

Phil Spencer. 100% Anyone taking over when he did would have made a fucking plan for the next gen. Spencer released a fucking console with no new first party game.

Name his achievements. Overpaying for publishers using funds not earned by you is never an achievement. Playing 200 hours (wink) in 2 weeks is not an achievement.

 

[Dcr1d3r]

As soon as MS swapped Peter 'El Don' Moore for Don Mattrick, that was the beginning of the end for Xbox...Moore and Greenberg had Kutaragi and Hirai literally running in circles with PR...how MS haven't addressed this quite so simple flaw amazes me...

 

[Bojanglez]

Maybe the question should be who? Not what

 

[laynelane]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but this is a pretty good article on the thing that has ruined the Xbox brand the most, IMO...

Video Game Industry 'Doesn't Want a Game Pass', Says Market Analyst

Subscription services falling short of expectations

www.pushsquare.com

Even reading that though, there will be plenty on here still saying it's viable and needed in the games space. To that I say gamepass and ALL sub services can fuck off. Forever. They aren't wanted not only by the vast majority of gamers but developers themselves.

Further, before completing its gargantuan acquisition of Call of Duty publisher Activision, Microsoft was banking on over 100 million Game Pass subscribers to its service by 2030. That's presumably the number the endeavour needed to achieve to be worth the massive investment, not just in money and time but also in re-educating its core audience on what a game is worth.

That a very succinct way of putting it and, fwiw, that's been one of the main concerns I've had with the push towards gaming as a sub service.