BioWare: Dragon Age 3 "looks stunningly beautiful", "people won't be disappointed"

What are the chances that the PC version isn't a direct console port, with unneeded multiplayer and microtransactions to boot.

Very skeptical of all EA games now.
 
Very sceptical about this. Looking how other developers using the Frostbite 2 engine with not enough time and getting forced by EA to work harder in a small time frame even with this game has a bit more time then the shitmountain called DA2. Look at NFS The Run and MoH Warfighter same goes for the new really dumb move from EA to make C&C F2P.

Those guys had never enough time to learn the new engine and benefit what can be done to improve it. DICE knows the engine better since they made it off course. Playing aftermath showed how well dice is with the engine on this stage and making better overall even with BF4 on the horizon.

What do you are talking about? NFS & MoH run quite well :\ On ps3 MoH is even full vsyncred.
 
Dragon Age 3 may indeed look good; we'll see. They have the Frostbite 2 engine and the talent. DA2's crap graphics were a result of rushing and laziness.

However, I suspect that The Witcher 3 will crush DA3 visually - both technically and artistically.
 
What do you are talking about? NFS & MoH run quite well :\

Not really,when you have a engine like that and that doesn't benefit for PC. I played NFS The Run and it plays horrible. You want 60fps? You need to turn off Vsync. And absolute joke and constant stuttering and framedrops. Because in there FAQ they said from what i remember why is the pc version running at 30fps? There where like because it was intented to do so. And to me it is horrible optimized for PC.

Same thing with MoH Warfighter,where is my FoV slider? Oh wait there isn't any. The graphics where meh they looked okay but again DICE does better work for PC.
 
With DA3 using Frostbite 2 I have a good feeling that it will look much better visually. Although, try a new art style please, DA2's was fugly. Also, I hope they don't make the mistake of rushing this one out the door like they did with DA2 and ME3.
 
Arrg. This topic made me look at the Wikia. Which means I now see there's a Dark Horse comic series, a CG movie and another novel since the last time I bathed in DA lore. And I never did quite finish DA2. You keep sucking me back in, BW, despite your shoddy games.
 
noone gives a fuck about how beautiful it will look, Bioware. Let's just make a decent game this time since DA2 was a smelly piece of rotten arse
 
Not really,when you have a engine like that and that doesn't benefit for PC. I played NFS The Run and it plays horrible. You want 60fps? You need to turn off Vsync. And absolute joke and constant stuttering and framedrops. Because in there FAQ they said from what i remember why is the pc version running at 30fps? There where like because it was intented to do so. And to me it is horrible optimized for PC.

Same thing with MoH Warfighter,where is my FoV slider? Oh wait there isn't any. The graphics where meh they looked okay but again DICE does better work for PC.

Oh but you talking of PC version. Well, it's not matter of bad knowledge of the engine there, they simply screw pc port, like many others because don't give enough revenue, it's a complete different situation.
 
If they comparing it to past DA games then yeah it would look good but if they comparing to Witcher 2 and saying that then I wonder

Still fix damn gameplay first
 
They removed the controller support in the PC versions of DA1 and DA2. :( (That said I doubt they'd remove mp in the PC version, because of the microtransactions.)

DA 1 had the isometric mode which didn't exist on consoles, it was very much built as a PC game, i don't think "removed" is really fair to say here.
 
I suspect the heavy hand of EA is behind a lot of Bioware's recent muck-ups, but I still can't get excited for a new Dragon Age. Origins is one of my favourite games of all time, the come-down with Dragon Age 2 was so huge that it has destroyed any enthusiasm I had for the series. I'll keep an eye out on new developments and will likely end up getting it in the end, but still... no enthusiasm on my end.
 
Dragon Age 1's graphics were not the main appeal/draw for that game; in fact, the game was fairly fugly.

They have no idea what Dragon Age fans want, huh?
 
DA 1 had the isometric mode which didn't exist on consoles, it was very much built as a PC game, i don't think "removed" is really fair to say here.

DA1 was also developed as a PC game and then ported to the consoles, as opposed to DA2 which was developed as a console game first.
 
I don't believe anything Bioware says.

Not to say they don't make good games, but they over sell everything WAY too much.
 
DA 1 had the isometric mode which didn't exist on consoles, it was very much built as a PC game, i don't think "removed" is really fair to say here.

You're correct, of course, sorry about that. It would have been nice if they could have included a controller set up for DA 1, assuming that would have been possible. The fact that they removed controller support from DA2, and from the PC versions of the Mass Effect games, has always puzzled and annoyed me, however. Why limit the options available to the people you want to play your game? I would have happily double-dipped and purchased DA2 and all the ME games on the PC if they would have only kept in the controller support available in the console versions. (The only reason I have DA2 and ME2 on my Origin account at all is because of the coupon giveaway earlier this year. If you're wondering why I prefer controller support on my PC games, for those games where it's possible, it's because I spend 10-12 hours behind a keyboard a day at work. When I play at home I really prefer doing it with a control setup that doesn't mandate that my hands be on a keyboard.)
 
I don't understand this sentiment of Dragon Age II looking ugly. It certainly wasn't uglier compared to Origins. Not only I was ok with DA2's art style, I even thought much of the story beats were good as the story was much more personal and character focused. The only disappointing part was lack of environmental variation.

Looking forward to DA3.
 
I don't understand this sentiment of Dragon Age II looking ugly. It certainly wasn't uglier compared to Origins. Not only I was ok with DA2's art style, I even thought much of the story beats were good as the story was much more personal and character focused. The only disappointing part was lack of environmental variation.

Looking forward to DA3.

The Hurlocks looked like the Putty Patrol from Power Rangers.

That's my major complaint. They looked generic in DA:O, but then Bioware managed to make them look even MORE generic in DA2.
 
The Hurlocks looked like the Putty Patrol from Power Rangers.

That's my major complaint. They looked generic in DA:O, but then Bioware managed to make them look even MORE generic in DA2.

While not amazing by any means, I feel the base concept art/renderings had a better idea than the game managed to realize:

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The three steps of deception :

1 - WOW guys, the game is unbelivable stunning in terms of graphics
2 - Bull shots release (running at 4k, max AA and effects no seen in the actual game)
3 - First review is a gorefest of low res textures and aliasing everywhere

(Shitstorm is formed)

4 - Apeshit reaction of the community.

But i hope im wrong.
 
I'm actually quite excited to see an RPG running on Frostbite. And a fantasy game at that. We've seen enough dust and brown from Frostbite, it's time for something new.

Wish I could see your reaction when a good 10 hours of the game is spent in the Deep Roads/otherwise brown and dusty caverns.
 
Bedlam said:
I like a subdued color palette and a harsh brown feel in my games and I never really understood against the hate against such stylistic choices. The Gears games, for example, became visually way less interesting and more generic looking the more colorful the games became.

I don't mind that so much when the game's aesthetic design requires it (see GearsOW, resistance etc...), and I think that your opinion seeing as how the game was originally designed. But, I disagree with your Gears assertion, I think a little color actually went a long way for this series.
 
noone gives a fuck about how beautiful it will look, Bioware. Let's just make a decent game this time since DA2 was a smelly piece of rotten arse

Dragon Age 1's graphics were not the main appeal/draw for that game; in fact, the game was fairly fugly.

They have no idea what Dragon Age fans want, huh?
Pretty much this.

I don't think making the game look better is really an affront to people who liked Dragon Age 1, but I could be wrong.
That's not the point. The point is that looking ugly, beautiful or whatever has nothing to do with people disappointment with the franchise. They can show the apex of beauty in modern video game when the screenshots starts to pop, but people will still be disappointed if BW don't get their shit together when it comes to gameplay, characters, possibilities, interactions... you know, things that really matter.
 
That's not the point. The point is that looking ugly, beautiful or whatever has nothing to do with people disappointment with the franchise. They can show the apex of beauty in modern video game when the screenshots starts to pop, but people will still be disappointed if BW don't get their shit together when it comes to gameplay, characters, possibilities, interactions... you know, things that really matter.

He's the director of art and animation.

What did you expect him to talk about on an unrevealed product?
 
The three steps of deception :

1 - WOW guys, the game is unbelivable stunning in terms of graphics
2 - Bull shots release (running at 4k, max AA and effects no seen in the actual game)
3 - First review is a gorefest of low res textures and aliasing everywhere

(Shitstorm is formed)

4 - Apeshit reaction of the community.

But i hope im wrong.

Dragon Age 2 broke this cycle by reversing it, removing step 1 (which is now step 3), and then adding step 4 to all the steps.
 
He's the director of art and animation.

What did you expect him to talk about on an unrevealed product?

I'm not dismissing what he said as false (perhaps completely irrelevant), just stating that the fans are not frustrated with the graphics of the game and nothing in that front will make them satisfied or "not disappointed".

Not that gorgeous scenery or well modeled characters isn't a good thing, but at this point, it's at the botton of my list of priorities related to what I expect them to show in order not to disappoint me.
 
I'm not dismissing what he said as false (perhaps completely irrelevant), just stating that the fans are not frustrated with the graphics of the game and nothing in that front will make them satisfied or "not disappointed".

Not that gorgeous scenery or well modeled characters isn't a good thing, but at this point, it's at the botton of my list of priorities related to what I expect them to show in order not to disappoint me.

The disappointment comment is in the context of the graphics though:

"There was a pre-production period where almost on a weekly basis I'd be sitting in the environment reviews and being blown away by what was coming out - it looks stunningly beautiful. So I think when we do start releasing screenshots, people won't be disappointed."
 
The disappointment comment is in the context of the graphics though:

"There was a pre-production period where almost on a weekly basis I'd be sitting in the environment reviews and being blown away by what was coming out - it looks stunningly beautiful. So I think when we do start releasing screenshots, people won't be disappointed."

I know, I know. Although, even if they show piss poor screens, I can't really see people going all "OMG, this looks so fugly, DA3 is dead and I'm so disappointed"

But don't mind me, as I said, I'm at the point where this declaration is just irrelevant and frustrating not to adress what I really wanna know about the franchise.
 
Graphics, big whoop. Is it going to be more like DA1 or DA2.

That's what I want to know. I came into Dragon Age late. I played 2 first and thought it was a decent game, then I played Origins and said to myself "what happened?"

Origins is such a superior game. Here's hoping for a return to form.
 
I suspect the heavy hand of EA is behind a lot of Bioware's recent muck-ups, but I still can't get excited for a new Dragon Age.

With rumours about how Hudson handled ME3 - nah, I would put my money on Bioware being talentless hacks. Same with Blizzard - people are happy to blame Activision, but in my opinion D3 design decisions were made at Blizzard.
 
At least they are trying to avoid another Shit Mountain type situation.

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Put a bikini on whoever that is in the middle, add some kind of grilled meat and a mug of beer at the top of the screen and this should be the national man flag.
 
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