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[The_Observer]

I love seeing these developments everywhere. So many years of having to deal with this bullshit but finally the world is awakening. And this is MUCH MUCH bigger than just gaming.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

gaming media in absolute shambles

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

This is good news as it will allow cod/fortnite ect.. to maintain dominance vs other publishers that may see reductions in their ecosystem. The real question is who dominates the future of gaming east or west.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

gaming media in absolute shambles

I love when game devs and media bicker at each other on social media. A full circle of hilarity is when employees go after employees.

 

[Party McHardy]

Chud is the dumbest name ever.

Everybody is losing. Worldwide.

 

[RayHell]

Chuds and wokes are 2 kinds of mentality ill extremist. Normal people who's the silent majority just want to play good games.

 

[TheKratos]

Companies only see money, if DEI games keep bringing money they will keep doing it, that's all (you can blame Blackrock for it)

If they only saw money DEI games would not exist at all. Clearly there are other motives than money.

 

[rofif]

So does everyone else, I know some can go overboard with on the internet
But

How do you think "woke" people see this
Not anti-woke?
They see as you complaining and tarnish you with the same brush.
There is no "I don’t have a dog in the fight" if you choose not to buy something because of it.
If you didn't care you would buy the stuff with woke stuff in them and enjoy them regardless.
Just like rofif

You're Anti-woke, but you're just not vocal about it, and that's okay

Depends. I don't really buy woke stuff and enjoy it regardless. or do I?
I don't consider tlou2 woke
Forspoken is not woke at all.
Hogwarts is not woke (maybe a bit)
Game that is woke and it really dragged it down for me was GOW Ragnarok. That game is so woke it's not even funny

 

[TGO]

Depends. I don't really buy woke stuff and enjoy it regardless. or do I?
I don't consider tlou2 woke
Forspoken is not woke at all.
Hogwarts is not woke (maybe a bit)
Game that is woke and it really dragged it down for me was GOW Ragnarok. That game is so woke it's not even funny

You enjoy your games regardless, that good
Although I'm a bit confused by Ragnarok comment, maybe I missed it or didn't get that far..

 

[Giallo Corsa]

You enjoy your games regardless, that good
Although I'm a bit confused by Ragnarok comment, maybe I missed it or didn't get that far..

Angrboda and magical, African- American elf...

 

[TGO]

Angrboda and magical black elf

Ironically that didn't bother me much, but I wasn't ignorant to the choice behind it.

 

[nemiroff]

Chuds or wokes, same bullshit to me.

 

[delirium trigger]

Sony Playstation developers

Never trust a man with fingerless gloves on.

 

[rofif]

You enjoy your games regardless, that good
Although I'm a bit confused by Ragnarok comment, maybe I missed it or didn't get that far..

Ragnarok is weird. It plays fine but is kinda bloated and too big.
As for the woke stuff, it's just that I really disliked Atreus sections, Angrboda sections, Thor daughter sections...
I just want to be badass Kratos and they neutered him too. He feels weak

 

[Kiya's Guard]

Don't blame the devs, blame the suits in charge

 

[Honey Bunny]

gaming media in absolute shambles

Lmao now they know how we felt about their left wing shit for years

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Ironically that didn't bother me much, but I wasn't ignorant to the choice behind it.

Exactly brother, it's not the result but the "why"...

Anyway, those weren't the game's biggest problems, it was the incessant padding, terribad, 'Murrican, Marvel-like brainrot writing and the - generally speaking - "made by a committee" feeling the game had.

Cheers

 

[TGO]

Exactly brother, it's not the result but the "why"...

Anyway, those weren't the game's biggest problems, it was the incessant padding, terribad, 'Murrican, Marvel-like brainrot writing and the - generally speaking - "made by a committee" feeling the game had.

Cheers

Probably why I strayed from finishing it

 

[delirium trigger]

Lmao now they know how we felt about their left wing shit for years

Think of all the superficial people who hopped on the woke bandwagon just to look cool. Now they all just look kinda gay.

 

[GigaBowser]

Chuds and wokes are 2 kinds of mentality ill extremist. Normal people who's the silent majority just want to play good games.

woked games are crud

 

[Mozzarella]

2025 is shaping up to be a year of change, no joke. I started smelling the change in later 2023 and it has been steadily growing, ofcourse this is dismissive to actual small changes that started out in 2015+ but im saying the moment it started to go really mainstream was in 2023 and i have some guess as to why but i can't prove any of them so i won't share.

 

[GigaBowser]

 

[cormack12]

It's really simple. DEI led to

gaming media in absolute shambles

These people need to learn punctuation. He's calling the bro his God.

 

[Inviusx]

What was woke about Star Wars Outlaws? I've been playing it a lot and I'm not sure what's woke about it?

 

[Kotaro]

Angrboda and magical, African- American elf...

yup, black viking, race-swapping bullshit, that's just so stupid,

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

what's this chud crap, i'm a chad

The Op Should say Chads are winning!

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

gaming media in absolute shambles

Interestingly stuff like this and Zuckertron's Elon Musk larp would almost certainly not be happening if November went the other way

 

[adamsapple]

What was woke about Star Wars Outlaws? I've been playing it a lot and I'm not sure what's woke about it?

Some folks don't like the MC.

 

[Crayon]

What was woke about Star Wars Outlaws? I've been playing it a lot and I'm not sure what's woke about it?

MC has sharp knees.

 

[Guilty_AI]

What was woke about Star Wars Outlaws? I've been playing it a lot and I'm not sure what's woke about it?

Rather than woke, most people complaining just consider it half-baked.

 

[Bernardougf]

If I wasn't so lazy today, I would do a meme.

This is how we imagine lesbians to look (obviously two hot porn girls)

This is how lesbians actually look like (her face and the Intergalactic baldie)

I got you

 

[Alex Anderson]

I'll be so glad when half the topics on this board aren't about this shit.

 

[Bernardougf]

So many complaining about this threads .. EviLore should put an "ignore thread" option so people can see only threads they want.



Oh wait.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Woke got to the point where it’s integrated into modern culture, first of all gaming now is all customization (Fortnite, create a character etc.) second people out side of gaming perceive it as stress relief, good fun etc. I think there’s a certain disconnect from developers to gamers that’s true OP.

 

[Raven117]

Companies only see money, if DEI games keep bringing money they will keep doing it, that's all (you can blame Blackrock for it)

There was a recent Court case out of the Northern District of Texas federal court that sued (I believe it was the American Airline pension) for investing in “ESG” as that is a big push of Blackrock (and May have managed the fund).

Either way, the point is that there is growing case law that says if you don’t maximize profits as consistent with your fiduciary duty and instead do things that are not as profitable (ESG) then you can be sued.

This is serious tide Turning

 

[Bernardougf]

There was a recent Court case out of the Northern District of Texas federal court that sued (I believe it was the American Airline pension) for investing in “ESG” as that is a big push of Blackrock (and May have managed the fund).

Either way, the point is that there is growing case law that says if you don’t maximize profits as consistent with your fiduciary duty and instead do things that are not as profitable (ESG) then you can be sued.

This is serious tide Turning

The burning of money in a capitalist world sometime would have to end. Several businesses are dialing down or simple closing their "forced dei" programs... and probably returning to the good old common sense and human decency for inclusion.

Hiring and promoting only by merit and maximizing businesses by focusing your product only to the right target demographic you choose. Its not rocket science really.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Chuds and wokes are 2 kinds of mentality ill extremist. Normal people who's the silent majority just want to play good games.

I agree.

 

[existensmaximum]

Interestingly stuff like this and Zuckertron's Elon Musk larp would almost certainly not be happening if November went the other way

This is absolutely the biggest reason, yes.

 

[saintjules]

Have you ever seen a more unappealing main character?.

Without seeing more than the initial trailer?

Judging a book by its cover is more real than ever apparently.

 

[Kotaro]

What was woke about Star Wars Outlaws? I've been playing it a lot and I'm not sure what's woke about it?

The protagonist is a butt ugly androgynous, that’s enough for me to not want to spend money on it

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I truly don’t think woke games will ever truly fully dissipate from the industry because aren’t they usually funded and even encouraged by certain companies? There got to be a reason they keep multiplying like roaches. Make your game un-woke like Stellar Blade or even Space Marine and they’ll write hit pieces on you, snub you from any awards or accolades and pretend you don’t exist.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Threads like these are why I no longer recommend GAF to people looking for a good forum for game discussion. It’s embarrassing.

And don’t take this as me supporting one side or the other. I’m just tired of like a good 35% of the threads here always devolving to this shit. At this point it’s rote and exhausting.

Anyway, to the ignore list it goes. Don’t take offense to my position, please.

100%. I've seen culture war stuff from the top to bottom here. Getting really out of control. I just want to talk games with a nice group of rational an logical people. Like you, I'm not supporting one side or the other. Both extremes are crazy.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So many complaining about this threads .. EviLore should put an "ignore thread" option so people can see only threads they want.



Oh wait.

But that would actually require one to hold themselves accountable. Easier to have big brother police everyone else than one to police themselves.

 

[Inviusx]

The protagonist is a butt ugly androgynous, that’s enough for me to not want to spend money on it

That doesn't seem like a woke choice on behalf of the developer. She's just a fairly average looking female protagonist. You decision is your decision but I don't think Kay Vess is a woke character.

 

[Nickolaidas]

I was expecting a flood of "average woke" purple hair pics in response. GAF failed me

Sorry, I was sleeping.

 

[Nickolaidas]

That doesn't seem like a woke choice on behalf of the developer. She's just a fairly average looking female protagonist. You decision is your decision but I don't think Kay Vess is a woke character.

When the female game character is purposefully uglified compared to its female model, while the male characters are FAR more accurate to their male models, it is frustratingly obvious that this is a conscious, deliberate choice to 'punish the male gaze', aka 'woke'.

I mean, Jesus, dude - we had leaked Capcom documents where they are told to uglify/desexualize their female characters so that they can be spared the wrath of the feminazis.

 

[bundylove]

 

[Skifi28]

GOW Ragnarok. That game is so woke it's not even funny

I finished it recently and don't recall anything that jumped out at me or had me cringing. Genuinely curious what is woke about the game and to such an extend.

 

[rofif]

I finished it recently and don't recall anything that jumped out at me or had me cringing. Genuinely curious what is woke about the game and to such an extend.

Everything. Simply everything.
Weak kratos, angryboda being very annoying and obviously not white and sexy goddes, playing as Atreus, side characters like Thor’s daughter.
Everything is neutered and family friendly. You help everyone rather than murder them. It’s a woke Disney.
Now I get it. Kratos is older and wise but previous game did it way better

 

[Mister Wolf]

When the female game character is purposefully uglified compared to its female model, while the male characters are FAR more accurate to their male models, it is frustratingly obvious that this is a conscious, deliberate choice to 'punish the male gaze', aka 'woke'.

I mean, Jesus, dude - we had leaked Capcom documents where they are told to uglify/desexualize their female characters so that they can be spared the wrath of the feminazis.

Look at all the Star Wars film protagonist:

Han Solo - played by handsome man
Luke Skywalker - played by handsome man
Leia Skywalker - played by pretty woman
Rey Palpatine - played by pretty woman
Anakin Skywalker - played by handsome man
Obi Wan Kenobi - played by handsome man

This continues even with the spin off movies and TV shows.

The fact that they felt the need to uglify the actress/body model any in that game, instead of accentuating her beauty like Hollywood and the modeling industry does using make up, lighting, photoshop, etc is the direct result of feminist ideology. "Male Gaze" bullshit. They hate their primary customer. I'm honesty worried that woman, Bio Jade Adam Granger, in charge of the Prince Of Persia Remake is gonna pull the same bullshit, fucking the sales potential up.