Skeletor Reviews the PS5 pro

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How long can this wave of negativity last? I wonder how many people would be up for buying one if everyone was being enthusiastic about it.

Most of what I've seen has been quite negative since the reveal. I wonder if Sony have a flop on their hands.
 
Yes. You will eat crow.
Why would I eat crow either way? For a start, what do you consider to be a flop? What does Sony consider to be a flop? These mid gen machines aren't costly to R&D, nor are they costly to market as they are all naturally part of Sonys R&D for next gen (PSSR development for example) and they would be marketing PS5 anyway. They could sell 2 million of these and still make a profit (not even counting the number of drives they sell, additional controllers, PS+ subs, additional games). It even shares some components with the slim.
 
How long can this wave of negativity last? I wonder how many people would be up for buying one if everyone was being enthusiastic about it.

Most of what I've seen has been quite negative since the reveal. I wonder if Sony have a flop on their hands.
It will sell out through the holidays. Come January 2025, when everyone is more broke than we already are? Crickets...
 
Why would I eat crow either way? For a start, what do you consider to be a flop? What does Sony consider to be a flop? These mid gen machines aren't costly to R&D, nor are they costly to market as they are all naturally part of Sonys R&D for next gen (PSSR development for example) and they would be marketing PS5 anyway. They could sell 2 million of these and still make a profit (not even counting the number of drives they sell, additional controllers, PS+ subs, additional games). It even shares some components with the slim.

There is already someone who is going yo eat something if this thing sells over 8 millions. You could join that bet…

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Might not be on the top of most people's agenda when energy prices get jacked in winter

I doubt most people are swimming in money even before that 🤷‍♂️
Doesn't mean it will flop, there are plenty of people out there with money also. This console is for those who either waited for the Pro or want an upgrade to their PS5 and can afford to do so, it's not expected to replace and outsell the PS5.

Even funnier is those that say you don't need a PS5 Pro, get a PC instead... Which is even more expensive for similar power
 
Yeah, trouble is, its basically the whole "joke", and in this instance that also applies to every PC GPU at mid-range or above on the market!
Now you are exaggerating. They made fun of the price, that it's unnecessary, fanboys blindly buying it, no games, the design, no noticable differences to Ps5, no disc drive, no stand and maybe more i already forgot.
 
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Doesn't mean it will flop, there are plenty of people out there with money also. This console is for those who either waited for the Pro or want an upgrade to their PS5 and can afford to do so, it's not expected to replace and outsell the PS5.

Even funnier is those that say you don't need a PS5 Pro, get a PC instead... Which is even more expensive for similar power
I'm just saying it's a massive factor to quite a few that would have no doubt budged the numbers up. I was thinking about grabbing one on release as I do with all new consoles but I just can't justify it to be honest. Not out of being broke but more of a principle matter

It's a tad bullshit you don't even get a stand, or drive :messenger_tears_of_joy:

It'll be the first time I miss a new console release in around 40 odd years. I'll be hanging back on this one and see what the Switch 2 offers

It'll be scalped, no doubt though.
 
Here's one: OVER-FUCKING-PRICED.
So is the iPhone Pro, doesn't mean it will flop. In fact, All things considered (hardware inside, inflation, not subsidised) it's around the price I thought it would be (possibly that price with drive and that would have probably softened the blow a bit for some)

Doesn't mean I'll get one, I didn't get PS4 Pro either, but this isn't about whether you or I will buy one, people will, it won't flop.

(Remember when people said Portal will flop, no-one will buy one....)
 
So is the iPhone Pro, doesn't mean it will flop. In fact, All things considered (hardware inside, inflation, not subsidised) it's around the price I thought it would be (possibly that price with drive and that would have probably softened the blow a bit for some)

Doesn't mean I'll get one, I didn't get PS4 Pro either, but this isn't about whether you or I will buy one, people will, it won't flop.

(Remember when people said Portal will flop, no-one will buy one....)

Let's just wait for the numbers. I expect all 10 of you to buy it.

Also, the 16 PRO won't sell well either versus the last gen. Diminishing returns for idiots who will.

Imagine paying $700 for 5 exclusives for 1st Party:

- Astrobot
- Playroom
- Spiderman 2 (will come to PC)
- Demon's Souls
- Destruction All-Stars

3rd Party Worth Playing?

- Rise of Ronin (will come to PC)
- Stellar Blade (will come to PC)
 
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Let's just wait for the numbers. I expect all 10 of you to buy it.

Also, the 16 PRO won't sell well either versus the last gen. Diminishing returns for idiots who will.

Imagine paying $700 for 3 exclusives for 1st Party:

- Astrobot
- Playroom
- Spiderman 2 (will come to PC)
Funny you mention PC, since people upgrade to the next diminishing return with no exclusives playing their same games the card prior.
 
Funny you mention PC, since people upgrade to the next diminishing return with no exclusives playing their same games the card prior.

PC has a few exclusives, no one cares about exclusives on PC while Consoles are predicated on a closed walled garden offering 1st party to entice players to buy the consoles. Apples =/= Oranges.

Also, gonna break your delusional myth about upgrades. On Steam Hardware Survey - August 2024 (Rounded)

RTX 4070 (at 12th Place) - 2.50%
RTX 4090 (at 29th Place) - 1%
RTX 4080 (at 34th Place) - .75%

Overall Install Base - 4.25%

And yea, if you add the 4070 Super to Ti. Overall its 5%.

UPRGAEDZ!!!
 
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PC has a few exclusives, no one cares about exclusives on PC while Consoles are predicated on a closed walled garden offering 1st party to entice players to buy the consoles. Apples =/= Oranges.

Also, gonna break your delusional myth about upgrades. On Steam Hardware Survey - August 2024

RTX 4070 (at 12th Place) - 2.52%
RTX 4090 (at 29th Place) - 1%
RTX 4080 (at 34th Place) - .75%

Overall Install Base - 4.25%

UPRGAEDZ!!!
You didn't break anything. These are stats that have been shared ad nauseam here. The speaking out of both sides of the mouth when it comes to likes and dislikes are where the parallels get cute.
 
You didn't break anything. These are stats that have been shared ad nauseam here. The speaking out of both sides of the mouth when it comes to likes and dislikes are where the parallels get cute.

Good, so it confirms my suspicions of your peak delusion or logic about exclusives. You know what is true, yet you still seem to look the other way, that's the fun part.
 
Good, so it confirms my suspicions of your peak delusion or logic about exclusives. You know what is true, yet you still seem to look the other way, that's the fun part.
I never denied any of that, just presented that the parallels are converging and it makes some uncomfrotable. It's all subjective on the value side in the end, really.
 
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Let's just wait for the numbers. I expect all 10 of you to buy it.

Also, the 16 PRO won't sell well either versus the last gen. Diminishing returns for idiots who will.

Imagine paying $700 for 5 exclusives for 1st Party:

- Astrobot
- Playroom
- Spiderman 2 (will come to PC)
- Demon's Souls
- Destruction All-Stars

3rd Party Worth Playing?

- Rise of Ronin (will come to PC)
- Stellar Blade (will come to PC)
You still haven't answered one very simple question so that I know where you are coming from.... What do YOU consider a flop? 100,000? 500,000? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? 10,000,000? 100,000,000?

(And the 16 Pro not selling as well as last gen, again, does not make it a flop unless Apple have come out and said it will be a flop unless it sells more than last gen)
 
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