Beastclaw Raider
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Circana (formerly NPD) February 2023: PS5 #1 in Units and Dollars, Switch #2, and Xbox #3 in Units
Woopah
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A few observations:
- PS5 is in beast mode, I expect it to win every month in both units and revenue (except mayyyybe December) and comfortably win the year
- Excellent legs for Dead Space, Ragnarök and the usual sport COD games. You can see how increased PS5 supply is really helping push sales for those games. Forespoken dropped surprisingly little
- Conversely, you can see how the slowing down of Switch hardware is impacting software. This is the lowest amount of Nintendo games in the top 10 / top 20 than I can remember for a long long time. Nintendo not sharing digital (especially with vouchers now back) means that I think they will stop being a major presence on these charts like they used to be.
- I was not expecting Theatrythm to chart at all so its nice its on here.
- The fact we won't get platform specific charts any more is highly disappointing
The original Octopath charted at number 1 for the month just with physical. For OT2 to be on more platforms and include digital but only be at 10 means I don't think it did particularly well. Its okay.
TheGodfather07
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yeah thats what i've been trying to point out but someone got mad because he wanted to believe over 20m. over 20m how? thats all i was asking. unless xbox has magically started selling much better in europe and japan all of a sudden. we know thats not the case. over 20m shipped is possible though. not sold.
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Varteras
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Kvally
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Might have been VG Chartz?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Xbox had a great month in March 22? What came out that month?
Klayzer
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Disagree. Elder Scrolls next installment will reach the top of the charts, imo. I just don't see it reaching Skyrim level of success or sales, without it being available on a Playstation console.
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Mr Moose
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MLB/WWE.
Yoboman
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Kid was fleecing his mum for another console
I was thinking the same thing that kid wanted a PS5 lol
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Weird HiFI rush not charting at all.
THIS is my biggest take away about anything MS related. HiFi Rush not being in the top 20 for January or February is NUTS!
Mr.Phoenix
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And the best is yet to come. Imagine what a lower-priced PS5slim would do after this year.
I have never subscribed to this way of thinking. And I honestly don't get why most in this industry do it. I believe that the success of any platform while dependent on hardware, ultimately boils down to software. Furthermore, I believe software is what its all about.
eg... if you were to ask any platform holder, would you rather sell 20M consoles each year for 5 years, or sell 100M in one year and 5M more over the next 4 years. I believe they will all choose the second option.
Not charting isn't about hardware sales, its about software not being there.
Nautilus
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It should be noted that the competition this month was especially fierce, so this month's number 10 is probably much higher than OT's number 10 of that month, with one of the reasons being the wide supply of PS5, driving a lot of PS5 sales, including old stuff, and strong new releases.
But yeah, being at number 10 means that the game did ok to good. But if Japan is anything to go by, hopefully OT 2 has good legs and net month's NPD should keep OT on the list, hopefully high up.
No, because game pass will now cannibalize a great share of their sales.
When was the last time that a Microsoft published game appeared in the NPD, and at what place ?
FrankWza
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Elden ring related maybe?
Woopah
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PS5 is over 533,000 it has beaten the all time PlayStation record and probably the all time Micorsoft record as well.
Not really, its a new IP on Gamepass whis is $30. There are many factors against it charting
What way of thinking?
Yes software is what matters, but software rises, peaks and declines just like hardware does (though hardware tends to peak first and software peaks later). Switch software has passed its peak while PS5 software is still rising, and that's why we see fewer Nintendo evergreens in the chart in Feb 2023 than we did in Feb 2022 (plus the continuing move towards digital and Nintendo bringing back vouchers).
What was your point about the 2 different options for hardware sales? I'm afraid I don’t understand how it relates to what I said.
Solidsnake_1
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Analysts on Reeee are saying xbox low numbers are because of SX high demand and supply issue regarding SX .
Thirty7ven
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There’s always a convenient excuse.
OmegaSupreme
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Why would anyone buy it? It was "free" on gamepass.
Woopah
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I think the game will have good legs too, but I wish that it had done better at launch. But yes hopefully SE is happy with the results.
Snowdonhoffen
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Probably because Phil said games that are on Gamepass have an increase in sales.
"When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game"
But yeah, I think we all know a lot of people would prefer to pay 10 bucks once and try or beat the game rather buying it, or if you are already paying for the subscription then you don't really have to spend a dime.
Klayzer
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Their games are released on Steam as well. I wouldn't discount the PC fanbase showing up at launch.
Mr.Phoenix
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Ok, notice how when a platform stops putting out massive or impressive monthly hardware numbers, everyone starts talking about how it needs a new-gen iteration.
Or how when software sales in a top ten chart has a poor showing on any specific platform they start talking about how there should be a PS6 or switch 2...etc.
Its almost as if poor software sales or performance is attributed to hardware sales for that month, when in truth software sales is driven more by the install base of that specific platform.
So my point was that, a poor chart showing of software of any specific platform is more reflective of the lack of new `appealing` software on that specific platform than of its hardware proliferation having reached some sort of saturation point. For example, when BOTW2 is released, it will top all charts and break records.
We want the hardware to sell as many units as possible as quickly as possible. In a perfect situation, you would rather have 100M sales in 3 years of a 7-year platform, and wouldn't care if you only had 10M sales for the remaining 4 years. Because what is important is the 100M people you have to sell your games to.
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TheGodfather07
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wel like you said earlier, what does it matter? i was on edge earlier. thats what sobriety does to me. its all good now though. xbox is awesome. PS is awesome. nintendo is awesome. these fries im eating right now are awesome. whats there to fight about?
Mr.Phoenix
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I have never understood this kinda mental gymnastics.Probably because Phil said games that are on Gamepass have an increase in sales.
"When you put a game like Forza Horizon 4 on Game Pass, you instantly have more players of the game, which is actually leading to more sales of the game"
But yeah, I think we all know a lot of people would prefer to pay 10 bucks once and try or beat the game rather buying it, or if you are already paying for the subscription then you don't really have to spend a dime.
No, having more players on the game, IS NOT the same as having more sales, especially when talking about the game pass model. Unless of course the sales they are talking about are GP subscriptions.
Very very very few people, will actually go out and spend $70 on any game if there is an option to play that game for s little as $15. Especially when that $15 gives you access to hundreds of other games in addition to that. So that whole GP lead to more sales has never made sense to me and sounds nonsensical to me. And after over 3 years of gamepass, there is not a single thread of proof showing the sales of a game increasing because it was made available on gamepass.
The game will or may get more exposure, more payers, more traffic, and could even boost GP subs or whatever...but that is not the same as saying it has got more sales.
A more apt description of a game in relation to anything GP, would be more and/or better games results in more gamepass subs.
Unknown?
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Holy crap!!
TheGodfather07
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why are microsoft having supply issues now? theres no reason to.
Beastclaw Raider
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Varteras
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Xbox is ded
Careful. Last time someone said that they bought 100 studios
Beastclaw Raider
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2023 year-to-date, the PlayStation 5 has sold an estimated 1.15 million units, the Nintendo Switch has sold 0.71 million units, and the Xbox Series X|S has sold 0.63 million units.Xbox is ded
Heh, the switch, 6 years old harware, outsold the series x/s even in 2023 in america...
iT's AlL aBoUt GaMePaSs!
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Bernardougf
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It's free on Gamepass, why would it be? People played it and moved on.
Zok310
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They can buy 100 more and still be dead last. The brand is useless, people dont care for it. Its like folks that keep relatives on life support for months when they pretty much dead. MS needs to pull the cord and rebrand their gaming division, forget about xbox.
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given his wording I checked feb 2006 -2011, so the ceiling is just under 606k as the ps3, ps2 and psp summed up to February 2009
xbox best February was 2011(nuts if you think about it) at 535k so it probably tops that, doesn't come close to the insanity of the best wii 753k but it might come quite close to the best ds February 611k
ByWatterson
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Jim Ryan is objectively good at his job.
We know that PS5 is up at least 317% from last year's 128K so for the overall hardware to be up only 68% Xbox Series S/X or Switch had to have a pretty big drop-off from last year because PS5 cost more than Switch & Series S & a lot of these consoles was sold at $559 )
(I need Switch numbers from last year we have PS5 128K & Xbox Series S/X 261K )
(I need Switch numbers from last year we have PS5 128K & Xbox Series S/X 261K )
Fake
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If money is everything thats matters, he is the guy you're looking for.
ByWatterson
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That's literally his job.
ulantan
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He's supposed to be your friend and give you belly rubs.
Imtjnotu
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think we will need your help figuring that out.
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FALLOUT 4:
We like VGChartz now ?
We like VGChartz now.
Also, good job turning Fallout 76 into Fallout 4 Heis, real subtle posting images without the actual article links.
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MasterCornholio
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Microsoft needs to turn some of those Ss into Xs.
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Only since 2017 ? Oh you little liar