rubik's dude
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Around what era? What specific games started the trend? Were they successful?
When did the woke trend start in gaming?
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Punished Miku
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2012 Kotaku / Gamasutra. Mostly started as just articles and pressure campaigns criticizing things like Catwoman in Arkham City. DOA6 started changing designs. Anita Sarkeesian videos. Took another 10 years for full blown projects to materialize with this stuff planned in from the beginning.
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Also Gamergate was the initial push back against it. Manifesting itself in various ways. Negatively in harassing developers, but I think the issue the GGers were concerned with was the coordinated effort in the gaming press to push their agenda and politics. But when you look it up they just say it was an online bullying campaign.
Killjoy-NL
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This.
It basically started with feminists complaining about tropes in gaming, but the real problem were the white-knights and male feminists that supported the feminists.
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diffusionx
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Got started with the overall political movement that started gaining steam in Obama's second term, but GamerGate kicked it off in a big way.
Use your brain and think and read instead of relying on a computer to tell you everything.
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Kenneth Haight
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violence
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After the word “big marker”, it’s all my own thoughts and words
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DirtInUrEye
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I remember reading piddly complaints about exposed midriffs in games. Enslaved was one.
PeteBull
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Mid ps4 u could feel big switch, and since games take solid few years to make, u can guess devs started to devolop those games early ps4/xbone gen.
It all happened graudually ofc, but by 2020 aka launch of TLOU2 i think it was in full force, we-gamers noticed that too.
U could clearly see females being uglified already by 2017 in ME:Andromeda but back then ppl still werent sure if its coz of devs lacking skills/competency or general woke agenda taking over, now ofc we know, hindsight 20/20
AC:Odyssey launched in oct 2018 and i think that is first woke AC game.
Edit: looks like i was wrong, just check intro warning msg change from unity to syndicate:
It all happened graudually ofc, but by 2020 aka launch of TLOU2 i think it was in full force, we-gamers noticed that too.
U could clearly see females being uglified already by 2017 in ME:Andromeda but back then ppl still werent sure if its coz of devs lacking skills/competency or general woke agenda taking over, now ofc we know, hindsight 20/20
AC:Odyssey launched in oct 2018 and i think that is first woke AC game.
Edit: looks like i was wrong, just check intro warning msg change from unity to syndicate:
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OLD NEW So let's get something straight. Assassin's Creed started out as a series that depicted some potentially (read: absolutely) offensive things when it came to religion, and religious figures, and also depicted cultures and history in a way some might take offense to. So the cop-out...
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DonkeyPunchJr
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I remember when Mass Effect 3 came out and everybody was pissed off about the endings, then EA started spamming the press with stories about how progressive they are and how they support gay marriage.
That was the first example I can think of where a publisher tried to use progressive virtue signaling to drown out criticism.
That was the first example I can think of where a publisher tried to use progressive virtue signaling to drown out criticism.
Nickolaidas
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Mortal Kombat X.
After IX portraying all females like strippers, you could feel something was restraining the devs in their designs. The anatomy was still feminine, but the outfits were tamer.
Now if you go and look MK 12 (1), women there have body types of boys. The Pokemon Go avatar *treatment*.
After IX portraying all females like strippers, you could feel something was restraining the devs in their designs. The anatomy was still feminine, but the outfits were tamer.
Now if you go and look MK 12 (1), women there have body types of boys. The Pokemon Go avatar *treatment*.
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TheRedRiders
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When our pampered first world incels ran out of things to complain about.
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N0S
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San Dan Glokta
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How Druckmann got away with funding a whole feminist approved fanfiction game for the stand-alone title The Last Of Us I don't know xDMid ps4 u could feel big switch, and since games take solid few years to make, u can guess devs started to devolop those games early ps4/xbone gen.
It all happened graudually ofc, but by 2020 aka launch of TLOU2 i think it was in full force, we-gamers noticed that too.
U could clearly see females being uglified already by 2017 in ME:Andromeda but back then ppl still werent sure if its coz of devs lacking skills/competency or general woke agenda taking over, now ofc we know, hindsight 20/20
AC:Odyssey launched in oct 2018 and i think that is first woke AC game.
He even released a prequel to his fanfiction called The Last Of Us: Part 1 lol, taking a page from George Lucas
ChorizoPicozo
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gaymergaite, feminists frequency where signs of an infiltration taking place.
I heard this story that once the community organizers managed to get gay marriage passed, they started aggressively focusing on the next thing which was transphobia and Un inclusive media. But since they already won with gay marriage and gay rights, they were seen as progressives and heroes. Making their next task go down quickly in corporate world.
The fact that LGB had to keep adding letters, was more about increasing revenue and keeping offices open.
The fact that LGB had to keep adding letters, was more about increasing revenue and keeping offices open.
Rudius
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That makes the PS360 the last unsullied era in gaming.
Hollowpoint5557
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Portugeezer
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When you couldn't call out Anita's bullshit without being associated with neckbeards.
PeteBull
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Most of 18-30yo guys are virgins or had no sex in a year, bro, men start at the bottom of the mountain, aka 0 sexual value, we gotta work hard to change that, its not a shame to be incel when u are young adult male, its actually perfectly normal.
Holammer
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I'd say 2016, that's when it hit the mainstream and became orthodoxy.
It started slowly in early 2010's with Occupy Wall Street when talk of odd concepts like the "progressive stack" started spreading, stuff originating from Tumblr. First reaction to the culture shifting was Gamergate in 2014 and the very public discussion about the 2015 Mizzou shit show.
Every generation needs to revolt and that's what happened in the early 2010s. Next time it happens it's probably kids thinking fascism is a good idea. Then it's once more, into the breach.
It started slowly in early 2010's with Occupy Wall Street when talk of odd concepts like the "progressive stack" started spreading, stuff originating from Tumblr. First reaction to the culture shifting was Gamergate in 2014 and the very public discussion about the 2015 Mizzou shit show.
Every generation needs to revolt and that's what happened in the early 2010s. Next time it happens it's probably kids thinking fascism is a good idea. Then it's once more, into the breach.
Nostalgic Nightmare
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Not really quite sure on the exact dates but the phases summarized
All of this is a result of hive-mind antics and mob capitulation - with a dash of narcissistic self-fellatio.
- Griftergate and the rise of the simps
- Perpetually offended people looking for any reason to get upset about anything in a game (or anything else in their lives) that doesn't line up with their ever-shifting morality narrative
- Narcissistic cult, brainwashed and emboldened by the + being added to the alphabet - now thinks their sexuality/identity is the #1 important component of a game (and everything else in their lives)
- Cult morphs to mob - starts looking for scalps - pressuring for deplatforming and outright firing of those who would dare try to bring in logical discussion or have a dissenting opinion
- Media, studios, & corporations, who spent years guilt-hiring and elevating narcissists and social grifters from said mob into prominent positions within their organizations are now held hostage by them
- Media, Movies, TV, Games and other content predicated on identity politics and sexuality are released in droves across the spectrum - people who don't consume or have valid criticisms are labeled bigots and told the content is "not for you"
- Aforementioned content starts to bomb across the spectrum - blame is shifted to consumers and narrative of "bad faith grifters"
- Companies that chose to ride on the side of the mob start to lose mass amounts of money & return on investments - studios shutter across the spectrum
- Victimhood tours and other PR recovery stunts are arranged at a final attempt to shame consumers for not consuming slop <-----------------We are here
All of this is a result of hive-mind antics and mob capitulation - with a dash of narcissistic self-fellatio.
MarV0
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The earliest I can personally remember was 2010 with Dragon Age II and that femcel game designer insulting the fanbase with sexist and male-bashing comments after it pushed back against her terrible takes.
I was super hyped for Dragon Age II after the excellent Dragon Age Origins. I remember watching this interview and being left really confused, it was a huge WTF moment for me.
The Dragon Age fanbase obviously lashed back at her like they would have done to any stupid male developer with the expected reaction from the media taking her side. Back then I thought the whole thing was a random fluke and I would have never ever imagined things spiralling so out of control.
I was super hyped for Dragon Age II after the excellent Dragon Age Origins. I remember watching this interview and being left really confused, it was a huge WTF moment for me.
The Dragon Age fanbase obviously lashed back at her like they would have done to any stupid male developer with the expected reaction from the media taking her side. Back then I thought the whole thing was a random fluke and I would have never ever imagined things spiralling so out of control.
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TheRedRiders
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This warrants a deeper discussion beyond the scope of this thread. I would say that being an incel mostly isn't a problem, but a symptom of a problem.
We're now living in an increasingly more isolated world, and this is only going to get worse going forward when we take into account the rapid advancements of technology. Most of us are glued to our screens, phones and games. The mass consumption of pornography is another massive problem, which many in our society are choosing to ignore and it's been directly responsible for de-incentivising young men to pursue real women and relationships (why face the the scary anxiety and possible embarrassment of speaking to women when you can just jack off all your emotional and sexual needs).
Yes it's incredibly hard for young men (myself included), but I think it's also dangerous to normalise the normal, as I said... this problem is only going to get worse going forward. 18 to 30 is our normal today (although this should be the case), tomorrow it'll be 18 to 35 and we'll have a generation of young angry and sexually frustrated men arguing online because their favourite animated character doesn't have big tits.
This is going to piss off a lot of people but call a spade a spade.
sharp weiner
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Ms pac man 1980
ChorizoPicozo
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ObservantApe
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PeteBull
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Its not that deep, bro, its simple- supply and demand- 18yo avg girl straight from highschool can easily accumulate 1k bodies in a year if she only desires, for the simple reason men(and i mean all men, 18-60yo, aka with functioning pp
look for youth, fertility, beauty in the females, we dont give a damn about her education, career, wealth, socioeconomic status, if she has confidence/ is funny/charismatic and so on.Women on the other hand ofc still care if man is tall/handsome/fit(so physical looks) but on top they prioritise his wealth/resources and status, they want him to be charismatic and funny too, most men have none of those qualities when they become adults, and must work for years, often decades to achieve that, hence at the starting line we got 0 sexual value, aka no way to get sex - hence we become involountary celibate
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Wolzard
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It all started in 2011, after Occupy Wall Street.
After the 2008 crisis and the American government helping the banks to save themselves, while millions were left unemployed, people revolted and began protesting against the bankers.
Then, mysteriously, the media started introducing diversity issues in a way that divided people and thus, the Occupy Wall Street movement was dismantled.
Schmendrick
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I´m not sure when it objectively started but for me personally it reached its first boiling point in 2017 when the purple place came to be after the Tyler thing. That was the first time I personally realized just how absolutely batshit crazy and downright fascistoid a large portion of social media people are.
If it wasn`t for neogaf and similar (mostly) unfiltered infohubs I´d have just wondered what happened and gradually stopped playing games alltogether after unknowingly diving into garbage like Spiderman2, DA:Veilguard, Concord etc. because the press seems to be largely on board with this crap.
Thanks for existing guys.
If it wasn`t for neogaf and similar (mostly) unfiltered infohubs I´d have just wondered what happened and gradually stopped playing games alltogether after unknowingly diving into garbage like Spiderman2, DA:Veilguard, Concord etc. because the press seems to be largely on board with this crap.
Thanks for existing guys.
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Boss Mog
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It started when BlackRock and other investment giants started investing in gaming companies. They then force those companies to raise their ESG score by pushing DEI. DEI within the games themselves but also within the hiring process of employees.
What's funny is that DEI is technically illegal since you're not allowed to discriminate based on stuff like skin color, gender or sexuality when hiring people but that's exactly what DEI is. But even funnier is that all the data shows that the group that overwhelmingly benefits the most out of DEI initiatives are white women.
What's funny is that DEI is technically illegal since you're not allowed to discriminate based on stuff like skin color, gender or sexuality when hiring people but that's exactly what DEI is. But even funnier is that all the data shows that the group that overwhelmingly benefits the most out of DEI initiatives are white women.
PeteBull
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On a positive thing, most of them(white women) age in dog years and its not even my statetement, but white female comedian's:
Madflavor
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Chuck Berry
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Around the end of 2013 and into 2014. Full swing started after Trump's first win. Got significantly worse during COVID/George Floyd. Hit peak insanity in '23.
samoilaaa
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i cant really define it but for me personally if the game has a situation like in Dragon age veilguard where a character sits at the table and says " im non binary and using they/them pronouns " , i consider the game woke
if the game points out the struggles of a minority ( racial , sexual etc. ) or how women are oppressed i consider it woke , example : Spider man 2 MJ boss fight , she constantly says how peter is thinking only of himself and because of him she couldnt pursue her dreams and he constantly apologizing
PeteBull
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Woke means forcing diversity, believing/spreading feminism lies that men and women are equal, hell sometimes even they say women are superior coz of x/y/z, and they give totally stupid reasons like "emotional inteligence" while every1 knows women are slaves to their emotions, not men, only men who are- are in a fucking jail, aka are criminals
In entertainment there is ofc more symptomes of wokeism, like encouraging women to do hoe behaviour of all kinds and strong objection for slut shaming, on the other side strong preference to uglify female game characters/cover them in gender neutral clothes.
Showing men/father figures as dumb, fat, stupid, lazy, aka doug from king of queens series or homer simpson , just as a 2 examples but ofc there is tons more.
And at the same time showing women as go getters, inteligent, smart, hard working, selfless, humble.
Showing white men as some kind of opressors/evil while showing ppl of colour/non straight ppl as an idolised version of pristine character who can do no wrong
Just a few things u gonna notice in all the woke entertainment nowadays and last decade or so.
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ShadyAcshuns
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I remember noticing it with that tranny reviewer on Gamespot, complaining about treatment of women in her GTA V review on PS3.
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diffusionx
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Marxist theories of class conflict applied to gender, race, and sexuality.
RafterXL
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It didn't "start" in gaming, it started everywhere. And it's been a 10-15 process of infecting every single aspect of our society and culture. That's why it's so ridiculous when people try about play it off like "it's just video games" or "it doesn't matter". It's so much bigger than video games, video games just happens to be one of the easiest, and most effective ways, to push this shit and indoctrinate kids. It's a massive take-over movement that hates everything about traditional Western life and values. Call it woke, call is suicidal empathy, call it it the great replacement, call it whatever you want, it's all the same thing. It's all linked.
Toons
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Woke means forcing diversity, believing/spreading feminism lies that men and women are equal, hell sometimes even they say women are superior coz of x/y/z, and they give totally stupid reasons like "emotional inteligence" while every1 knows women are slaves to their emotions, not men, only men who are- are in a fucking jail, aka are criminals
What game has said this?
By "hoe behavior" I assume you're referring to sexual promiscuity? But you are also decaying when women are not attractive in games or are covered up.
So you thing that a woman dressing provocatively and exuding sexual appeal is hoe behavior and woke, but also that covering up women in games or not playing up their sex appeal is also woke?
Showing men/father figures as dumb, fat, stupid, lazy, aka doug from king of queens series or homer simpson , just as a 2 examples but ofc there is tons more.
And at the same time showing women as go getters, inteligent, smart, hard working, selfless, humble.
Showing white men as some kind of opressors/evil while showing ppl of colour/non straight ppl as an idolised version of pristine character who can do no wrong
Just a few things u gonna notice in all the woke entertainment nowadays and last decade or so.
All of these things listed are much older than a decade. In fact, both of those examples you listed go back well over a decade.
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