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[Complistic]

 

[Ceadeus]

I can already imagine the next asmon video about this in my mind

I can imagine his eyebrows moving like catterpillar

 

[Kurotri]

Guys, in the end we fired those people by not buying the game.

This is on us.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

 

[BbMajor7th]

That's unfortunate. Outside of Taash, the writing has been pretty good for vanguard. A few of the char stories have been really good.....

Honestly, I couldn't disagree more. The moment-to-moment writing is miserable. None of these characters speak like actual people talk in real life. It's nails-on-the-chalkboard bad, with no nuance or finesse, no interpersonal conflict, no thematic complexity. It's just empty, soulless guff.

 

[Kronark]

Some of the comments in here are wild. We want artists to express themselves. No one would give a shit about Kojima's games if he was just trying to emulate Call of Duty instead of self inserting his weird ideas / interests. That isn't the problem here.

The problem here is that Bioware has been a mid ass developer for more than 20 years and no one seemed to realize it. The Mass Effect games are kinda shit, hate to tell you. KotoR was the last decent thing Bioware made.

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

That's unfortunate. Outside of Taash, the writing has been pretty good for vanguard. A few of the char stories have been really good.....

I’ve seen videos of the interactions between your party members and the writing seems like it belongs on Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood. Like this shit:

 

[viveks86]

EA cleaning house

Naturally! The question is, who is taking their place?

 

[PeteBull]

No amount of woke agenda can survive when publishers notice it loses them all their money, we just gotta keep doing good work by not buying those shitty games and evil gonna get defeated sooner rather than later

 

[Flabagast]

I’ve seen videos of the interactions between your party members and the writing seems like it belongs on Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood. Like this shit:

This is atrocious, I don't know what is worse between this and Andromeda.

Don't know how anyone thought this would fly, specially now that several other big RPG studios (CDPR, Larian, Warhorse) have really upped the game regarding what we should expect in terms of complex and layered writing in AAA RPGs

 

[Tajaz2426]

Me thinks the pronouns in a bio should have been the first God Damn clue for the company not to hire them.

 

[RagnarokIV]

 

[Schmendrick]

Do we know who wrote that Taash(?) abomination?

 

[Interfectum]

 

[GymWolf]

Do we know who wrote that Taash(?) abomination?

Probably the dude with a wig that was fired left a week ago, bush or busque or something.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

 

[Kacho]

Do we know who wrote that Taash(?) abomination?

Patrick Weekes

 

[Complistic]

Naturally! The question is, who is taking their place?

I actually played all of veilguard, and can confidently say it would be difficult to do a worse job (writing).

 

[kiphalfton]

Pronoun twats on the dole

The retarded quirkiness is an attempt to hide how weird, boring, gross, etc. they are.

At the end of the day they're social outcasts, but try to force their way into everybody's periphery.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

I don’t like seeing people lose their jobs but EA needs to do some serious house cleaning if they want the next Mass Effect to be remotely good. They need to fire everyone that was responsible for DA: Veilguard being a piece of shit. I doubt they actually fire all the true culprits behind that flop but I guess this may be a good start. Activism and shitty writing have no place in gaming especially in the AAA RPG space.

 

[ElFenomeno]

Oh no...

 

[viveks86]

I actually played all of veilguard, and can confidently say it would be difficult to do a worse job (writing).

I feel your pain. But when it comes to writing, that pit is bottomless. I really can't tell if the only way from here is up :/

 

[Denton]

I am losing count of all those rare incel victories

 

[Complistic]

I feel your pain. But when it comes to writing, that pit is bottomless. I really can't tell if the only way from here is up :/

That's true, this is EA after all lol.

 

[Roberts]

Who would have though self-inserting yourself and your fetishes into a game would end badly?

That is literally what every writer has always done, intentionally or otherwise.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Dragon Age Day just won’t be the same anymore.

 

[MetalFreak]

Jason Schreier right now:

 

[touchfuzzy]

Bioware entirely really hung on by a thread after this one. I will be legitimately surprised if we ever see another game from them, probably just do dome pre-production work on Mass Effect for a year or two before it's cancelled or moved to another dev and they're shut for good.

 

[justiceiro]

Damn, 20 years some people have been there.

 

[VenomousCoffee]

Some people need to learn that a good story emerges from the specifics of the characters, the setting, etc. It can involve people of all sorts of different backgrounds and identities, but a good story does not focus on their *being* that identity. That's just lecturing, which is always bad writing.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Some of the comments in here are wild. We want artists to express themselves. No one would give a shit about Kojima's games if he was just trying to emulate Call of Duty instead of self inserting his weird ideas / interests. That isn't the problem here.

The problem here is that Bioware has been a mid ass developer for more than 20 years and no one seemed to realize it. The Mass Effect games are kinda shit, hate to tell you. KotoR was the last decent thing Bioware made.

How about doing that in a new IP instead of leeching on a beloved franchise to fool people into buying something that otherwise wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole?

We all know the answer.

 

[Last Hearth]

This person.. looks like she's 70.

And the same last name as the other guy, nepotism?

 

[samoilaaa]

CDPR right now

after hiring writer from insomniac they need a few more talented professionals

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Some people need to learn that a good story emerges from the specifics of the characters, the setting, etc. It can involve people of all sorts of different backgrounds and identities, but a good story does not focus on their *being* that identity. That's just lecturing, which is always bad writing.

The DEI folks ended up hurting the people they tried to champion.

Used to be that games had a lot of diversity, gay/straight romance options etc and everyone was cool with it. But they pushed this shit SO SO hard with lecturing their audience and portraying “marginalized” identities in the most positive, stereotype-defying, boring + trite way possible, to the point where people are now avoiding anything with the slightest whiff of forced diversity to it.

Way to go dipshits, you played yourself.

 

[Guntherlibby]

Man these last few weeks have been glorious.

So much winning.

God bless America.

 

[Windle Poons]

Dragon Age Day just won’t be the same anymore.

I read that as titify.

I'm sorry.

 

[viveks86]

but a good story does not focus on their *being* that identity.

A good story could be that too. There are fantastic movies and books focused entirely on identity and the trials and tribulations around it. You can make a good story out of literally anything, if you are a good writer and have actual inspiration. It really comes down to talent or the lack thereof.

 

[Last Hearth]

Some of the comments in here are wild. We want artists to express themselves. No one would give a shit about Kojima's games if he was just trying to emulate Call of Duty instead of self inserting his weird ideas / interests. That isn't the problem here.

The problem here is that Bioware has been a mid ass developer for more than 20 years and no one seemed to realize it. The Mass Effect games are kinda shit, hate to tell you. KotoR was the last decent thing Bioware made.

So now it's the "It's not that Veilguard and Andromeda were trash, Origins and Mass Effect were trash too" cope, have to admit that's a new one.

 

[Fake]

This is on us.

 

[mckmas8808]

Pronoun twats on the dole

While I think pronouns aren't a horrible thing at all, blow-back was bound to happen at some point. There's really no reason for a cis-gender person to put their pronouns in their Bio.

 

[Hookshot]

Dragon Age Day just won’t be the same anymore.

American spelling is so weird to us in the UK.

It's spelt "Autistic" over here.

 

[Gamezone]

Good.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Management: We’re going to have to let you go.
Mentally ill: But why?
Management: Gamers have spoken.

 

[viveks86]

Some of the comments in here are wild. We want artists to express themselves. No one would give a shit about Kojima's games if he was just trying to emulate Call of Duty instead of self inserting his weird ideas / interests. That isn't the problem here.

The problem here is that Bioware has been a mid ass developer for more than 20 years and no one seemed to realize it. The Mass Effect games are kinda shit, hate to tell you. KotoR was the last decent thing Bioware made.

Wait... Mass Effect 2 was shit? I don't even...

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

While I think pronouns aren't a horrible thing at all, blow-back was bound to happen at some point. There's really no reason for a cis-gender person to put their pronouns in their Bio.

Yeah I dunno. I think the vast majority normal people dress/act/present themselves in a way that clearly advertises their gender and they don’t want to have to explicitly tell others what gender they are. And they don’t want others to treat them like their gender is some complete mystery until they are told otherwise.

If you have some specific way that you want people to address you then fine. But I always thought it was totally nuts to make this like the default way that people are supposed to greet each other.

 

[Reaseru]

I think this practically proves the trannie that directed the game was also laid off a few weeks ago, and didn't leave Bioware at her own initiative.

 

[Peroroncino]

CDPR right now

after hiring writer from insomniac they need a few more talented professionals

they should look elsewhere lol

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I think this practically proves the trannie that directed the game was also laid off a few weeks ago, and didn't leave Bioware at her own initiative.

He/she was pushed out. I’d bet any money Corrine bushe knew months ago but EA gave extra time to smooth things out. Also claimed she left to work on a dream RPG at another company. So any day now, their LinkedIn profile should be updated when and where the new company is.

There was also another one (I forget who) who left in December too. Basically a lot of legacy BioWare people are getting gutted.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

He/she was pushed out. I’d bet any money Corrine bushe knew months ago but EA gave extra time to smooth things out. Also claimed she left to work on a dream RPG at another company. So any day now, their LinkedIn profile should be updated when and where the new company is.

There was also another one (I forget who) who left in December too. Basically a lot of legacy BioWare people are getting gutted.

Yeah 100% she was asked to resign. She didn’t just coincidentally happen to find a new job a few days before EA announced they missed sales targets by 50% and studio reorganization/layoffs.