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It (Wukong) didn't even show up. I don't know if that's because it wasn't tracked at all (with not even a mention about it) or if it just didn't chart.
I wasn't calling it a failure at all. I was suggesting that it gained a lot of sales in Asia due to the popularity of "Journey to the West" there. It didn't show up in Europe's GSD or North America's Circana charts. Neither of them mentioned it either which is weird. I suspect due to tracking but the fact that none of them mentioned this is strange.
It (Wukong) didn't even show up. I don't know if that's because it wasn't tracked at all (with not even a mention about it) or if it just didn't chart.
It's a Palworld situation. Circana and GSD have no idea what it sold so can't count the numbers.
The reallity is that WW sales numbers of PS5 and Switch are more closer that you think…
Two Microsoft games but no Helldivers 2 on the PS MAU Engagement chart
This holiday season would have been the perfect time for Switch 2.
How close do you think they are?
But they mentioned it in their reports and even had steam and xbox player engagement charts featuring Palworld at 1st and 3rd respectively.
Europe+Japan sales are about the same MoM and in US, PS5 is just between 80k -150K above MoM, looks like in Asia the Switch is leading, in UK the PS5 is leading and in the rest of the world is unknown, i am pretty sure the PS5 is going to end the year above the Switch with just 1M-1.5M advantage, and taking into consideration the age of the Switch is not that big of an advantage.
Player engagement charts are based on Circana's own data. For digital sales, they need the data from the publisher.
After H1 the results are:
Now let's see a microsoft game on there that was actually created by microsoft, instead of just bought and paid for by them.Two Microsoft games but no Helldivers 2 on the PS MAU Engagement chart
Yes, I understand that, but notice that Wukong did not chart at all in the Circana engagement data whereas palworld did:
Monthly Active User Engagement
Rankings
Units: PS5 > XBS > NSW
Revenue: PS5 > XBS > NSW
Credit to Circana for the data, and Welfare at Install Base for format
I'm sure Sony is very impressed
I know why it didn't chart on one of those.
I'm sure Phil isn't.I'm sure Sony is very impressed
Because not as many people played it as those other 10 games. WuKong could have been the third best selling game of the month, and still not had enough active users to make those lists.
I know why it didn't chart on one of those.
I'm sure Phil isn't.
The PS list I can understand because it's those big juggernauts like Fortnite and Roblox that aren't Steam games but behind Risk of Rain 2 and 7 days to die on steam? Sorry but I'm just not seeing it unless US sales were particularly weak.
Oh right
It's not on Xbox.
, that joke went over my head. I thought you meant the PS list because it includes heavy hitter GaaS games like Fortnite, GTA, Minecraft, Roblox etc that aren't tracked on Steam. 
Jaybe
for the gift 
much appreciated.
It only had 3 days on the market dude. Released 8/27 and data is through 8/31.
Ubi games are known to drop 20%+ after 45-60 days so yeah, I think there's a good portion of people that are waiting for patches + price drop. Also WoM turned around pretty significantly after the first 2 weeks.
You understand they when you buy something it is yours? So none of the bungie guys inc. Marathon are to Sony benefit? With you logic, Concord is also not Sony’s, it is even worse, with likes of stellar blade(eg. Here the IP is owned by ShiftUp), flight sim, rise of ronin, helldivers 2 where publisher only pays 3rd party for development - so none of these were created by Sony or Microsoft. Question you should answer to yourself - who is now benefiting - making money from these games, who is putting money to support them etc. who owns the IP.
So in other words - if MS does something, it's bad, and if Sony does the same, it doesn't count because of reasons. Got it.
Firewalk was acquired by Sony while they were already were developing Concord. So it was probably the most relevant out of my examples to the post I was replying to as it is saying that games were in development before MS acquisition so these are not MS games.
To the rest of your post, how is this different, these games, are published and sponsored by Sony, but at the end of the day are not Sony games, StellarBlade IPis not even owned by Sony, they just opened their wallet to sponsor these. Should we then call over 3000 indie games that were sponsored/co-founded by MS via ID@Xbox Microsoft Games (just without required exclusivity that Sony does)?
Yes, this is exactly the way this forum works. So much easier to enjoy it when you realise that most here hate MS for everything, and love Sony and defend it regardless of what’s being discussed and best of all, some act as Switch doesn’t exist.
Really surprised with low EU sales even combined Xbox + PlayStation it is only 210k units. Might be because of summer holiday season in Europe. 368k combined in USA looks bit better but it is still lower than I would have expected.
I explained to you exactly how it was different. Learn to read.
Make sense, especially if it is missing Germany.
Well 7 days to die has sold over 18 million copies. Not all of that will be on Steam, but I think it's possible that the number of people playing it in the US is quite high.
18 million globally since 2013 though on multiple platforms, right ? I don't think that's particularly great or a sign of it being very active today. Didn't Wukong hit 20M+ in just 2 months? You'd think it would surpass it for activity in a month.
It was in early access then and came out of early access in July 2024. That was the game's biggest ever month for users on Steam and August 2024 was it's 2nd biggest month. So it was pretty active.
