CuteFaceJay
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this might explain why queue times in Halo are trash. That's rough.
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RetroGamingUK
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Nintendo and PC, to a lesser extent though
If you want a home console you have no choice now.
If you’re put off by handhelds or computers you have no choice now.
That doesn’t mean Sony can charge what they like though.
reinking
Gold Member
Consumers will.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
They had the disc version of the series X for $350 (with a game) over a year ago. Now the digital version with no game is like $100 more than that. No thanks.
Give me something like Avowed or Indiana Jones with an Xbox for $350 and I'll buy one right now.
Give me something like Avowed or Indiana Jones with an Xbox for $350 and I'll buy one right now.
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Woopah
Member
It's at least 25 million, and the $80 billion is reported to investors so it is true.
Topher
Identifies as young
80 billion across all platforms
Mibu no ookami
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You don't even realize that you proved my point..
Ainem Enamas
Member
What should they do now...I have Series X and it's such a nice console
vpance
Member
Consumers will.
I feel like that doesn't work as well as it should. Or as quick as it should.
There's always going to be a period of time where the dominant player just milks their position for a while. For now it's a complete mismanagement of 1st party without giving af.
Show me where it states that Series X/S generated xxx in any quarter during an earnings release, you won't be able to because xbox revenue is hidden within the compute segment which also contains Windows revenue. There's a reason they hide the numbers behind Windows.
What all platforms....? We are talking about SERIES X AND S.
Topher
Identifies as young
I'm saying that $80 billion generated wasn't just from SERIES X AND S.
Xbox Series generation helped make $80.8 billion for Microsoft
Microsoft has generated over $80 billion so far throughout the Xbox Series console generation, including game sales and subscriptions across all platforms.
www.tweaktown.com
I know what you're saying but that article claims the "series" generation, which is Series S and X and nothing else, helped make 80.8b. Then it proceeds to say "across all platforms" which makes no sense, first it seems they're talking about Series S/X specifically and proceed to vaguely refer to xbox ecosystem. Bullshit article.I'm saying that $80 billion generated wasn't just from SERIES X AND S.
Xbox Series generation helped make $80.8 billion for Microsoft
Microsoft has generated over $80 billion so far throughout the Xbox Series console generation, including game sales and subscriptions across all platforms.
Ogbert
Member
I have no idea why Spencer isn’t in Guantanamo.
In years to come, he will be studied as one of the truly great incompetents. The activision deal will mask how shit Xbox is.
Zero games of note. Middling console. An awful subscription service that serves up lukewarm dogshit.
Awful.
In years to come, he will be studied as one of the truly great incompetents. The activision deal will mask how shit Xbox is.
Zero games of note. Middling console. An awful subscription service that serves up lukewarm dogshit.
Awful.
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Woopah
Member
That's fair. I originally remembered the article saying that the Xbox Series generation helped MS Personal Computing making over $80 billion, but I just reread it and he is indeed saying that this generation helped MS Gaming specifically make that money (though he is including money made on PC and prhet consoles). So overall you are right.
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Topher
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Yeah, it is a bit clickbait-ish to highlight the consoles in that article title. Should have just said $80 billion across all platforms.
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Donald mac Ronald
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As Germany was surrounded on both sides by the allies and making fast gains in 1945. The German people still held belief in the Fuhrer's secret wonder weapons.
I'm seeing a similar trend here.
I'm seeing a similar trend here.
reinking
Gold Member
An example of mismanagement just occurred with Concord. Consumers said no and Sony had to change their strategy. I do not think Sony needs Xbox out there to be the big bad wolf to scare them into "being better." After all, "the mismanagement of 1st party" happened while Xbox consoles exist. People also like to leave out Nintendo. Nintendo is still there and still the most competition Sony will ever have in the console space regardless if any other company comes into the space.
ByWatterson
Member
In retrospect that does seem like a much wiser investment.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
In comparison, currently Sony's yearly budget for PlayStation is a little over 2 billion USD.
In Hindsight, Activision was a much larger and more successful company than Xbox division. And it was inevitable that the larger one would devour the smaller one. Xbox was counting on Activision eating PlayStation, but it ate Xbox instead.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Gamepass is going up in price?
It might have carried more weight if you hadn't yourself on multiple occasions tried bigging up PlayStation studios.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You spelled "you are 100% correct. I am sorry" wrong.
Woopah
Member
Doesn't work that way. One is CapEx and the other OpEx.
Those estimates don't include the UK.
GermanZepp
Member
It's all part of a plan
Doing a price drop without the actual manufacturing cost going down is suicide especially when software isn't selling well on your console.All these poor sales and still refuse to do a permanent price drop.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
The burial was at sea.
Isn't SeriesX really expensive to make and selling it at loss or that's not happening anymore? But at the same time, how low they can go when the problem is always the lack of incentives to get one, aka gamesAll these poor sales and still refuse to do a permanent price drop.
Ah, ok, so bad, but not that bad then
Jesb
Member
Take the loss and increase your gamepass base which is the goal anyway.
Maybe you don't remember Series S being as low as $150
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They change their "goal" every 2 years.
And here I was being serious...
Jesb
Member
They need a permanent price drop. Not a temporary price drop.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Microsoft can't afford it.
UniformDeliverance
Member
Microsoft doesn’t care about how many boxes they sell. They care about how much their gaming devision makes.
I see so many articles and takes about the system sales.. no one cares about that outside of fans. This isn’t a metric of success.
If Microsoft makes more money by being focused on software and subscription, then that’s what they care about. This isn’t about box sales. It’s about sales all up.
I don’t know how many times they have to tell you this.
I see so many articles and takes about the system sales.. no one cares about that outside of fans. This isn’t a metric of success.
If Microsoft makes more money by being focused on software and subscription, then that’s what they care about. This isn’t about box sales. It’s about sales all up.
I don’t know how many times they have to tell you this.
Klayzer
Member
Come on dude. You really don't believe that shit right?
Woopah
Member
If Xbox sales were high they absolutely would care since it would help them make way more money.
More hardware sales = more subscriptions + more third party royalties.
System sales aren't some standalone thing. They directly impact your other revenue streams.
As it is, the Xbox hardware sales are so low that they are better off transitioning to being a third party publisher.
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